User talk:167.191.250.81

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[edit] Please watch your tone

Edits such as this one could be considered a personal attack, and may result in disciplinary action against you, such as a block or a ban. Thank you, Johntex\talk 23:46, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Please do not add commercial links (or links to your own private websites) to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia. See the welcome page to learn more. Thanks. --Nlu (talk) 00:48, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

you are quite welcome. Please refrain from repeating this inane boiler-plate.

[edit] Biographies of Living Persons

Please familiarize yourself with Wikiped hello ia's policies on verifiability and libel as well as the guideline for biographies of living persons. In particular, note the following guideline for material on living persons:

===="Reliable sources" ====
"Any assertion in a biography of a living person that might be defamatory if untrue must be sourced. Without reliable third-party sources, a biography will violate No original research and Verifiability, and could lead to libel claims."
"Information available solely on partisan websites or in obscure newspapers should be handled with caution, and, if derogatory, should not be used at all. Information found in self-published books, newspapers, or websites/blogs should never be used, unless written by the subject ..."

Edits such as the one you made this afternoon fall into this category!--A. B. 21:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Additonal comments on this afternoon's libelous link

[edit] Background

User:167.191.250.81 and User:70.231.240.13 have been identified as possible sockpuppets for each other:

User pages (note the sockpuppet warnings):

Traceroutes on both IP addresses lead to computers in the San Francisco area:

  • Last two traceroute paths for 70.231.240.13:
  1. rback38-g1-0.snfcca.sbcglobal.net
  2. adsl-70-231-240-13.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net
  • Last two paths for 167.191.250.81:
  1. ded2-g1-3-0.snfcca.sbcglobal.net
  2. VIP-Lam-Research-Inc-IAF1089701.cust-rtr.pacbell.net

User talk pages (note previous complaints about both IP addresses):

User contribution pages (note the interest in similar topics and the tendency toward provocative edits even when legal):

[edit] Today's article edit

Today User:167.191.250.81 put a link on the talk page for Victor Ashe (a living person) to a web page making libelous assertions. Note that this article and its talk page were already explicitly lagged with Template:Blp notices. Here is the earlier version before I reverted it.

The linked-to article alleges that Ashe (current U.S. ambassador to Poland/former mayor of Knoxville) had sexual relationships with George W. Bush and 3rd parties. Rumors along these lines have been perpetuated for years by some Ashe foes in Knoxville. They have repeatedly been investigated by the mainstream press (especially in Knoxville) and never found to have any substance. Leola McConnell, the person making the allegations, is a professional dominatrix who has filed the paperwork to run in the Democratic primary for the governorship of Nevada. She appears to be running primarily as a publicity stunt; a Google news search turns up virtually no mention of Ms. McConnell in Nevada newspapers

Likewise a Google news search on "Victor Ashe" AND Bush turns up only 2 sex-related articles -- both from fringe web sites.

[edit] The next step

I request an administrator take this matter up:

  • User sanction: I have removed the link from Ashe's talk page but I think stronger action is probably called with regards to this user. This sort of stuff degrades Wikipedia's credibility much more severely than the standard "eat poop" and "Joe is gay" vandalism we see propagated by kids. It also opens Wikipedia up to damaging publicity (as with the Siegenthaler mess), even legal action. I'm new to Wikipedia, so I leave it to you to decide what to do here.
  • Correcting the record: Per Wikipedia:Libel, "It is Wikipedia policy to delete libellous revisions from the page history." So an administrator needs to remove the earlier talk page article from the history (as well as expunging what I've written after all of these actions have been done).

Thanks for your help.
--A. B. 04:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

167.191.250.81 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RDNS • RBLs • block user • block log) see comments on talk page just above -- A. B. 04:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

Please do not delete warnings and other material meant to remain on this page.

--WillMak050389 18:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

Once again you deleted the warnings on your talk page despite prior warning not to do so.

See Wikipedia:Vandalism#Types of vandalism:

"Talk page vandalism"
"Deleting the comments of other users from article Talk pages, or deleting entire sections thereof, is generally considered vandalism. Removing personal attacks is often considered legitimate, and it is considered acceptable to archive an overly long Talk page to a separate file and then remove the text from the main Talk page. The above does not apply to the user's own Talk page, where users generally are permitted to remove and archive comments at their discretion, except in cases of warnings, which they are generally prohibited from removing, especially where the intention of the removal is to mislead other editors."

--A. B. 18:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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