User talk:149.101.1.126

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Please be careful in the changes you make, in particular in the use of capitalisation. American english and British english use different approaches to capitalisation. What we operate on wiki is a form of consensus, though I personally am annoyed at some of the AE capitalisation rules applied and have fought edit wars over what I see as patently absurd uses of lower cases, as in lowercasing names of electoral systems when they are being used as a proper noun, ludicrous lowercasing of some titles, etc.

Some of the changes you have made are wrong in the context

  1. Anglican is capitalised if you are using the name Anglican and so treating it as a proper noun. But if one is simply using the word to explain, for example, that the Church of Ireland is anglican, lowercase is used. Don't capitalise it if it is being used in the form " . . . the anglican Church of Ireland. There the CofI is the proper noun, anglican merely indicating from which branch of protestantism the CofI comes. Putting it in capitals risks making it look as though the church's name is the Anglican Church of Ireland which as you know it isn't. Lowercasing 'anglican' avoids this confusion.
  2. Similarly unionist is not capitalised, any more than nationalist is capitalised. When referring to a specific party and so used as party of a proper name, eg, Ulster Unionist Party, Democratic Unionist Party, etc it is capitalised. But when referring generally and generically to the broad unionist community, unionist isn't capitalised, anymore than republican, nationalist, loyalist, etc. That is an agreed formula and if you change them unilaterally they will simply be changed back again by people. (Which can be quite puzzling when it happens. I know, I have been there! :-) )
  3. Where people used the gaelic word bean in their name, leave it there. Mairín Bean Uí Dhalaigh never called herself anything but that. That is why it is in that form. Similarly Sinead Bean de Valera chose to be referred to that way, so that is the name form used. In contrast Mary Robinson never used 'bean' in the Irish form of her name, so it would not be inserted. BTW Don't insert a woman's maiden name in as part of a double-barrelled name if they did not use it. Sinead Bean de Valera never used Sinead Flanagan de Valera anymore than Mary Robinson called herself Mary Bourke Robinson. With royal names, for a long list of reasons outlined on the relevant talk pages, we revert past royal consorts to maiden name or maiden title. But we do not do that with commoner names. If someone chose to use their maiden name, we use that. If they chose to use their marital name, we use that. And if (mainly older) women chose to use the gaelic word 'bean' in their name and so follow old gaelic naming, then we use that. If necessary we can set up a redirect to cover a version without 'bean'.

Don't worry if you make the odd mistake. We all do. It does take time to get the hang of it all. (I still make mistakes and I have been on here for ages!) If you have any queries, simply leave a message on my talk page. You have done good work and the more people we have working on the Irish pages the better! (You should have seen the state of some of them before I joined. I, Jim Regan and others have been systematically putting things right.) If you are puzzled about something, contact me or leave a query - "why is . . . like this here? Should it not be like this?" on an article's talk page. You probably will spot errors we all have missed. Or you may find what seems like a mistake but not know that it was debated and explored some time ago and a consensus agreed on how to deal with it. Happy wiki-ing!

FearÉIREANN 23:39 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)

If you don't stop adding in POV additions having continually been asked not to at various IP addresses, breaking links when asked not to either because you don't know what you are doing and have not checked or deliberately and ignoring the rules in wiki as to how to construct an article when asked at various IP addresses to check the rules and follow them, you will be banned. That would be a pity because in some areas you know a lot of stuff but repeated and constant POVing of articles has to stop because it is borderline vandalism. FearÉIREANN 18:49 21 Jun 2003 (UTC)

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