Talk:1400-1500 in fashion
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[edit] Medieval costume
I would like to suggest that we move 1300-1400 in fashion and 1400-1500 in fashion to Medieval costume 1300-1400 and Medieval costume 1400-1500. I am not convinced that "fashion" as we think of it really applies to European clothing in the Middle Ages. We can then fill in the earlier medieval periods as we go.
I would like consensus from other editors working on these articles before making the change.
Can we discuss at Talk:1300-1400 in fashion - PKM 17:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- Consensus so far is to leave as is. - PKM 03:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Other renaming suggestion
Having just categorized this into Cat:15th century, I notice most other articles there following the naming convention "15th century in ...". Ought we not to do likewise? Daniel Case 01:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
All the fashion series spell the dates out. Johnbod 10:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- I am open to suggestions. This whole series follows the format of 1850s in fashion etc., which existed in stub form before I got here, and I simply followed the existing convention. I am not terribly happy with the categorization (history of clothing vs. history of fashion) as it stands either, even though I suggested it as a compromise to end an edit war between two people who both seem to be inactive at the moment (gory details here). I will open a discussion in the Fashion project area. - PKM 18:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Also, after 1500 the articles are on periods of 50 years or less, not full centuries. - PKM 19:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Exactly. It's a convention to use "ORDINAL century" for article titles focusing on a pure 100-year period in the western calendar, as opposed to year ranges where specifics are needed (and also, "1400-1500" is going to get you nitpicking from the people who like to remind you that a) "1400" is technically the last year of the 14th century and not part of the 15th and b) that's a 101-year period, really and c) how can you include 1400 in both centuries?).
Also, I notice the lede of the article specifically refers to European fashion, which accurately reflects the contents therein. To avoid a lack-of-global-perspective problem, why don't we further consider "15th century in European fashion" as the title? Leaves room for something like "15th century in Chinese fashion" if and when it ever comes up. Daniel Case 03:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- Exactly. It's a convention to use "ORDINAL century" for article titles focusing on a pure 100-year period in the western calendar, as opposed to year ranges where specifics are needed (and also, "1400-1500" is going to get you nitpicking from the people who like to remind you that a) "1400" is technically the last year of the 14th century and not part of the 15th and b) that's a 101-year period, really and c) how can you include 1400 in both centuries?).
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- I think you should take this up at the Project level, perhaps after studying the lengthy previous discussions on naming the series. Johnbod 03:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Galleries
I will probably split the galleries (especially women's!) into "Italy" and "Northern Europe" or possibly "headdresses" and everything else. Still thinking. - PKM 21:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Split into Northern and Italy - matches what we did with 1500-1550. - PKM 00:10, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Date
Can anyone date this image: Image:Aveu René 2.jpg? - PKM 19:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
The event was 15th Feb 1469 - not sure on MS - probably soon after. From here:[1] Commons updated. What ***** does these upload descriptions? Everything except the date! Johnbod 03:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Things we need for this article
Describe hose legs becoming attached and front flap that becomes codpiece- Spanish image(s)
- English image(s) - got some
- If anyone knows more about hennins than I do please check my work!
- PKM 20:06, 18 March 2007 (UTC) - Updated PKM 18:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
