Talk:13th Floor Elevators
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[edit] in regards to Janet Joplin
I am not that good at doing citations, but the info about Janis Joplin comes from the Allan Vorda interview with members and friends of the band; specifically Tary Owen. Here is the revelant passage:
AV: It has been rumored and even stated (Rock Movers & Shakers) that Janis Joplin either auditioned and/or sang with the Elevators in June of 1966 and that there was consideration given to her being co-vocalist with Roky Erickson.
TO: That's true. Janis and 1 grew up in Port Arthur and we were really good friends. Jim Langdon also wrote some articles about Janis in an attempt to get her singing career going again. Janis had been singing in California and she had a bout with drug addiction. She came back to Texas to get straightened out and after she did she wanted to sing again. Jim Langdon arranged for her to come back to Austin and play at a place called The 11th Door doing bluesy-folk stuff. It was a benefit show for Teodar Jackson who had been killed. The 11th Door was located where Symphony Square is now by 11th and Red River.
A number of musicians performed such as myself and Powell St. John, but of particular interest was that Janis sang and the Elevators closed the show. Roger Baker did a light show which was done at the Methodist Student Center. It was the first light show in Austin which was during June 1966 and it may have been the first light show in the country, possibly before anything in California.
Janis met the Elevators and there was talk of Janis joining the band, but she got an offer to go back to California and join Big Brother and the Holding Company. So she took that instead of staying with the Elevators.
[edit] Jug
Anyone know exactly what the 'jug' was?
I read somewhere that Roky's trip to the hospital was ordered by the state after a second bust for marijuana rather than for any genuine need. Does anyone have more information about that claim?
What it was, was Tommy Hall blowing into a jug: a small pottery jug at that; with a microphone duck-taped to the side of it. For years I had supposed that Hall had drilled a hole in the bottom, inserted a microphone, and somehow corked the opening, but this was not the case. In any event, it emitted a totally unique sound; one that has never been fully duplicated. "I was really into The Jim Kweskin Jug Band back about 1965," Hall disclosed in a 1996 interview in his San Francisco apartment. "Maria Muldaur was in that group. She did 'Midnight At The Oasis' years later. I said, 'What a cool sound they get, blowing into a jug!' So when I got the band idea rolling, I decided to do the jug thing, but amplify it. I've still got the jug here someplace." www.flagpole.com/Issues/09.23.98/ort.html Also see Clementine Hall interview.
Back in 1967/1968 the penalty for 1 ounce of marijuana(possession) was twenty years in prison in Texas. To avoid this Roky put in an insanity plea. Unfortunately this got him into the Rusk State Mental Hospital where electro-shock therapy was applied to his forehead. Not a good thing to do to someone that had opened up by using LSD hundreds of times prior to 1968.
[edit] 13th Floor Elevators members...
I was stationed at Ft. Juachuca, Arizona in the summer of 1969 and one of my buds was a Tommy Chadwell from Austin Texas that claimed to be the bass player for the group until he was drafted. From what i've recently read on the internet bout the group this guy was pretty right on about his stories with the group, etc. and man was he crazy! jesus! If anyone out there in cyberland knows of this character i'd appreciate any further info... i do have a picture of me and him mopping floors in the latrine and he pretending the mop was a guitar.... whata trip! whata flashback! marv@marvelousmarv.com
thanks! marv mason/ grand canyon arizona
[edit] Categories
Is there actually any reason to categorize this as a pre-punk group? (Other than chronologically, which presumably isn't what the category is all about.) — B.Bryant 23:31, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] John Ike Walton
I have merged the content from the John Ike Walton article into this one. John Ike Walton's VFD debate had 3 delete votes and 2 redirect votes, but the first redirect vote said "...merging anything useful" and the second redirect vote was per the first one. I will leave the people interested in this article to decide what is useful and what is not in the text I merged in. Sjakkalle (Check!) 12:57, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Note - same deal with Benny Thurman. -- Jonel | Speak 15:42, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Clean up this article!
This article is very poorly written, and needs serious help. All of the claims (especially those regarding Erikson's mental health, his treatment, and the claim about marijuana and the band name) are totally unsubstantiated. There is no citation for anything whatsoever. It is jumbled and difficult to read, and the incoherent section at the end is haphazardly tacked on for no apparent reason.
This article, when I came upon it, had more errors (grammar, spelling, punctuation, formatting) than I have ever seen in a Wikipedia article. I've done a basic cleanup, but it's still a mess. Someone please do something. This article is in dire need of help, and should probably be completely re-written. --Muugokszhiion 4 July 2005 03:16 (UTC)
- I am removing the attention notice, as the article is now readable and coherent. -- Reinyday, 9 August 2005
"Stacy is buried in the Center Point, Texas cemetery with an awesome headstone." Using the adjective "awesome" here appears amateurish and juvenile
