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[edit] Your comments on my talk page

Thank you for your concern for my welfare. I feel comfortable with the actions I have taken and am prepared to be judged by Heavenly Father for them. Fortunately for all of us you will not be that judge. --Trödel 01:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

To be frank I really wasn't concerned for you welfare. You have made your bed. I was more curious at what point you will realize what you have become. I also wonder if all your pearls have been cast before swine while you passively enabled and justified. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.127.153.236 (talk • contribs).

Then you are less of a Christian than I gave you credit. I think I have made my position clear. If you want to engage in further conversation feel free to email me. --Trödel 04:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References in Temple garment

You marked the Temple garment article with an {{unreferenced}} tag, and your edit summary asked, "Is all of this religious rumor or are there any references? Is this based on someone's opinion?" You must have missed the "References" section at the bottom of that article; there are six works cited. Are there specific statements in the article that you believe are unsubstantiated? Have you checked the cited works to see if they provide any support? I'll probably revert your changes if you can't be more specific about what you think is unsupported, since there are indeed some references already there. alanyst ^/talk/ 22:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Please check the definitions of "bibliography", "cited", and "references". The bibliography sources appear to be unsubstanciated. Do whatever you would like though. I think that by your tone that you yield absolute control over me when it comes to editing. Cheers!

It sounds like you misunderstand my tone then; I do not presume to control your editing, but desired to ask you for your rationale for adding the tag to an article that had a section titled "References." From your response, it appears that you are questioning the reliability of the sources that are used to support the article, and not (as the {{unreferenced}} tag would suggest) asserting that the article does not cite its sources. Is this correct? If so, what specifically do you contest, or which sources do you think might be unreliable? And what part of the definitions of "bibliography", "cited", and "references" do I seem to be unclear on? I, and no doubt many other editors who have contributed to the article, would be grateful for your efforts to improve it, and if I need to be better educated in scholarly citation, I welcome your constructive feedback. alanyst ^/talk/ 23:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

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