Talk:10 cents

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[edit] Really a DAB page?

Is this article really a DAB? - grubber 19:20, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Better question: is this really an ARTICLE? It's not like "10 cents" is a fixed expression; we don't have an article at "6 feet" either, and we shouldn't. --Tkynerd 19:25, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Haha. It's not much of an article, but the text isnt bad. I just really dont think this page deserves the DAB designation. Suggestions? - grubber 19:35, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, according to the template above, This page is not an article, so I guess the answer is no. If the (non)article were to remain at all, I'd suggest moving it to a more descriptive title like "List of 10 cent coins". In any case, not a dab page. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if this page should be a DAB. But this page and many other similar pages were created as redirects to the U.S. currency page. I felt I had no choice to make some changes. See User:Chochopk/Note and User:Neonumbers/Currency for list. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 22:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it would have been better to {{prod}} them. For phrases that are used as fixed expressions, like 50 Cent, a page is needed, and I would buy that we should have 50 Cents (and possibly even 50 cents) as redirects to that page, but for every denomination of coin? No. Just no. --Tkynerd 23:34, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

An Australian, Canadian, or American could be curious about the composition, dimension, or history about their 10 cent coins, and enter "10 cents" in the search box. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 01:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I would think the word "dollar" or just "dime" (in American case) would come to mind first -- or at least come to mind once a "10 cents" search returned nothing. - grubber 02:22, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I also don't think, in principle, that an encyclopedia user would or should normally expect to find articles about individual coins, the fact that we actually have them notwithstanding. A much more logical starting point would be, e.g., United States coinage, which is also accessible from United States coins, which is a redirect and is how I found it. That article contains links to the individual coin articles. --Tkynerd 06:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I am only moderately against deletion. If the consensus is to delete it, I only ask for two things:

1. Please do it consistently for all denominations listed at my user subpage
2. Please do not turn this into a US-centric redirect. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 13:50, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I favor deletion, but I think both of your points are valid, with the possible exception (as I mentioned above) of denominations that should be redirects to articles like 50 Cent. --Tkynerd 15:21, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm a bit late coming into this, but anyway...

Anyone who hasn't already, have a look at pages like $1, $2, $100 and so on, and see if you want to apply similar formats here. Have a look at User:Chochopk/Note and User:Neonumbers/Currency. I've only done work on the $x pages.

I'm moderately opposed to deletion; I feel that there is sufficient justification for this page to exist. However, if deletion is the result, then like ChoChoPK, I would suggest that all such pages be deleted, and more importantly, that it doesn't become a redirect to a specific country's currency. Neonumbers 09:30, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd be ok with that. Although, I might suggest we move this to 10¢ (redirect from here) in order to make the titles consistent. - grubber 16:14, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

This is getting complicated, because the symbol euro cent isn't necessary ¢. There is no official recommendation and the practical usage varies from place to place. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 06:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

If this page is really intended to be about the coins, then IMO it should be entitled 10-cent coin and be a proper dab page. 10 cents could reasonably be a redirect page to that dab page. How does that sound? And Chochopk, I definitely agree that the "cent" symbol (which I don't even know how to type on a US keyboard!) does not belong in the article titles. --Tkynerd 15:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how to type it either. I copied it from the helper box WP provides at the bottom of the page. I was just suggesting something that was consistent format with "$1". We don't use "$1 bill" however (or "$1 coin" if there is such a thing in some country). Perhaps "10 cents" is the most unambiguous. - grubber 15:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The real stupidity is that $1 redirects to $, which has to be one of the more useless pages I've seen on Wikipedia. IMO $1 should redirect to Dollar bill, as One-dollar bill does, or else it should be its own page rather than a redirect (yes, some countries, such as Canada, use $1 coins rather than $1 bills). In any case, that's no argument for using 10¢ or anything similar here. Unless and until we know that there are 10-cent bills out there, I still say this article should be entitled 10-cent coin because the denomination, not the amount of money (ten pennies also amount to ten cents), is what the article is about. --Tkynerd 16:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Oops, I meant to refer to $2 pages. Yeah $1 should probably be something similar to that. What you say is reasonable, and I'll concede to it. - grubber 16:56, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The reason why $1 redirects to $ is rather technical. There are some code written where $1 means something else int code. It is made a protected redirect to avoid accidental edit. Perhaps some admin or power users can explain that further. There is a 10 Zimbabwean cent bill. When people say dollar or cent, most people think about USD, CAD, or AUD. But this encyclopedia has the duty to be global and encompass everything. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 18:42, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

If we're going to keep this page, then, my preference would be to cut the lead section to this:

10 cents may refer to:

and then list links to the 10-cent coins and bills. That's it. There's no need for the (rather repetitive) discussion we currently have. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages). --Tkynerd 20:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

What about the text that currently exists on this page? It is still encyclopedic, and I don't know where else to put it. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 21:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

It's pretty much covered by my link to cent in the text I suggested. I don't really see much point in pointing out that 10 is 1/10th of 100, and everything else that's there is covered at cent. --Tkynerd 23:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)