Talk:Šatrovački
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[edit] POV tag
The offensive political term "Serbo-Croatian" should be changed with something different. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 18:47, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
- If you don't know how to better formulate it, than let it be as it is. The article is accurate, has no particular POV. First elaborate what's POV about saying that Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, etc. can be categorized as Serbo-Croatian languages, and than slap on the tag. --Dejan Čabrilo 18:55, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
- I found better, but you are forcing your POV. This is POV. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 09:55, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
- What is exactly POV about it? Do make a case for it. Besides, see your talk page, I tried to explain there (Stokavian is a dialect, not a language to start with and is way more POV). Would you like this article to use "Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian and Serbo-Croatian" or does that sound way too ugly even for you? --Dejan Čabrilo 18:36, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
- Serbo-Croatian is very POV if you are reffering to Serbian, Croatian and/or Bosnian using this term. If you call your native language SC, it is not the case with 90% of people which speak Shtokavian based languages. So, this is your POV. And you know that. (Or you have some newer statistics?) --millosh (talk (sr:)) 19:18, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
- "Sthokavian based languages" is very good term to describe similarities between languages. But you don't read what is written and/or you don't think about the construction. Or you want to say that no one of those langauges is Sthokavian based in linguistic sense? --millosh (talk (sr:)) 19:18, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
- What is exactly POV about it? Do make a case for it. Besides, see your talk page, I tried to explain there (Stokavian is a dialect, not a language to start with and is way more POV). Would you like this article to use "Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian and Serbo-Croatian" or does that sound way too ugly even for you? --Dejan Čabrilo 18:36, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
- I found better, but you are forcing your POV. This is POV. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 09:55, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
The article as it stands is totally ridiculous. Call it whatever you will, but Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian are 100% mutually intelligible, which logically makes them one language. If this fact is too offensive for some, than just stop at noting the complete mutual intelligibility that exists between the speakers of these languages. --estavisti 12:20, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Every person introduced into language problems in this area knows that all standard languages are mutualy intelligible; but the term "Serbo-Croatian" (in the sense of all languages and all dialects) is offensive. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 21:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)