Talk:Ösel Tendzin

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Concerning 01-May-2006 edits by 83.70.43.58 (who should get a proper login if ta wants to edit controversial subjects) -- 83.70.43.58 apparently felt that the report of miraculous phenomena amounted to an editorial favoring Tendzin, and wanted to counterbalance it. Sylvain1972 correctly removed the out-and-out editorializing posted by 83.70.43.58, who then removed the report of miraculous phenomena. The result at this point is a more neutral-sounding article. However, I find the fact that *someone* attributes classic "master yogi" phenomena to Tendzin's death, despite the disastrous AIDS saga, quite interesting. Reporting in the article that some people still believe this is worthwhile, I think - but I'd like to see a source attributed, rather than just starting with "...was said to..." Who said it, and on what basis? One does not have to believe the story to be interested in the meta-phenomenon of the way stories cluster around a departed religious figure. Bertport 14:21, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two comments

Two comments about this sentence. "Tendzin admitted that he was responsible and said that Chögyam Trungpa had told him to keep his HIV a secret and that his tantric practice would prevent him passing the HIV infection onto his students."

1) Tendzin never admitted any responsibility. 2) The notion that Trungpa Rinpoche told Tendzin that he was somehow protected from transmitting HIV, comes from Tendzin himself. According to Tendzin, Chogyam Trungpa told him something to this effect privately. No one else heard Trungpa say this or anything of the kind. Trungpa Rinpoche, who was dead when Tendzin made this claim, was well-known for debunking the view that tantric practices made anyone exempt from the laws of cause and effect.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Walter Fordham (talk • contribs) .

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I was present at his cremation in Colorado (which was accompanied by multiple rainbows) and the reports of signs of after-death samadhi were being made by people who had just come from California where his body had lain in state. In fact before his body arrived we were informed by way of a public announcement that in order to move his body to the cremation site a ceremony had to be conducted to end the samadhi. This at least establishes that the reports were not developed subsequent to the period about which they refer. Incidentally, after-death samadhi is not regarded as particularly miraculous in the Tibetan tradition, it just does not accord with contemporary materialistic dogma. (Merlin Cox 01/09/2006)