Talk:Érika Ortiz Rocasolano

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This article was nominated for deletion on 22 Feb. 2007. The result of the discussion was delete & redirect.

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I don't think this is actually true. It has not been reported on any major news site, www.cnn.com, www.bbc.com or www.reuters.com. Fabrication. Norum 07 Feb 2007

It is definately true. Morhange 01:15, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Definitely. It has been reported in all major Spanish news sites. Poor girl. Raystorm 17:17, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

In deference to the circumstances I will only comment that it is Wikipedia policy to use surnames rather than first names in articles. Perhaps this can be attended to in a day or so? LessHeard vanU 22:07, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

This page is a nonsense for an ecyclopedia, it is just a normal person like you and me that died. It happens that she was the sister of the princess, but she had no previous public life before she dead, and there have not been political impact either. Wikinews is a good place for this kind of ephemeral news content. Barcex 11:47, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. It meets notability criteria I believe. Plus she was famous before she died (in fact, it has been argued that it was the public attention -i.e, paparazzi persecution- due to her sisters' status as Princess that drove her to suicide). There has been a social impact, if not political. Raystorm 22:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. She was just the sister of a princess. She was not a princess herself and she kept herself out of public spotlight. It did not have a political impact and not even a social one, except for the morbid factor. All other things are speculation. She's not relevant or notable. --Andromeda 06:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Barcex and Andromeda. It is quite difficult (if possible) to find references about her before her death, even in magazines like the Spanish version of Hello!. I think that few people will remeber who is she in a few weeks. Er Komandante 15:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC) Postdata: her name is "Érika", not "Erika"

What Raystorm states is false, almost nobody knew her. It is true that are a few pictures of here in public events, but AFAIK she has not been prosecuted by paparazzis. If I dead you probably will found pictures of me also. There is nothing to say but 'she was the sister of princess Letizia, and she died', no political nor social impact either but newspapers covering the news. Barcex 10:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It's false

Erika was the Letizia's sister. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stranger23 (talk • contribs) 15:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

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You know, there is an article for Tessy Antony, who was the girlfriend, and is now the wife of Prince Louis of Luxembourg. She's not really that notable either, and I don't think there were as many google news articles on the day they married, yet Erika, 'because she is the younger sister of the Princess of Asturias, recieved many hits, including news sources in the US, and I believe, CNN. I think that solely the fact that her sister was a princess, and the matter in which she died, as well as the attention she recieved post-mortem, and the actual size of this article already, merits a keep. Morhange 17:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

That an article for a non-notable person exits, it doesn't means an article for another has to exist too. The hits were only on the day she died, and she is no longer news even here in Spain. The size of the article doesn't matter if the subject matter is non-notable. And she isn't. --Andromeda 19:47, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't waste yourselves arguing about deletion. You may keep the article separated on its own if that "notability" shit is so important for you. If you decide to not give her her own article, who cares if she was not notable, just insert it and merge it with her "notable" sister princess article and all matters settled.--dalegrett 16:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)