Talk:Zionist Occupation Government

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This theory needs more space. Especially since it's true.  ;-D

If it were true, it wouldn't be a theory, dumbfuck. --TH not logged in
Yeah! Like the theory of evolution. --Joodoo 18:37, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
How did I know someone would say that? The term "theory" has a vastly different meaning in a scientific context than it does in general discourse. A scientific theory is an idea that is all but 100% proven. In general discourse, a theory is something that has little evidence to back it up, or no definitive evidence. In science, an unbacked claim with no definitive proof is called a hypothesis. But like I said, scientific theories do have definitive proof and are virtually undoubtable (evolution is a perfect example). Scientifically speaking, ZOG is a hypothesis (and a bad one at that).
I really doubt GW and Cheney are being controlled by Jewish people.
No, the US government is not controlled by Jewish people, per se. It is they controlled by corporate interests (oil) and Zionist money. See AIPAC and Christian right. --Joodoo 18:53, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

If a group of 5 million American Jews manage to control a country of 300 million people or a planet of 6 billion, doesn't that make everyone else pretty pathetic?

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If a viewpoint is held by an extremely small (or vastly limited) minority, it doesn't belong in Wikipedia (except perhaps in some ancillary article) regardless of whether it's true or not; and regardless of whether you can prove it Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view. The theory should be explained because people may want to know what the term means. But the theory should be presented as wrong and extremist.
see also Wikipedia:Flat earth problem--equitor 03:11, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Edits by 202.74.211.79

The quote is fictitious and even if it had been real, your claim would still have been unsourced. --Denis Diderot 13:50, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)


[edit] World Domination? I've always wanted to dominate the world. Where can I sign up?

Ooooh. A Jewish world conspiracy. I'm Jewish, and I work full-time for minimum wage and study full-time too while my invalid mother lives on the unemployment benefit. Wow. Sucks that everyone else is in on this whole conspiracy thing but me, hey. Kitty 09:15, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

good for you Kitty. keep working hard and take good care of your mom. ---keltik31---




Don't lie to us, we know the truth. —This unsigned comment was added by 82.198.250.74 (talk • contribs) .

You really nailed it, Kitty. It would be funny if it werent so sad. BTW, does this mean that EggNOG is a world wide conspiracy of chickens trying to dominate the world through the Jews??? I think we should find a few friends and start the EggNOG Society. We could make up great names for ouselves like "Imperial Grand Dragon". Heck - we could even burn a giant Star of David on some poor, unsuspecting NAZI's front lawn. Then again, maybe not. After all. NAZI's aren't known for their appreciation of sarcasm orpheuse 12/28/05 12:01 AM

[edit] US-centric

First, this is not a "term" but rather an accusation. Second: this is a good example of a US-centric article. The same accusation was thrown at many other govts: Russian Federation, Ukraine, Poland, UK, etc. ←Humus sapiens ну? 09:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Moving to talk: For others the term Zionist is used more traditionally to mean anyone who supports the idea of a Jewish state. This last meaning refers mostly to non-Jews, as American Zionists, in this sense, vastly outnumber American Jews. Please provide an example of such usage of thie expression. ←Humus sapiens ну? 09:59, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What's up with this?

"It was used by several extremist groups in various countries, such as neo-Nazis in the United States, Pamyat in the Russian Federation, right-wing groups in Poland (see Żydokomuna), and even neo-Nazis in Sweden."

What is so special with swedish nazis that it requires the word "even"?Slipzen 13:53, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

== what ? ==--72.92.115.58 00:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Check the article in wikipedia, encyclopedia britannica, take a history class in a university, etc.etc.etc. Zionism is a real word, used to describe the advocates and proponents of a Jewish homeland, particularly Israel. Theodore Herzl was not a conspiracy theorist, Israelis are not conspiracy theorists, college students are not conspiracy theorists (not all of them), professors are not conspiracy theorists (not all of them). Zionism is a real word, not a conspiracy theory. Where did you get your information or learn to write with such an ability to convey your ideas clearly? I reiterate Zionism is a REAL word accepted and widely used amongst the academic and other communities. Be careful about charging others of being CONSPIRACY THEORISTS. You sound like a mcarthyist or religious fanatic. The word Conspiracy theorist has become a word too conveniently used to detract attention from a persons message by attacking their credibility. In other words, dont listen to the conspiracy theorist or dont check the conspiracy theorist's facts. Conspiracy theorist unfortunately has become a replacement word for communist,anti-christ,militant,terrorist,criminal, and all other words in which timid and unintelligent people have used in persecuting and hindering those that may bear the truth. Listen to other people, check their facts, compare facts objectively with as little bias as can be done. This will lead you to a factual truth beneficial to all those that read your article. Most importantly, be careful of using the word conspiracy theorist as it appears you lack tolerance which if it is true is certainly disgusting and hence makes your article worth a continental. Maybe the documents released under FOIA ascertaining the truth about CIA involvement in Chile or Guatemala delivered justice to those that either requested them or stated their opinion that the CIA had involvement in those aforementioned countries before those documents were released. Just imagine, if you were writing an article about the coups in Guatemala and Chile before the releasing of FOIA documents showing CIA involvement, you might be calling anyone that believed that the CIA was involved CONSPIRACY THEORISTS! This has a bit of an ad hominem in it, however, improve your methodolgy in viewing historical topics because your cynicism and intolerance leaves room for major error in the future which isnt corrected will eventually come back to bite you in the butt. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.32.41.9 (talk • contribs).

DFTT ←Humus sapiens ну? 05:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Don't f$$$$$ talk trash? Lol. --72.92.115.58 00:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] in the clinon administration, over 50% jewish

here is a list of clinton cabinter members. all jewish.

Madeleine Albright Secretary of State

Robert Rubin Secretary of Treasury

William Cohen Secretary of Defense

Dan Glickman Secretary of Agriculture

George Tenet CIA Chief

Samuel Berger Head National Security Council

Evelyn Lieberman Deputy Chief of Staff

Stuart Eizenstat Under Secretary of State

Charlene Barshefsky U.S. Trade Representative

Susan Thomases Aide to First Lady

Janet Reno Attorney General

Joel Klein Assistant Attorney General

Gene Sperling National Economic Council

Ira Magaziner National Health Care

Peter Tarnoff Deputy Secretary of State


Alice Rivlin Ecomomic Advisory

Janet Yellen Chairwoman, National Economic Council

Rahm Emanuel Policy Advisor

Doug Sosnik Counsel to President

Jim Steinberg Deputy to National Security Chief

Jay Footlik Special Liason to the Jewish Community (no other group has a special liason)

Robert Nash Personal Chief

Jane Sherburne President's Lawyer

Mark Penn Asia Expert to NEC

Sandy Kristoff Health Care Chief

Robert Boorstin Communications Aide

Keith Boykin Communications Aide

Jeff Eller Special Assistant to Clinton

Tom Epstein Health Care Adviser

Judith Feder National Security Council


Richard Feinberg Assistant Secretary Veterans

Hershel Gober Food and Drug Administration

Steve Kessler White House Counsel

Ron Klein Assistant Secretary Education

Madeleine Kunin Communications Aide

David Kusnet Dept. AIDS Program

Margaret Hamburg Dir. Press Conferences

Many Grunwald Liason to Jewish Leaders

Karen Adler Dir. State Dept. Policy

Samuel Lewis National Security Council

Stanley Ross National Security Council

Dan Schifter Director Peace Corps.

Eli Segal Deputy Chief of Staff

Alan Greenspan Chairman of Federal Reserve Bank

Robert Weiner Drug Policy Coordinator


Jack Lew Deputy Director Management and Budget

James P. Rubin Under Secretary of State

David Lipton Under Secretary of The Treasury

Lanny P. Breuer Special Counsel to The President

Richard Holbrooke Special Representative to NATO

Kenneth Apfel Chief of Social Security

Joel Klein Deputy Whlte Honse Counsel

Sidney Blumenthal Speclal Advisor to First Lady

David Kessler Chief of Food & Drug Adininistration

Seth Waxman Acting Solicitor General

Mark Penn Presidential Pollster

Dennis Ross Special Middle East Representative


Howard Shapiro - General Counsel for the FBI

Lanny Davis White House Special Counsel

Sally Katzen Secretary of Management and Budget

Kathleen Koch Heads FBI Equal Opportunity Office

John Podesta Deputy Chief of Staff

Alan Blinder Vice Chairman of Federal Reserve

Janet Yellen Heads Council of Economic Advisors —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Keltik31 (talk • contribs) 23:57, October 4, 2006.

[edit] Potential references

  • Gene Fadness. "Editorial; Will lessons have been learned from long Randy Weaver saga?", Idaho Falls Post Register, 1993-07-11. Retrieved on 2006-11-04. - "Perhaps, though doubtful, the Weavers of the world will realize that the Zionist occupation government isn't so bad after all. While it made disastrous miscalculations, that same system allowed a full, fair and self-critical hearing to determine that Harris, who fired the bullet that killed Degan, should be set free with Weaver not far behind."
  • "Exploring the Faces of Hate", The Sunday Oregonian, 1995-07-23. Retrieved on 2006-11-04. - "Macdonald, whose real name is William Pierce, offers a blueprint for the overthrow of the Zionist Occupation Government and the establishment of the Aryan state."
  • Neil Modie. "Weaver's Beliefs at Issue", Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 1993-04-20. Retrieved on 2006-11-04. - "Fadeley, in his testimony, alluded to what prosecutors say was Weaver's belief in an Armageddon in which he would do battle with agents of the federal government, which the defendant called the Zionist Occupation Government."
  • Terry Greene. "The Lost Boy; Jimmy Miller never had much, until he met the skinheads", Phoenix New Times, 1990-10-10. Retrieved on 2006-11-04. - "Jimmy says he was "taught" that Jews control the United States government, which he calls "ZOG," for "Zionist Occupation Government." Says Jimmy, "I've been taught that Jews privately own the Federal Reserve. I've seen paperwork on it." He won't say where he got the paperwork, but thoughts like that are contained in Tom Metzger's White Aryan Resistance newspaper, widely distributed in Arizona."

[edit] "zionist" & external link deletion

tried to sort out real & immagined zionists. occurs to me now a simple {for|...} might be more appropriate/less potentialy controvestional. someone else's problem. external link i removed (see below) wasn't about 'zog', but (alleged or otherwise) 'jewish'/'israeli' lobbies, an altogether different can of worms.

ps: for the sake of yr own sanity, don't look for sources → bsnowball 17:11, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

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