Talk:Zürich German

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An effect contrary to the enrichment of the dialect by foreign influences comes from the school system, which teaches standard German not as a new language, but merely as a different form of pronunciation and with a modified vocabulary, this leads to a confusion of the two languages. In combination with predominantly standard German television, this leads to a change in Swiss German: the Zurich German word for "butter", "Anke", has been almost completely replaced by the German word "Butter". It is often observed that small children talk standard German when playing alone, imitating the world of television. Another example is the apparition of new time-forms (Swiss German knows only present tense, which is also used for the future, and a composite past tense).

it seems POV to describe Turkish, Italian and Slavic influences as "enrichment", but influences of Standard German as "contrary to enrichment". Also, no evidence is given that anke has indeed been "almost completely replaced", this seem like OR, or a subjective impression. Nor is evidence cited for the "apparition of new time forms". To the best of my knowledge, Z German has as little of a future or imperfect tense as always. dab (ᛏ) 11:56, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

This is not subjective. If I had more time, I could mention a lot of references! Of course, there is an influence from every migrant language (there are more than 100 spoken in Zurich), but only one is everywhere: Newspaper, telly, radio, school, when you speak with foreigners, ..... This is a significativ and strong influence. Not only as mentioned in vocabulary, but also in syntax. I think, this section is not a POV. --Eruedin 13:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)