Talk:Younger Than Yesterday
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[edit] Overshadowing
I'm more than a little curious about why that second paragraph about the release being "overshadowed" by the Beatles/Stones/Beach Boys "current releases" was reinserted.
Release date of Younger Than Yesterday -- February 6, 1967
Previous Beatles release, per discography -- Revolver, August 8, 1966 Subsequent Beatles release, per discography -- Sgt Pepper, June 2, 1967
Previous Beach Boys releases, per discography -- Pet Sounds, May 16, 1966, and Best Of, July 11, 1966 Subsequent Beach Boys releases, per discography -- Best of 2, July 24, 1967, and Smiley Smile, September 11, 1967
There were two contemporaneous Rolling Stones LPs, but that alone doesn't justified the comment. Without meaning to be excessively contentious, it strikes me as being speculation without any factual foundation. Monicasdude 07:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Who said I was talking about albums necessarily? "Good Vibrations" had just left the Top 10 and everyone was talking about Smile at the time (which would end up not coming out). The Stones had just released Bewteen The Buttons which (in the US) housed the #1 hit "Ruby Tuesday" that January. And The Beatles made their comeback with their new look that February with "Strawberry Fields Forever"/"Penny Lane" and the eye-catching promo films for both, with Pepper about to follow. In addition, that is also claimed in the liner notes for Younger Than Yesterday. Which I will now cite. That's sufficient proof. PetSounds 13:03, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
That isn't much proof. First of all, David Fricke has a reputation among other rock critics as being a hack. There's no nice way to say it and many critics have been less kind about it (Tim Riley, Jim Derogatis, Jimmy Guterman, Clinton Heylin, Bill no-relation-to-the-bassist Wyman, etc.) He writes watered down histories for reissue liner notes by the dozen and often makes mistakes, vague statements, and awkward assumptions. Second, so people didn't buy or notice "Younger Than Yesterday" because they were listening to a few other records? Or because of some records that hadn't come out yet? That's like saying "Cinderella Man" tanked at the box office because everyone was still flocking to see "Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith," and then didn't see anything else because of "Spiderman 3." The Byrds were in commercial decline, simple as that. Critics at the time DID notice. The concept of rock critics was still in its infancy, but the ones who were around and working like Greil Marcus and Paul Williams did praise this album. Neglected? Yes. Overshadowed? The word's not a good fit.
[edit] Reissue liner notes
The recent change of the text from:
- A misreporting of the release date as July 1967 may explain Rolling Stone writer David Fricke's mistaken explanation of the the relatively poor sales in the booklet that accompanied the 1996 CD box set. He suggests that the album's release "was obscured by the windfall of epochal rock albums that spring and summer". In practice, however, the competing albums that he cites were released too late to materially affect sales of Younger than Yesterday.
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- In its CD liner notes, Rolling Stone writer David Fricke suggests that the album's release "was obscured by the windfall of epochal rock albums that spring and summer", citing current and about-to-be-released albums by The Beatles, Jefferson Airplane and The Doors.
appears to lose the point that Fricke may have misremembered/been misinformed about the release date (not, that he cited the error in the notes). As I understand it, Fricke's argument is that the other big releases overshadowed the Byrds' new album and diminished its anticipated sales. In practice, however, the overshadowing releases came after Younger Than Yesterday in a market that is noted for its immediacy. If we keep Fricke's claim (and I think that we should), it seems appropriate to state that it may be in error. —Theo (Talk) 08:10, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
