Talk:Yehuda Ashlag

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[edit] prognostication

Ashlag’s reinterpretation of kabbalah is gaining adherents in Israel, and inspires further attempts to interpret it for a new generation. His potent combination of mystical transformation and political radicalism may still have a profound effect on Jewish thinking.

I found the above a likeable and informative paragraph, and would like to see an attempt at rewording it. ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸ 5 July 2005 23:58 (UTC)

A better idea would be to find some sort of encyclopedic citation citing this; otherwise it just sounds like highly POV wishful thinking on the part of Ashlag followers. Jayjg ^(talk) 6 July 2005 03:10 (UTC)

Regarding the entry of Michael Laitman, it is well-founded information. Laitman teaches from Ashlag's source texts daily at the Bnei Baruch Kabbalah Education and Research Institute. The lessons are viewable live daily at 22:00EST on http://www.kab.tv, and can be found at the Bnei Baruch Media Archive located at http://www.kabbalahmedia.info, which includes video and audio records of Laitman's daily lessons and commentaries of Yehuda Ashlag's source texts.

[edit] Berg

Shouldn't any mention of Berg as a "teacher of kabbalah" be labeled "controversial"? The material taught in the Centre isn't particularly similar to Qabbalah and other claimants to the title of Ashlagian Qabbalah in particular. Just the notion of teaching non-Jews alone places them into the "contraversial" camp. micha 17:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Violations

This article violates NPOV. All of the outside links connect to Bnei Baruch, an organization whose article on its founder Michael Laitman and the organization itself were deleted for NPOV, Notability, Wikipedia is not a Soapbox etc.

There is even an editor who has made a comment that promotes the Bnei Baruch organization. All of the Notes in the note section quote (promote) Bnei Baruch!!

Shiva-brahma 20:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Kabala is an important topic, and Ashlag's authoritative decision to shift from a secretive to an open movement is remarkable. By extension, Ashlag's students (and their students' students) are noteworthy. They are all part of a historic event. I appreciate the info about them, and their presence here on Wikipedia helps ensure accuracy and authenticity about the movement.

If you feel there are points-of-view that arent being included, please add them, rather than delete what is already here. --Haldrik 23:26, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I also feel Berg should be identified as a student of Brandwein here. Because it's a fact. Controversy, misunderstanding, disagreement and excess are all consequences of Ashlag's decision for Kabala to go public. I feel these kinds of things deserve to be accurately (and fairly) documented. --Haldrik 23:53, 24 August 2006 (UTC)