User talk:Yann
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Hello Yann, and welcome to Wikipedia! I'm glad you're interested in non-violence related topics; I talked one of my friends into starting non-violent resistance, but he hasn't had a lot of time to work on it. If you have any questions, just consult Wikipedia:Help and the Wikipedia:FAQs. If you're still stuck, ask a questionat the Wikipedia:Village pump. Have fun! -- Stephen Gilbert 21:13 Jan 20, 2003 (UTC)
[edit] Simple English
Hi, I noticed you have contributed to the Simple English Wikipedia in the past. I am trying to revive it a bit as it hasn't been edited very much lately, so this is just a reminder that it's still there and you are very welcome to come and help! Yours views on what to call the "village pump" are also requested. See [1]. Thanks. Angela 11:57, 20 Aug 2003 (UTC)
[edit] Press Release
I see you contributed to the creation of the press release. Might you be willing to follow these steps, and send off the press release? -- user:zanimum
[edit] Nonviolence and Wikipedia
Hi Yann,
Nice to see someone else doing work on nonviolence on Wikipedia (mainly in French, I suspect). http://www.non-nonviolence.org looks fantastic, even through the Google translator ;-)
Would you like to have a look at List of nonviolent leaders and thinkers and see who I've left out? I'd really like someone with some knowledge of nonviolence to check additions for relevance, as lists seem to attract some pretty weird edits.
Would also be great if a French speaker did some work on the english version of Lanza del Vasto, as there is not much information about him in English, and I want to know more!
[edit] Wikipedia:Featured pictures
Yann, there is an established procedure for adding images to Wikipedia:Featured pictures and Wikipedia:Featured pictures visible. I have taken the liberty to move your recent addition to candidates page. - Gaz 12:24, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Aloe picture
Salut! Your picture at aloe is very impressive, but I think it's the century plant, about which the "aloe" article says, "The plant called American aloe, Agave americana, belongs to a different family, Agavaceae." At least it looks exactly like the agaves that grow where I live, in New Mexico, and it doesn't look like the other aloes on that page. So maybe it belongs at the century plant article--or if not, maybe the caption needs to be changed. What do you think? --JerryFriedman 23:54, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Aloe picture
Merci pour la réponse. J'essayerai trouver un botaniste qui puisse nous dire si le photo montre un Aloe ou un Agave. If that makes any sense. --JerryFriedman 19:37, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks again. I finally got around to moving it to Agave. —JerryFriedman 18:48, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Untaggued Images
Yann, I have put a list of the images without cp tags at User:Yann/Untaggued Images.
Have a lot of fun with them, there is only 48655 such ones (at 22/08/2004).
- -- Looxix 23:53, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] WikiSource
Thanks for your comments:
"Well, I think it would be best to improve the software, rather that to set up a separate Wikisource for each language. But that is technically much more difficult."
- If the software is improved enough so that each language can work in its own environment - what is the big difference between that and separate language domains? It really comes down to the same thing.
- In any case, even if the software could be improved in ways specific to WikiSource, I think it would be dangerous (and unnecessary) to have it grow in ways that are not compatible with the other wikimedia projects.
"I think that the aim of actual Wikisource should be broadened to images and sounds, beside texts, like the project m:Wikimedia_Commons."
- I agree completely about this. I think some people have added at least a small amount of these things. The setup certainly allows for it.
Dovi 11:46, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)
Hi Yann. Thanks for your comment at the Wikisource proposal. Is there any place it is possible to read about the work being done on multilingual interface? Or someone specific who can be contacted for information? Thanks! Dovi 03:55, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Gujarati language
The interwiki links you added seem invalid, there is no article at hi and gu about the Gujaarati language. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 17:21, 2004 Sep 12 (UTC)
- Yes, corrected now. Thanks. Yann 17:23, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
[edit] फ़्रांसीसी vs फ़्राँसीसी
So like I said on the Talk:Hindi page, I'm sure that फ़्रांसीसी is correct. I double checked to make sure before I made the edit, even.
But it occured to me that, according to the rules of Devanagari as I learned them here in America, the word that you are typing would be pronounced differently than the word that I am typing. That is, फ़्राँसीसी would be pronounced frããsiisii (with a nasalized vowel), whereas फ़्रांसीसी would be pronounced fraansiisii (with a nasal consonant conjunct). And the then the reason that you find the pronunciation of the word "french" with the nasalized vowel in your french-hindi dictionary is because that pronunciation is closer to the french word français which has a nasalized vowel, and in my english dictionary, I find the pronunciation with the nasal consonant. This could be a reasonable explanation of why I find one spelling and you find another.
By the way, how does your french-hindi dictionary spell the words panjabii? or english? with a nasalized vowel or with the nasal consonant? Mine spells both of those with the nasal consonant = nasal conjunct = bindu with no candra. -Lethe | Talk
[edit] "Untagged images" page
Greetings! I hope you don't mind, but I've taken the liberty of making several substantial changes to User:Yann/Untagged Images. My hope is that these changes will encourage people to use the page and tag more images. Let me know what you think. (Hope I wasn't too bold.) – Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 17:50, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)
I still have major problems with the following advice: "Remember that all images are licensed under the GFDL by default; if someone created an image and voluntarily uploaded it to Wikipedia, it's safe to tag it as {{GFDL}}. (Obviously this does not apply if the uploader does not own the copyright.)" It is surely not ever safe to apply a GFDL to an image the antecedents of which are not known to the tagger. The whole concept of "by default" is nonsense in the context of people uploading images without any consideration to copyright. I urge you urgently to change this bad advice ... for the time being, I;ve scored thru it, so serious do I think the problem is.Dealt with. --Tagishsimon (talk)
[edit] Untagged Images
Can you tell me how often the Untagged Images lists are updated or, what the current state of this project is. A sample of 1 shows it was generated on the 26th August. There is now a small posse of wikipedeans using the lists and, ideally, we'd be working from fairly current lists. Any info you could let me have would be most appreciated. --Tagishsimon (talk)
- Thanks Yann. I left a message for Looxix so I hope he/she will answer sometime. Thanks for starting the untagged images project, and best wishes for the French Wikipedia. --Tagishsimon (talk)
[edit] Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
- Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
- Multi-Licensing Guide
- Free the Rambot Articles Project
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
- Option 1
- I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
- {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}
OR
- Option 2
- I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
- {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)
[edit] Debian.jpg
I don't know anything about that image. As I told user:Quadell: As I said in the summary, I was moving it from its place offsite (which at the time was meta.wikipedia.org--used to be, you had to upload to meta and link from there; there was no upload for en.wiki for awhile). Anyway, no, I don't think there was an upload summary on meta either; I added them to en.wiki whenever there were. I can tell you it's certainly been copyrighted; it's rather unthinkable that a corporate logo wouldn't have been, so the 'pedia should claim fair use and move on IMO. Koyaanis Qatsi 15:13, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Untagged Images
All of the images found at Genesis'88 are copyrighted by User:Wayne_Anthony. All of said images were originally created by him. You can read the history behind them at Genesis'88. I'm gonna go ahead and speak up for him (since the guy is virtually unreachable these days)and say everything is GFDL. Alkivar 00:32, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Could you suggest a proper image tag for photos such as [Image:Millar-BigBen.jpg] at Big Ben (horse). I placed a number of similar ones from the Government of Canada such as Victor Davis but can't seem to find a proper tag. Thanks. JillandJack 17:13, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Paris-commune.jpg
What software did you use to make Image:Paris-commune.jpg? Thanks. 119 06:40, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Copyright question on Gandhi's photo
You tagged it as a copyvio. I have a question on copyrights ... how long does a copyright extend? Clearly, the picture was taken during Gandhi's lifetime, so it should be before 1948. It is almost 57 years from that time. How long does copyright on images extend? So far as I know, after a certain time period, it becomes public domain. That's why we can use Shakespear's plays without violating its copyright. Or is it 50-60 years after the death of the artist/photographer etc? Would anyone clarify this please? Thanks --Ragib 17:21, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Cloak
Hi, I would like to get a cloak. Can you tell at what time and which channel can I see you ? Thanks. Yann 20:54, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
- Drop me a note on #wikipedia (/msg FenFen or FennecFoxen). Then proceed to Wikipedia:IRC_cloak_verifications. -Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 03:17, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Ruskin.jpg has been listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:Ruskin.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. |
Thuresson 17:27, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] extrait de la page de Notafish
[edit] blocage
- mon problème
J'ai été bloqué sur la wikipédia francophone. Je suis 193.51.93.89 . Lorsque je veux modifier, je ne peux pas, et il y a marqué que je dois contacter un administrateur. Mais comme je suis bloqué je ne peux pas contacter d'administrateur pour prendre ma défense et demander mon déblocage : on se rend alors compte de l'absurdité injuste qu'implique un blocage. Toutefois en cherchant longuement parmi les administrateurs de la wikipédia francophone quelqu'un qui avait des pages dans d'autres wikipédia que la wikipédia francophone, j'ai fini par te trouver.
- le conflit
Le conflit est à propos de l'article fr:Émeutes de 2005 dans les banlieues françaises. J'y ai mis des informations sur les manifestations à venir et sur des propos célèbres de Lilian Thuram. [2] . Toutes ces informations ont été supprimées par des administrateurs qui les jugent non neutres. Pourtant ces informations sont vraies.
Au sujet des manifestations, j'ai informé d'une manif de gauche, mais j'ai aussi informé de manifestations d'extrême droite. On m'accuse de vouloir faire de la promotion politique mais cela est profondément stupide car je ne peux pas être à la fois d'extrême droite et de gauche.
Au sujet des propos de Lilian Thuram, il s'agit là de propos célèbres qui ont été écrits dans les journaux et entendus à la radio.
- sources
Dans les deux cas on a exigé que je mentionne des sources, ce qui est un scandale. En effet ça ne devrait pas être une obligation de mentionner des sources sur wikipédia : wikipédia se veut d'être une source et non de répéter des sources. L'intérêt de Wikipédia c'est que comme elle regroupe les informations de tous, elle peut dépasser quantitativement n'importe quel journal ou encyclopédie. Exiger des sources fait perdre son intérêt à wikipédia.
Mais admettons qu'il faille mentionner des sources :
D'abord je pense que quelqu'un qui veut censurer les informations devrait faire l'effort au préalable de faire des recherches. Ensuite je constate que beaucoup d'informations figurent dans l'article fr:Émeutes de 2005 dans les banlieues françaises sans que soient mentionnées leurs sources. Je pose la question : pourquoi certaines informations nécessitent des sources et d'autres pas ?
Pire. Après qu'on ait exigé que je mentionne des sources, j'ai cédé et j'ai pris la peine de mentionner des sources. Malgré ça mes informations ont de nouveau été retirées. Tel un caprice, on m'a demandé de préciser encore les sources. J'ai voulu les préciser un peu plus mais j'ai été bloqué, comme si on voulait m'empêcher de préciser les sources.
- conclusion
Les administrateurs qui m'ont bloquée et qui ont censuré les informations que j'ai mises sont des gens partiaux et dangereux au bon développement de wikipédia. Je demande leur révocation.
J'ai subi leur partialité. Je demande à être débloqué dans les plus brefs délais.
Merci de m'avoir lu. Merci d'une réponse rapide, claire et responsable.
- Post-Scriptum
Je dois partir travailler : je ne serais pas sur wikipédia avant ce soir.
- Merci de lire les pages suivantes : Citez vos sources et Wikipédia:Ce que Wikipédia n'est pas.
- Donc 1)les demandes du/des administrateurs qui ont pris sur eux de vous bloquer ne sont pas des chimères, mais une application des règles. 2) Ils vous avaient avertis très clairement de ce qui se passerait si vous continuiez.
- Je respecterai donc leur décision. N'hésitez pas à utiliser votre semaine de blocage pour parcourir les pages concernant la façon dont on doit éditer sur Wikipédia. Cordialement,notafish }<';> 15:49, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
- mes derniers propos
Donc si j'ai bien compris, on est passioné par le fait qu'il y ait eu 54 voitures brûlées tel jour et non pas 55, mais les propos chocs d'un membre du Haut Conseil de l'Intégration, on s'en fout. C'est brillant...
J'ai lu sur la page qui explique qu'il faut citer les sources : Quand des sources extérieures sont consultées pendant l'écriture ou au cours de la vérification d'un article, il apparaît indispensable de fournir une liste de références, livres, articles, ou sites internet. 1/Je prends note du fait que les sources ne doivent être mentionnées seulement lorsque les sources extérieures sont consultées pendant l'écriture ou au cours de la vérification d'un article (il n'est donc pas systématique de devoir mentionner des sources, heureusement pour wikipédia). 2/De toute façon j'ai mentionné mes sources, alors je ne comprends pas ce qu'on me reproche.
J'ai aussi lu ce que wikipédia n'est pas, et je me suis particulièrement intéressé à la partie "ne pas faire de promotion", puisque d'après ce que j'ai compris, c'est ce qu'on me reproche. J'y lis : Mais un article peut, bien sûr, rapporter objectivement ce que disent les promoteurs d'un sujet. L'article regorge de citations de Sarkozy et Cie, par contre, Lilian Thuram et les manifestations (qu'elles soient d'extrême droite ou de gauche) n'ont même pas le droit à 5 lignes.
J'insiste, il y a partialité de la part des administrateurs.
Au fait, puisque j'ai l'obligation de mentionner plus de sources mais que je ne peux pas mentionner plus de sources sur la wikipédia francophone, je vais mentionner deux sources supplémentaires ici même : une au sujet de Thuram et une au sujet de la manifestation.
193.51.93.89 18:05, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] et toi, qu'en penses-tu ?
[edit] Semi-protection
I've left this message on your Meta page as well, but I wanted to make sure you got this. At Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy, a couple users and myself are attempting to gather consensus about a possible change in editing. So as not to keep the community out of the loop, we've been posting to user talk pages, which seems to have worked. If you can add your thoughts to the talk page, it would be greatly appreciated. We've gone over a few issues, ranging from perception of anti-wiki to time limits, and recycling pagemove code, so you might want to check out #Rehashing to get up to speed. Thanks in advance, Mysekurity(have you seen this?) 21:58, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] WikiProject Hinduism
Hi Yann, I noticed that you have an interest in Gandhi and India and saw some of your contributions. You may wish to join the Hinduism WikiProject. Thanks DaGizzaChat © 20:47, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Lakshmi.jpg
I have doubts about GFDL license. You wrote it was 'scanned by you' - scanning does not make you author, so the question is: what is source license? A.J. 14:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Invitation and Recommendations for writing articles on Hindi Wikipedia
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Whence,
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starting parenthesis, then English name in Roman script, in-page interwiki-linked to English wiki ff. by semicolon ((अंग्रेज़ी : [[:en:Apollo]];)
- 3.
The native name(s) if applicable in the italicized native script, preferably followed either by its italicized approximate Hindi pronunciation or non-italicized
phonological transcriptionwithin / /, ff. by closed parenthesis (यूनानी : ''Aπollων अपोल्लोन''))
- 4.
the rest of the definition or introduction (प्राचीन [[यूनानी धर्म]] (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन [[रोमन धर्म]] के सर्वोच्च देवता थे ।)
For country names, only the standard short form of the name is needed in the first line. If there is a common name for a difficult word in Hindustani, also mention it. Whence: अपोलो (अंग्रेज़ी : en:Apollo; यूनानी : Aπollων अपोल्लोन) प्राचीन यूनानी धर्म (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन रोमन धर्म के सर्वोच्च देवता थे । If you don't give the interwiki English/another language link (which would be deemed to be the default reference), then you MUST provide an appropriate reference.- Please leave no article without an appropriate category. See the list of created categories here; you can also make a new category (pref. in Hindi). Please leave no article without at least ONE off page (like en:) interwiki link. E.g., the user can check the article name (say Apollo) on the finally redirected English page and append to the Hindi article (
[[en:Appolo]])
). These interlanguage links will help a bot to update all interwiki links for that article in all wikipedias. The category and the aforementioned link should be typed at the end of the article. If the article is very small, mention it as a stub/substub.- Use of templates is welcome. See the list of templates here. If creating a template, name it pref. in Hindi.
- Use पूर्णविराम ( । ) instead of a period (.) for ending statements. The पूर्णविराम, semicolon, colon and dash (but not comma) must come after one space after the word to prevent ambiguity. Use the international form of the Hindu-Arabic numerals (1,2,3 instead of १,२,३), as used by the Constitution and the Government of India (even for Hindi). There is no need to use the हलन्त at the end of Sanskrit words wherever it occurs. Hence, prefer: संसद over संसद्; अथर्वन over अथर्वन्. Use the proper quotation marks “” from the Insert toolbox, not "". Write dates as 2 मई 2006 (ईसवी or ईसापूर्व). Write time as 3:45 pm. Separate common suffix-words like शास्त्र, विज्ञान, ज्ञान with a hyphen. Thus: रसायन-शास्त्र. For most others, leave both the words of the noun-cluster free. Combine them into one word only if it is very common to do so. Thus: सामवेद.
- The use of ज़ for the en:voiced alveolar fricative (/z/, as in zoo, rose) is fundamentally wrong. Its nearest counterpart is the en:voiceless alveolar fricative /s/ (as in sea), and not Hindi ज (en:voiced palatal plosive). Hence, it is suggested and recommended that for the sound /z/, whether it comes in English (etc.) spellings (z) for while pronunciation otherwise, should be transcribed as स़ (स with a dot below, available in the Insert toolbox). Hence: Reason रीस़न, not रीज़न ; Roses रोस़ेस़, not रोज़ेज़. But common Hindi words borrowed from Persian/Arabic (so-called Urdu words) are allowed to continue with ज़ spelling. Thus: ज़रा, नज़र, तर्ज़. The en:voiced postalveolar fricative (/ʒ/ as in treasure), inexistent in Hindi, can similarly be transcribed with श़. Thus: treasure ट्रॅश़र. The nukta (dot) available in the Insert toolbox can be combined with various consonants to suggest a more exact phonetic devanagari rendering of foreign sounds. E.g., since phonetically, English Think and this are not equal to थिंक and दिस, a better transcription could be थ़िंक and द़िस. Please take care of the dot below in so-called Urdu words, otherwise the Hindi spelling is deemed incorrect.
- For the following English vowels met, mate, mat, transcribe as मॅट (short vowel), मेट (not मेइट), मैट (not मॅट, as popular in Marathi). However in contemporary Hindi and here, it is acceptable to use ए instead of ऍ. Thus: अमेरिका is more popular than अमॅरिका. For cot, coat, caught, transcribe as कॉट, कोट, कॉट (not कौट). Transcribe English /t/ and /d/ as ट and ड.
- Use half-न before त, थ, द, ध, न, instead of anuswaar अं. Use half-म before प, फ, ब, भ, म. Use the anuswaar before all the rest of the consonants (not half-ङ, ञ, ण). If the मात्रा is not above the alphabet, use chandra-bindu, but only for nasalization. Thus: अन्दर, not अंदर ; अन्त, not अंत ; हिन्दी, not हिंदी ; सम्भव, not संभव ; पंचमी, not पञ्चमी ; अंडा, not अण्डा ; कंठ, not कण्ठ ; लैंड, not लैण्ड ; आँख, not आंख. However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here; the prec. are just recommendations.
- When proceded by another vowel, use the pure vowels instead of य (unless the य is clearly articulated while pronouncing). Thus : जाएँ, not जायें (not जावें) ; आएगा, not आयेगा . However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here.
- Please pay careful attention to the masculine/feminine gender (and singular/plural) in adjectives and verbs, else the sentence becomes ungrammatical.
Thank you,
Cygnus_hansa 00:01, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A panel about wikipedia - sister projects
Hi, I am assembling a panel of 5 that will talk about wikipedia in general. I am planing of making of covering it in 5 topics:
- Wikimedia Foundation
- Mediawiki
- Copyrights
- General info
- Sister projects
The panel will be a part of a more general Internet conferance that will be held 21-23 December 2006 in Ankara, Turkey.
I am looking for a person to cover the "sister projects" topic. And I was told that you would be an approporate person for the job.