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[edit] first talk

Hi Raul - this looks cool - do you have ideas about how to arrange the material, ie themes? I think that would be a major consideration. Mark Richards 18:43, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

This is actually a surprisingly difficult question to answer. The best thing we can do is wait until we've finish compiling the list before we make any final decisions about the arrangement. I've been told not to go with alphabetical (I'm not sure how negotiable that is). That leaves chronological, or geographical, or by "topic" (battles, people, 'etc). Or maybe there's something I haven't thought of. But that's a step ahead of where we are now. →Raul654 21:34, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)

I guess initially I thought that to do it chronologically by theatre would probably be the best thing, although you would still need some cross cutting articles including an overall summary, a timeline etc. Howard Zinn really made me think about the things that we do when we organise material though - it would be great to do some articles along the lines of A People's History as well as the actual war stuff. Mark Richards 21:45, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Copying into one long article

Don't think that's a good idea (problems: edit conflicts, out-of-dateness, size). Why copyedit the articles and at the last minute copy&paste them into an Openoffice file like they did with the german Wikireaders? -- stw (Talk) 22:30, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I understand that this approach will cause problems. However, (a) all the wikilinks have to be removed, and (b) GFDL-incompatible images have to be purged. We can't do this on the original articles, so we have to operate on a copy. I don't see out of dateness being a problem, because all of the articles should be fairly stable. →Raul654 22:35, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)
Also, IMHO, it's too much to ask one person to do all of that (copying, de-linking, purging images) by himself, so that's why we should be operating on a common page (or set of pages). →Raul654 22:36, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)
If you copy it into a textprocessor, you should be able to change the formatting of the links so that they will appear black and non-underlined, so you don't have to remove them. -- stw (Talk) 23:05, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Comments × 2

1) You might want to stick an entry at Wikipedia:WikiReader for (even) wider publicity; 2) Article suggestion: Ultra. — Matt 22:43, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal

I'm suggesting a change from the current approach. I think we should consider doing a series of references rather than a single volumn. The full suggestion is at Wikipedia talk:World War II wikireader/articles. Isomorphic 03:36, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Arrangement: By time or geography?

I would argue that we should break this project down with geography (Theatres) as our primary sorter, and time as secondary.

Basically, I think we should have it as such:

Theatre
Campaign
Battle

It should be kept in mind that many articles listed as "Battles" here are also campaigns (ie. The Battle of Normandy, by ETO reckoning, is the Normandy Campaign). It should also be remembered that sometimes small campaigns took place within larger ones.

My suggested top level theatres are:

  • Western Europe (France, Britain)
  • Eastern Europe (Poland, Balkans, Soviet Union)
  • Scandinavia (Norway, Finland)
  • The Mediterranean (North Africa, Italy, Mediterranean Sea)
  • The Atlantic Ocean
  • Oceana
  • East Asia

Oberiko 20:09, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Stable versions

You can use Wikipedia:Stable versions to select your articles. -- Zondor 14:55, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

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