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[edit] See also section

We should really trim down the "See also" section. I noticed there's a been a minor edit war over it, if necessary we can create an article called "List of WWE-related topics" or something instead of putting all that stuff in "See also". Ideally, articles should be linked to naturally in the text. --Jtalledo (talk) 17:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I've just created a WWE template recently to sort out the excess of links. I don't think there should be a list either, as that is what the categories are there for. --Oakster (Talk) 17:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
100% Agreed. There is no need to list these non-notable articles when a category can easily become available to access this sort of information without the need of listing Every Single Thing related to WWE on the main article. It just sounds stupid and completely unnecessary when there can be a more useful alternative. -- 3:16 17:42, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Then the List of Video Games, OVW, and DeepSouth links should also be removed. Also, I don't know why it iis locking my old edit on. I keep trying to chance it back to what you guys have (albeit with three less links), but its not letting me so don't fault me for that. JB196 18:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
i think the pge needs more info on ECW!!!

I don't understand why the defunct OVW titles are listed on this page. OVW are a seperate company not owned by WWE. I can see the possible benefit of listing the current OVW champions, but I'm not entirely convinced on that either. Sasaki 11:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

We keep removing them, but somebody keeps putting them up. Defunct OVW titles should be posted on the OVW article. TJ Spyke 17:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I realise that, I was hoping the people concerned might give some insight as to why? Sasaki 17:20, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WCW

I think there should be info about the rumors about WCW coming back. If the rumors about ECW were on the page, why not WCW? --Torax2

What rumors? I visit all the major news/rumor sites and none have posted any rumors of WCW coming back. TJ Spyke 22:19, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

It said on the Wikipedia page on WCW that there was a rumored return. It's gone now. --Torax2

Someone must have put it in there as a joke the, it happens all the time. TJ Spyke 08:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I've heard a rumor about WWE's Friday Night SmackDown to be re-named WWE's WCW. Next year i think. But that's just a rumor. So who knows.

Rumors are not encyclopedic. This is an encyclopedia. There have been no verifiable plans to revive WCW as a distinct brand/show since mid-2001. - Chadbryant 09:35, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

This is a rumor that's been around pretty much since WCW folded, it's not going to happen. (PHOENIXZERO 19:15, 4 September 2006 (UTC))

WCW will be worse than the new ECW if it comes back. There all hasbeens or on TNA and I highly doubt they would even consider bringing WCW back. Jackster608 15:44, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Without mentioning it, Smackdown is WCW. My first point is, look at all of their titles. The United States Title and the Cruiserweight Title have a lineage that includes WCW’s part of the history. The World Championship Belt used on Smackdown is the WCW Championship Belt. The Tag Team Championship Belts have do not share the linage of the original WWE Tag Team Championship. They may as well include the WCW history to those Tag Titles. My second point is, it’s the “B-Show”--Prince Patrick 16:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

You know, I've noticed that, too; as far as championships are concerned, SmackDown! almost seems like an extension of WCW. Jeff Silvers 16:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

If WCW was bought back I think it would be a disaster just like the revived ECW is now.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.29.6.232 (talk • contribs).

The guy who put SmackDown! is WCW. That is an excellent point. But, I saw a site, I forget which, it said that MAYBE (I REPEAT MAYBE-MAYBE-MAYBE) instead of ECW One Night Stand 2007, they would have WCW One Night Stand in which a WWE's WCW brand would be introduced. WWE should have 3 brands: Raw, ECW, WCW 24.57.39.138 05:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I go with Prince on this one although the hulk hogan artical saids he still has the WCW Championship Belt on his wall.--Jay the wiz 00:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I’m not disagreeing the fact that Hulk Hogan, let alone anyone, having a belt hanging up on their walls. I believe all the wrestlers have at least a replica of some sorts of all the titles they ever won. I remember seeing John Cena’s, Trish Stratus’s, and Chyna’s homes with a title belt hanging in their respective walls. I also recall Mick Foley mentioning that he has an “Attitude” version of the old WWF title in his closet. In the case with Hogan, he might actually have the real WCW title in his possession. He is only the greatest “Sports Entertainer” ever. I do mean ever!! However, I’m talking about the title, not the belt. I know that “possession is 9/10 of the law", but in this case, having the physical belt doesn’t make you a champion. Think about Rhyno and the older version of the ECW title. He has the belt, but Lashley is the Current Champion. --Prince Patrick 15:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

What happens is that sometimes the promotion will let the wrestler keep the belt and make a new one for the next champ. They don't do this for every belt or every champion though. Also, WWE probably has the last WCW title belt in a vault at Titan Tower (along with other belts like the Million Dollar Championship). TJ Spyke 04:50, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
That's not what happenes mate. The title belt is the same one for every wrestler, with the exception of custom belts. If a wrestler wants a belt they can get an ultra deluxe replica made up for them. Check WWE Magazine November Issue, it says it in there —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 150.101.75.88 (talk) 07:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC).
That might be how they do it now, but I know they used to do it my way, but usually only a big name wrestler like Hulk Hogan would get the real one. TJ Spyke 04:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox

I created a userbox for WWE fans. It's {{User:Bedford/userboxes/User_WWE}}. --Bedford 16:54, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] titantron at wwe supershow

we know that RAW titantron have been many supershows in U.S. but never as the smackdown titantron. tell me about that?66.80.76.138 22:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

RAW is the A show, so they set up the supershows with RAW in mind. The only difference is that they don't use a ramp for supershows since SmackDown doesn't. TJ Spyke 22:55, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Booker T = Sucka T?

Someone changed King Booker to Sucka T. It needs to be changed back and I unfortunately don't know how without messing up the table.

It's in the table of current champions.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by C rod2006 (talk • contribs).

I just checked and it says "King Booker". TJ Spyke 00:38, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major rewriting needed

Parts of this article are very poorly written, and aren't very useful to anyone without a working knowledge of the subject. The first thing that pops out to me is:

"They persuaded a lot of wrestlers to sign up contracts with the newly-named 'Gold Dust Trio'. They also were the group that developed the concept of working. Of course that changed the course of professional wrestling history forever."

What is the 'Gold Dust Trio'? What is meant by the 'concept of working'? If these two ideas were made more clear, I might understand why it's supposed to be obvious that it 'changed the course of professional wrestling history'.

There are various other spots which are difficult to get through. The biggest problem is that a lot of this article comes across like a magazine article trying to get people interested in watching professional wrestling. Maybe someone who knows more about this can clean it up a little bit and make it more informative to noobs. Dr Ellipso 07:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Seconded, I'm not at all a wrestling fan, which is why I was reading this. I was wondering what "working" was in this context too.

[edit] international offices

Does anyone know where the L.A. office is located?--Yowiki 15:11, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trish Last match

so whats gonna happen to the title if Trish is going?!! -GOTD

Most likely be vacated. TJ Spyke 02:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

who is going to be next? would anyone like to see a battle royal of wwe divas?! -GOTD 03.35 (BST) 18 September 2006

Link officially declaring title vacant for the time being. Though they are building up a program between Mickie and Lita I will not add it since it counts as week by week. [1]. Zdunne 22:01, 18 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Changes

I think that the article about WWE just need to refer the company, not about the history of WWE. There was an article about WWE history. This article should refer to the company (financial status, stock market, worldwide offices, etc), and a short reference or link to their history, TV shows, PPV events, titles. That's what I thought.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.234.181.230 (talk • contribs).

The seperate article for history was created because it was making this page too long. Unfortunately, people have been ignoring the history page. It definately needs a cleaning up. --James Duggan 17:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I read the Monday Night RAW article and I saw a mistake. It's no big deal. I just thought' I'd mention it to you. It says on your last image on that article 'The Raw set used from 2005-Present' but it isn't. Either change the dates or change the image to the new RAW set. I tried to put this on the Talk:Monday Night RAW section, but there wasn't one. By the way, remember the person who kept bugging you about predictions on the Talk:December to Dismember page? Well, we meet again. Don't worry. I'm not going to bug you about it anymore. (October 9 2006 - Present) 24.57.39.138 21:44, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

If a page doesn't have a talk page, you can start it yourself. TJ Spyke 21:46, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Listen man, with all do respect, you need to change the images for the WWE superstars/ECW Extremists. TNA's Kurt Angle is good, Undertaker is good, Jeff Hardy should not be shown with his luggage ready for a show, he should be shown posing in a studio (u know what i mean, i'm not gay) or in the ring. By the way, I'm amazed at how fast u update, u must have a billion tv's to follow all world news at once. Oops, It turns out there was a Talk:Monday Night RAW page, but I put in Talk:RAW. Thanks!

[edit] Owner?

the main page calls vince the OWNER and chairman of the company, how the hell did he become owner? he does NOT own the entire company, only 70% of it, the rest is OWNED BY OTHER PEOPLE!!! i changed it to FOUNDER of the company before, but someone has changed it, again!!! So, im fixing it ONCE AND FOR ALL!!! Thank You --Too Cool 12:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC) ANY Comments? --Too Cool 15:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I changed it to majority owner. He is not the founder of the company, his father Vincent J. McMahon founded the company. TJ Spyke 20:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


man, this article gets vandalised everyday, doesnt it? --Too Cool 12:47, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

The following comments made by myself and TJ Spyke were aimed at an IP impersonating a user. He then deleted his comments, and no one noticed in time to revert it without reverting other productive conversations. That is why nothing in this section from this point on makes sense. Disregard it. The Hybrid 20:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

What are you talking about? You need to read up on the history of the the company because you have your info all wrong. TJ Spyke 06:59, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
If what you say is true, and I highly doubt it, do you have any sources to support your claim? The Hybrid 10:34, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
OK, calm down. This is just Wikipedia, no need to get upset. The WWE/F are the same company as the WWWF, just renamed. The WWWF was the renamed version of the CWC. Renaming a buisness doesn't mean that the owner killed it and formed a new one in its place, and Vince actually said, "for MY 20 years in this buisness", "in MY 20 years IN the WWE", ect. We are simply defending what was already in the article for a long time; unless you have verifiable evidence against us, we don't have to prove anything. The Hybrid 06:28, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Joseph Raymond "Toots" Mondt sold his share to Vincent J. McMahon in the sixties then left the bissness for unknown reasons .see Toots Mondt BionicWilliam 20:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Apocryphal tournament?

Is calling the 1963 tournament in Rio de Janeiro "apocryphal" accurate? I believe it was completely fictional. VelvetKevorkian 18:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

It was fictional. Apocryphal would be an inappropriate word, but unless the WWE admits that it never happened, we are not allowed to say that it didn't. Therefore, apocryphal is the best word that we can use. THL 04:41, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


I disagree that apocryphal is the correct term to use in the circumstances. The fact is that the WWE created a fictional tournament, using it as a reason to crown the first WWE champion. That sentence perfectly sums up what happened. Using words like apocryphal which, by the way, I had to look up don't help. Even though it does fit the purpose, no disrespect to the author of the explanation using it, but the sentence I wrote above would suffice. --*Sam*--
Did you ignore what I said? Unless the WWE admits that it never happened, then we cannot say it was fictional. Therefore, apocryphal is the best word. -- THL 10:31, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Forced Name Change

Shouldn't there be some mention of the lawsuit that forced the name change from WWF to WWE? Reference news story—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.181.186.237 (talk • contribs).

There already is: World Wrestling Entertainment#World Wrestling Entertainment. TJ Spyke 18:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Description

Sorry to bother you guys but what is the short description of RAW & SmackDown? For example ECW is A New Breed Unleashed.(Master King 09:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] WWE sues THQ.

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"World Wresting Entertainment, Inc. has filed a lawsuit against THQ, publisher of WWE video games. Could this delay the releases of WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2007?

The WWE names both THQ and JAKKS Pacific in the suit, and alleges that together they improperly sold video games based on WWE properties in Japan and other Asian territories. The lawsuit asserts that the WWE is entitled to terminate THQ's license and claim monetary damages.

THQ's response dismisses the lawsuit as being "without merit," and declares an intent to mount a vigorous defense, but does not offer any reassurance that the currently scheduled release date of 11/14/06 for WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2007 is unaffected."

So, does anyone think that this deserves a mention somewhere? dposse 01:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

It won't delay the release of the game because they would be a breach of contract. WWE simply wants to be able to end their contract (since THQ has the exclusive video game rights to WWE until about 2012). If WWE wins (which based on the facts I know is a good possibility), then this could be the last WWE game made by THQ. TJ Spyke 01:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
WWE has had a tiff with Jakks and THQ for several years now - if this issue is finally resolved, it's worth on a mentions on the articles for Jakks and the SmackDown! games and maybe on the THQ article. It doesn't seem major enough for the WWE article though. --Jtalledo (talk) 11:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

This issue the WWE is going through with THQ does not belong in wikipedia. Wikipedia does not discuss every little problem and countersuit the WWE gets involved in which is probably a lot. WIkipedia is here to just explain what the WWE is and about the major points about WWE. Maybe you could throw it into a small sentence on various conflicts the WWE has had but other than that, it shouldn't be here. The Gayboy 23:35, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Jtal, maybe a mention in the THQ and JAKKS articles if WWE is successful and has the contract terminated. TJ Spyke 23:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aaron Sams?

WWE Champion was set as Aaron Sams, I changed it. 81.110.2.1 17:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Accomplishments

Who added accomplishments (Champion Champions) messed up the whole champion table and territory table also. It should be placed in the table where King of The Ring is at, etc because those are "Accomplishments". 68.219.13.160

I Changed it all and it's in the same area now as The Money in the Bank match, etc. But now someones changed it. who was it and can you please leave a message here saying why you deleted it. I feel it is valid and is more important than the money in the bank or even king of the ring.User:Black6989
It is NOT more importent than either of those events. For one thing, they only mentioned it ONCE after the match and two, there is no indication that it was anything but a one time gimmick. TJ Spyke 23:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Womnens Champion

Didnt lita lose the title when DX interfered and squirted mustard in her face during a match with mickie james? User:Crazy Chainsaw

That was not a title match. TJ Spyke 03:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Somebody's Messed It Up

I went on it at 6:50pm British time and noticed half of the information missing. Why?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.20.53.195 (talk • contribs).

Probably vandalism. I will check to see if it's been fixed. TJ Spyke 19:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Has it yet been fixed? 86.20.53.195 16:18, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Somebody change it within 24 hours - Please - more info is put onto this page everyday. It is a business that has breaking stories each and every day. This is classed as VANDALISM! 86.20.53.195 17:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

some moron typed that john cena is the best ..... Block this page!!!!!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.210.99.4 (talk • contribs).

[edit] WWF v. WWF

24.239.177.167 05:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)I don't understand why the description of the original 1994 WWF/WWF agreement keeps getting reverted back to the coy and less informative "regarding use," when a fuller description is both possible and preferable.

[edit] incident in indonesia

could someone add about the 9 year old boy who died? and the father protest thats because of wwe? Noobskater 09:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

The boy died because three fifteen year olds injured him while training to wrestle. A month later he died, pretty stupid if you ask me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.71.192.36 (talk • contribs).
The police have already said that the death was not related to WWE. TJ Spyke 02:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Katie VIck

Nothing mentioned about Katie VIck? 12.41.14.138 19:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Crispen Raw

Why should it be? There is an article about that stupid gimmick anyways, Katie Vick. TJ Spyke 22:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Deaths

Look I personally dont beleive there is any need to post the deaths of former Superstars on there, especially blaming it all on Vince McMahon. Most of them abused drugs on their own accord and McMahon and the WWE, release Superstars who partake in such activities. Plus Owen Hart did not die of drug abuse, please get your facts straight and dont tarnish his name or any others who were sober or died from other causes e.g Eddie Guerrero and Joey Marella —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 211.29.6.232 (talk) 23:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

Not to mention that whoever added that in didn't bother to check since many of the wrestlers weren't even in WWE. TJ Spyke 01:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jesse Ventura did wrestle in the WWF

The article says that Jesse Ventura NEVER wrestled in the WWF. Not true. I remember, for example, tag team matches pairing Ventura with Brutus Beefcake. He may have never wrestled frequently, but to say he NEVER wrestled is incorrect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.188.8.159 (talk) 05:47, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Matt Eggers signed with wwe

It said on wwe.com That wwe has signed matt eggers but he not on the current roster section. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wwecenafan (talk • contribs) 03:43, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Do you have a actual source? I don't see anything on wwe.com TJ Spyke 04:31, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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