Talk:Woman on top sex position

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[edit] Misc comments

I've never heard it called this in the UK -- Tarquin 10:06 May 12, 2003 (UTC)

What do we call it here? -- sannse 10:10 May 12, 2003 (UTC)
"Woman on top"? -- Anon.
yup. Don't ask me how I know, but The Joy of Sex calls it something along the lines of "riding St George"
Heh, that sounds like a good description. "Woman on top" is maybe not specific enough - there are a few possible positions that include that (so I'm told ;) -- sannse


About the "supporting herself on her hands": not needed in the sedate version of this position; however, more energetic versions of the same position may find the woman pushed forwards quite vigorously by what's going on under her... She can take her weight on her arms in that case, to restore balance / get a grip. Karada 20:33 8 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Or her partner's arms. --Charles A. L. 23:44, Feb 21, 2004 (UTC)
Following comments on the WikiEn-l mailing list about how Wikipedia must not be censored in any way, on e wiki-kiss to anyone who uploads a GFDL'd, encyclopedic image of a couple making love in the cowgirl sex position. Martin 22:04 17 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Uh, so, there's not really mention here that these names -- cowgirl position, reverse cowgirl position -- come from shorthand used in producing pornographic movies. I believe the clinical term for this sexual position is female superior. -- ESP 04:41 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)

There are official clinical terms for sex positions? This is great news! Can you give some more? Can they make the "cowgirl"/"reverse cowgirl" distiction? -- Karada 17:42 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Yes, there are clinical terms for sex positions. No, they mostly cover the basics -- male superior, female superior, male posterior. I only know the names from reading, can't cite sources, but I'll try to dig them up. It's probably worth noting that Cosmopolitan magazine and other women's magazines make up their own terms for positions -- the debt collector, explosive intimacy, yadda yadda. The porn industry terms aren't universal. -- ESP 00:16 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I'd be really interested in a proper cite for the medical terms: the web is useless for this. At least doctors and the sex industry have a need for unambiguous terms; the women's magazines and sex manuals, as you say, seem to want to make up new names each time. -- Karada 13:16 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I'll get right on it. Until then, could you give a cite for the current terms? I think we can find it in Hustler and Cheri. -- ESP 13:40 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright Violation?

I think this article may be violating copyright. In searches I did on Google to find a GPL'd/GFDL'd image of the cowgirl sex position, I found this website. The article here on Wikipedia seems to be a near word for word copy of the text on the World Sex Explorer website. Does the author of that site provide permission for the text to be copied here? Until these questions are answered I recommend copyediting.--Flockmeal 22:54, 15 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Au contraire. The article at www.worldsexexplorer.com appears to be a copy of the original GFDL'd article written here at Wikipedia. I know, because I wrote the first version. Please check the article history to see the many edits that created the Wikipedia article. We should contact worldsexexplorer.com's owners to ask them to comply with the GFDL licencing requirements. -- Karada 09:42, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
A quick look suggests that they may have also copied various other Wikipedia content. -- Karada 09:46, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
wow. if porn sites are using our content, we must be doing something right! ;) -- Tarquin 09:51, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Ok, I am corrected. Thanks, was just making sure. I'll remember to check the page history next time. --Flockmeal 22:55, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I just found another website that seems to take its content directly from yours.
There are dozens of them. The known ones are listed here: Wikipedia:Sites that use Wikipedia for content. If you find any that are not listed there, then please add them. --snoyes 07:16, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Woman on top

I've heard the name "woman on top" hundreds of times more frequently than "cowgirl". Would anybody agree or oppose that I rename it as such?--Sonjaaa 00:17, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)

I've heard the name "amazon" quite often, and it seems to be the standard naming in books; and had never heard "cowgirl" before. I wouldn't like to sound too homeric and fond of ancient Greek mythology, but I would really prefer something less mundane than "cow-girl". So I concure to the idea of renaming the article. Rama 00:50, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
That sounds good to me too. I suggest if no one seriously objects here on talk after say a week, go ahead and retitle the article. -- Infrogmation 00:56, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Why don't you do a redirect page? "Woman on top" sounds no less mundane to me than "cowgirl". How about moving the page to "Reverse Missionary Position". Ttownfeen 21:24, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A letter to Worldsexexplorer.Com about its plagiarism and copyright-infringement of us.

I wrote the following letter to Worldsexexplorer.Com about its plagiarism and copyright-infringement of us:


        From:   Ŭalabio
        Subject:         Copyrightviolation of WikiPedia.Org
        Date:   June 29, 2005 00:40:45 GMT
        To:     <Help@Worldsexexplorer.Com>

        


        ¡Hello!

        ¿How Fare You?

        You copy much information from WikiPedia.Org.  As an example

        http://worldsexexplorer.com/cowgirl-sex.html

        comes from an older version of

        http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_on_top_sex_position

        We at WikiPedia.Org want to create a free and open Encyclopædia for
the world.  We do not mind people mirroring us.  The more people
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it, because, for some without Internet-Access, a CD of our
Encyclopædia costing five dollars may be the only option. None need
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        Our contributers work long and hard on our articles without pay.
All they want is credit.  To that end, all of WikiPedia.Org is
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        Basically, all you have to do is state that you got a the content
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article has history stored indicating who authored it).  It is that
simple to legitimize your use of our material.  Not crediting
WikiPedia.org and backlinking to the original article opens you up to
potential lawsuits for legal liabilities such as plagiarism and copyright-infringement.  All we ask is credit to WikiPedia.Org and a backlink to
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— Ŭalabio June 29, 2005 01:23 (UTC)

Displayed right at the bottom of that article: This article is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License. It uses material from the Wikipedia article "Cowgirl Sex Position". It's been there for more than a year (according to archive.org, since June 17, 2004). So you sent that email for no reason at all. --DoubleCross 23:49, July 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Butt cheeks?

Is not the phrase "butt cheeks", used in this article, slang?

It certainly is here in the UK. Any suggestions for replacements ie. buttocks? Or should it be left as-is?

The intended tone is scientific, so slng is indeed out of place here (unless discussing slant intself obviously). Do feel free to correct to a better wording if you wish. Rama 14:23, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Feminism section

I have removed the brief section on feminism from this article. Not only did it not cite its sources, but the quote used did not follow from the introduction to the quote, and the entire quote itself seemed somewhat biased against men. --HarmonicFeather 07:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is gender neutrality necessary here?

Do we really need to be gender neutral for a position called "woman on top"? I propose that this page be about the heterosexual position in which the woman is the receptive partner. Another page or pages can cover the other three possibilities. (Or alternatively, this page could have sections for each and should be renamed to something gender neutral. However, I think this is clunkier.) This page should discuss specifics about the position. This can only be done if specific body parts are under discussion. If every phrase is neutered, then no real meaning can come across. --Strait 06:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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