User talk:Wmjuntunen

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[edit] Detroit Focus Quarterly

Hello -- thanks for leaving a message. First, let me remind you to please sign all messages with your Wikipedia username by typing four tildes in a row ~~~~. Otherwise a person has to look back through the history of their talk page to see who to answer. Okay, formalities out of the way, as to your concern over the deletion of DFQ. Wikipedia works through consensus in all decisions, and the consensus of editors who voted whether or not to delete DFQ was unanimous to delete. It was not, you see, my decision; all I did was carry out the will of the community in physically deleting the page. Even if you had voted to keep the article, your vote would not have been enough to sway the result because otherwise it was unanimous. I hope this makes sense. Thanks. · Katefan0(scribble) 15:07, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

On your points -- you're right, in some ways Wikipedia is not a democray, and in cases where there is no apparent consensus articles nominated for deletion may be kept, since generally Wikipedia errs on the side of keeping where there is a question. But in the case of this article, there was no question, no quibbling, no equivocation; the vote, in all cases, was to delete, the voters feeling that there was no chance for an article on this entity to ever have encyclopedic merit. I don't say that to be harsh as it's clear you're of a different opinion, I am only summarizing the fact of the matter. As for your entreaty about not having been notified that the article was up for deletion -- with all due respect, that is what watchlists are for. When an article is on your watchlist, it's flagged when changed, and it would've been easy to have seen that it was nominated for deletion. It is unreasonable to expect someone to notify you -- beyond the watchlist, which is what that feature is expressly for -- every time someone changed an article, or, yes, even nominated it for deletion. That you were not logging on often enough to see the deletion notice, or weren't checking your watchlist, is unfortunate but is noone else's fault. Continuing to try to convince me that DFQ is a worthy article is fairly fruitless; I have no special power in this instance, save to help you understand Wikipedia's policies. I'm very sorry you got caught off guard. You should know that you are not preluded from re-creating the article at a later date, PROVIDED it is significantly different and significantly expanded from the first version. If it is not, and instead is significantly the similar to the article that was deleted, it may be deleted on sight by any administrator. Best of luck · Katefan0(scribble) 15:41, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
I will not reverse the deletion; the community's consensus was unambiguously unanimous that it should have been deleted. There has been some discussion of other means of notifying people of various changes to articles, but none have borne fruit. You might like to visit Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) to discuss those sorts of issues further. Thanks. · Katefan0(scribble) 16:31, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
You can request undeletion at Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion. However I must caution you that the VFU process is intended to be deliberative only of whether the process of deleting an article was proper, not for judging whether content itself was encyclopedia-worthy. Good luck · Katefan0(scribble) 16:55, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Criteria for inclusion

Hi/hei there - you've expended a lot of work on articles, but I am concerned that a number of them are about subjects who simply may not meet the generally accepted guidelines for inclusion. (You can find these at WP:BIO). The guidelines agree that inclusion should cover: painters, sculptors, architects, engineers, and other professionals whose work is recognized as exceptional and likely to become a part of the enduring historical record of that field

Those articles which document or relate closely to your personal exploration of arts and culture probably belong on your own personal website rather than on Wikipedia. Humansdorpie 15:06, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Thanks for your reply. I am sorry if you felt patronised by my message above - that was not my intention. I agree with you that there is a need for emergent, often regional, artists to be criticised and documented. However, I don't agree that Wikipedia is the place to do it. Regards, Humansdorpie 15:58, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Thanks for your message. With the greatest respect, it might be helpful for you to reconsider what you are trying to accomplish. There is an important official policy of long standing that Wikipedia is not a place to publish your own research, thoughts or critical analyses, and I repeat that articles which document or relate closely to your personal exploration of arts and culture probably belong on your personal website rather than on Wikipedia. On a related matter, don't forget that the deletion process involves not only the three or four people who actively vote to delete a nominated article; it also includes the people (twenty individuals? Fifty? 100?) who view the nomination for an article and decide not to vote to keep it. Regards, Humansdorpie 10:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gretchen Kramp

I nominated an article that you created, Gretchen Kramp, for deletion. If you think that the article is salvagable, or that I'm mistaken, please comment on its talk page. Please see the Guide to deletion and proposed deletion guidelines if you have any questions about Wikipedia's deletion process. --Thatcher131 03:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

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