Talk:Wire wrap

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"hunter tools" external link at bottom of page is dead

Fixed Light current 16:34, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Trademark Issue

Wire-Wrap is an active trademark assigned to Cooper Industries and should be capitalized and hyphenated as such. -- Grumpyoldgeek 01:49, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

The term is part of the general language now. (I was using it as a generic myself almost thirty years ago!) Stan 12:55, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
It's your call then, I'll not lose any sleep over it. Grumpyoldgeek 19:14, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Photograph says nothing

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This photo is useless here because it does not illustrate wire wrap at all (or anything else). The method of construction in the pic could easily be any one of:

  • nothing at all
  • component lead to component lead
  • soldered (PCB type) joints using the board pattern
  • hand soldered point to point wiring
  • hand wire wrap
  • mc wire wrap

It should therefore be removed as a waste of space. Unless any justification can be made for its retention, I shall remove it again shortly.--Light current 00:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

The picture shows the higher component density of a hand wirewrap construction relative to a Veroboard build. You keep removing it, I keep replacing it, and so the spat continues. But in the true spirit of Wiki, would you be happier if we included with this picture, the reverse side of the board which shows the manual wirewrap? I can do this if you wish. Colin99 18:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes I would be far happier if the reverse side of the board was shown. THis would then at least impart some info! 8-)--Light current 23:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Now I have a question: The variant of wirewrap used on this board was sold as "Wire Pen". The wire is enamel insulated, and is usually burnt off by the soldering iron when the connections are made. But is this what has been intended under the title Manual Wirewrap, or should this be under another wirewrap category?
PS: The board shown could never have been PCB tracked as in your list. With all those 0.1" pitch holes everywhere?! Colin99 14:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Wire wrap in my experience never requires soldering.--Light current 01:30, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll place the picture here initially for you to look at, in a day or two. Colin99 20:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

OK. Thanks! 8-)--Light current 00:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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Wirepen construction, a variant of wirewrap. Much higher component density is possible compared with Veroboard. Plastic guides route enamel covered wire. The wire is wrapped around the component legs, and then, uniquely for a wirewrap construction, soldered. The solder burns off the enamel insulation to make the connections. Colin99 16:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


I've not heard any reply. If nothing is heard, I will put the picture back and a subsection on wirepen and the second picture. Colin99 19:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to say photo is not very convincing. Why not take one looking straight down on at the underside of the board?--Light current 01:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I can do, though I didn't think that view showed the soldering very well. What aspect is "not convincing"? I mean to say, what do you need to be convinced of? That it is a high density construction? Or that it is the same board?! Colin99 19:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Well basically, on this oblique view, I cant see the actual interconnecting wires. Perhaps you can see them- but I cant make them out. Thats Y I sugggested a proper plan photo so we can see everything. 8-)--Light current 22:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wirepen is not Wirewrap

I see now we are talking about different things. I dont think what yuo are ahowing is 'wire wrap'. I mean if the wires are soldered, wher does the wrapping come in?--Light current 22:15, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

THis stuff should not be on the wire wrap page. Where it should go, I have no idea yet! 8-(--Light current 22:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I think this technique Wire pen construction deseves its own page actually!--Light current 22:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

It is a variant of wirewrap. The wires are wrapped around the pins and then cut with the supplied tool as part of the wrapping movement. Solder is then applied in order to burn off the insulation. I think it probably should go under manual wirewrap as a variant rather than its own page. Anyone else with opinions on this? Colin99 22:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I cant agree!--Light current 04:20, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Well if you feel that strongly, we can do a Wirepen page and at least mention it under the Wirewrap page, because I think you must agree the two techniques are related. However it is not the way I would do it personally. Hence other people's comments would be welcome in order to make a decision. Colin99 22:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

You can do a Wirepen construction page yes. Well probably link it from this page as well as others.--Light current 20:47, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
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