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Nice stuff. I'm not entirely sure about some of the titles though: I pulled them out of the British Library's catalogue, but some of them certainly don't agree with what I'd call them (or what eg Amazon calls them). Cheers --Pak21 19:13, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, my best guess is that they should be called 'Warhammer 40,000, series name, book name'. ie. 'Warhammer 40,000 Codex: Space Marines'. The novels are easy enough to find out from the Black Library site... -Localzuk (talk) 19:45, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] White Dwarf references

Large numbers of the articles have references to (the Australian edition of) White Dwarf. I propose to (slowly) reformat these from the current format, which is something like

  • White Dwarf Magazine (Australian Edition). ISSN 0265-8712
    • Index Astartes – Crimson Fists. Issue 288. Distributed by Games Workshop Australia in December 2003.

(from Crimson Fists) to using the {{cite journal}} template to format them something like

  • (December 2003) "Index Astartes – Crimson Fists". White Dwarf: Australian Edition (288). ISSN 0265-8712.

Any objections? Cheers --Pak21 14:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I think this would be a good idea. It will allow easier maintenance of the references in general if they all conform to a {{cite}} format. We could also convert any online ones that don't currently do so to use the web reference one (which can later be changed to cite web when it is finished). -Localzuk (talk) 14:22, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Cool. I've just done all the articles in Category:Chaos Space Marine Legions, and will do the rest similarly unless anyone has any complaints, suggestions for improvements, etc. Cheers --Pak21 10:35, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Imperial Armour II

I've added the details of Imperial Armour II, but have left it in the incomplete section as I wasn't sure if it belonged with the codices or other books. The ISBN on the book matches what was already listed, but when I checked it online I found some sources listed the ISBN as IA2[1] and others as L'empire (Warhammer Armies S.) [2] EsonLinji 14:57, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I've put it in "Other books" for now (not that it really matters too much), along with a note about the ISBN discrepancy. Cheers --Pak21 16:04, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Web-based sources

I'd just like to note that several of the web-based sources (in particular those dealing with army rules and special characters) were originally published in either an out of date Codex, or in White Dwarf magazine. -- Saberwyn 12:48, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Noted :-) I'd suggest that for WD articles, we could then use the 'url' parameter of {{cite journal}} to give both sources in one reference (as done with the Space Crusade review). I'm not sure how to deal with dual Codex/web references: I'm torn between giving the Codex, which is the primary source, and the web version, which is easier for readers to both use and verify. I guess we should probably give both. Cheers --Pak21 13:13, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Or alternatively, we could use the 'url' parameter of {{cite book}}. D'oh. --Pak21 14:01, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay. I'll have a look at the list and tag which ones are from where. -- Saberwyn 21:16, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Codex editions

I think we (me, to a large extent) are being inconsistent with our use of edition numbers for the Codex references. Some of them (eg Codex: Necrons) are using the edition of the 40k main rules which they refer to as the edition, while others (eg the 2003 release of Codex: Imperial Guard) are using taking the edition as the nth release of that specific book. Any views on which of these two styles we should be using, or possibly a third style known as "don't use it" (as the title and year uniquely identify each book anyway, even before we start considering ISBNs)? Cheers --Pak21 16:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

  • I think it would be best to associate the Codexes with which rules-set they were released under. -- Saberwyn 02:08, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
    • I suggest the format "Nth" edition Codex:"Army" "Nth" Release - so 3rd edition Codex:Chaos Space Marines 2nd release, for example (the "release" helps differentiate between a Release and a Printing--Charax 10:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
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