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Firefox formatting for main page

I give up. I wanted to add more photos along the right-hand side of the main project page but apparently this screws up the formatting in Firefox (my primary browser) by jumbling up the entire page's [Edit] buttons all together into one (so that they look like this: "[Edit] [Edit] [Edit] [Edit] [Edit] [Edit]" at the end of the article or section). So yeah... I give up. If anyone can figure this out, feel free to fix it. I've thrown everything I could at this problem. Argh. --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 04:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

One way to do it is to intersperse the "Image" links throughout the article instead of bunching them at the top. You might consider this cheating. Usgnus 00:38, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Check out Bentall Centre (Vancouver) for the kludgy way to make the [Edit] links appear in the proper places in Firefox. Usgnus 22:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Oooh, that's cool. :-o Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 02:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Airport assistance

Based on the tag I saw on Vancouver International Airport I just updated List of airports in the Vancouver area. Can someone who knows about the area make sure I added all of them to the list. The full list of airports is at Category:Airports in British Columbia and the full list of heliports is at List of heliports in Canada. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Is Delta Heritage Air Park the same as Boundary Bay Airport? --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 06:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
No it's not so I just added it. All the airports in the Category:Airports in British Columbia are different. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:43, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Vancouver_Coal_Harbour_Seaplane_Base has wrong airport code and coordinates. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Vancouver_Coal_Harbour_Seaplane_Base for discussion. This needs to be corrected as does List of airports in the Vancouver area 24.84.54.6 16:23, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

CXH is definitely the IATA code for Vancouver Coal Harbour. The old coordinates were definitely for Coal Harbour, British Columbia near Port Hardy. --Usgnus 16:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

School district 39, British Columbia

I created Vancouver School Board as a redirect to School district 39, British Columbia. I think it's best to work with the original article, since it's in a naming format already used for other BC school districts. --Dogbreathcanada 08:34, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. The current SD 39 page needs some work though. :) --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 09:08, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh yeah, there's no doubt about that. But best to direct the work to the right article, rather than split work across two articles. --Dogbreathcanada 09:51, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

For future reference, both of the above now redirect to School District 39 Vancouver. -- TheMightyQuill 15:41, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Elementary Schools

After creating a couple of elementary school pages, I've realized that perhaps we should have a single page for all of them or just include them in the VSB page. The high schools in general have enough information for their own pages. What do people think?


-Well, I just "graduated" from Cameron Elementary in Burnaby. When I was in school at Cameron, some of us students took on the Wikipeda page as a mini-project. If, instead of combining them, we send out an e-mail to each of the red-labelled schools about contributing, some of them may put up their information. After all, they are probably the only ones who know about the history of each of the elementary schools.--Supercraft99

Vancouver Neighbourhoods NavBox

I've created a new NavBox for Vancouver neighbourhoods, to bring some sort of unity to all the areas. --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 01:14, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

I removed the navbox from the talk page. Follow above link to see it. Usgnus 23:34, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Vancouver biographical stub template proposed for deletion

Voice your thoughts here. I'm staying out of it, as I'm neutral on the issue. --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 01:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Transit

SkyTrain

With the Olympics approaching, I want to begin work on creating station articles, but before I do that, I want to ask for some help. I've never been able to figure out how to redirect, and I was wondering if someone could get "Sky Train" could redirect to "SkyTrain." This screws me up every time...and I live here! Tx! Fishhead64 21:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Done. For redirects, you do this: #REDIRECT[[name of page]]. --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 21:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Bus Routes

In List of bus routes in Greater Vancouver (before I created this account), I changed the B-Line section to 90-99 because in 2007, the 135 route will be converted to a B-Line and in 2009, the 43 route will be converted to a B-Line. The tentative numbers for these two routes will be 95 and 91 respectively. So even though there are no 90-96 B-Line routes right now, I saw no harm in changing the section titles ahead of time. I'm not really defending what I did so much as explaining. I'll just be more patient and wait until the new lines are announced (or at least confirmed).

Oops, I wasn't signed in for my last edit. I hope it's okay that I changed the Skytrain section to a more general Transit heading. Forgot to sign before. Usgnus 00:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I changed the B-Line numbers back because the new B-Lines aren't official yet. There's no 91 B-Line yet. Doesn't seem to make sense to change the headings now. Wait until they are officially introduced, and in service, and then we'll see. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 21:50, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

We should have some articles on bus routes.Canadianshoper 23:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

95 and 91 B-Line, where do you get that from? Sir Studieselot 22:18, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

For the 95 B-Line, TransLink Annual Report 2005 (PDF) page 14 (page 16 in the PDF). Both the 91 and 95 B-Lines were mentioned in documents produced during the Vancouver UBC Transit Plan process. -- Usgnus 22:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! Sir Studieselot 04:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Merged

I merged the "General" discussion section of the WikiProject with the (empty) "Strategy" section, since the latter was gathering dust and one discussion section makes more sense and alleviates confusion. If there are any objections, feel free to speak up and we'll see what we can do. Thanks. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 04:31, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Templates for biographical stubs: GVRD

As there is a current discussion about the {{vancouver-bio-stub}} template right now, I feel that it is appropriate to discuss the {{gvrd-bio-stub}} template as well. Right now, it looks like vancouver-bio-stub will be merged with {{vancouver-stub}}. Do you guys want to do the same with gvrd-bio-stub if that happens? (i.e. merging gvrd-bio-stub with {{gvrd-stub}}?) --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 04:38, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

You guys might want to keep a closer eye on it this time. The discussion has now turned into whether or not to kill the GVRD stubs too, effectively vetoing the consensus we as a WikiProject reached earlier. They obviously don't understand the political situation of the GVRD, and that cities like Richmond and Burnaby are not exactly considered to be "Vancouver" but more commonly as "Greater Vancouver." --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 20:15, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Now they are doubting whether GVRD is the common name for the region. I'm fighting alone here, guys. I'd love to see more people back me up on this (that both GVRD and Greater Vancouver are common names for the region) because they are threatening to veto the consensus we reached earlier about having GVRD stubs... (I've requested a Vancouver-area admin as well on the Admins' noticeboard, just in case.) --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 02:38, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, my two bits are that the GVRD is the "actual" Vancouver as far as the outside world goes; the City of Vancouver is really only a "ward" in a larger metro complex which the rest of the world knows by the name of the city. But it's also hard to consider Maple Ridge and Langley as Vancouver, even if you can get away with that (figuratively) for Surrey, Richmond, Burnaby and even Delta. In other contexts "Greater Vancouver" is used interchangeably with "Lower Mainland", which is actually the combo meal version of Greater Vancouver plus the Central and Upper Fraser Valley (Hope/Yale being the borderline of the Lower Mainland). Why not just use "van" in the stub instead of "gvrd"? GVRD is a whole can of worms; historically it didn't exist before a certain date etc.Skookum1 04:23, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
GVRD is used because it has set boundaries and is more undisputable. In any case, the category to be used now is Cat:Greater Vancouver Regional District. Guess those stub categorization guys dislike abbreviations... --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 04:38, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Schools NavBox

I have created a NavBox for Vancouver Schools. I had no idea that there were so many private schools in Vancouver! If I am missing any schools or if you think we should remove any of those "alternative programs" that are listed under the "private schools" sections, please let me know, or just fix it yourself. Canuck89 06:43, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

...and I thought here in Richmond we have a lot of elementary schools! Sheesh. Good job. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 06:59, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Changing category for GVRD stubs

I'm changing the category to "Greater Vancouver Regional District stubs" to prevent articles being listed both on the parent category and subcategories. If you have any objections, state your case here. Thanks. --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 03:54, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Sea Island

I wrote up the page for Sea Island. I'm not in on this project, I live in Tennessee, but I saw Tawker's stub and was interested. Let me know what you think and have fun with it. "Sea Island" now needs a disambig page because there is also Sea Island, Georgia. Happy editing. TKE 18:34, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Looks okay. I expanded on it several days ago, but not bad for a non-GVRDer. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 22:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
I think it's safe to say it's no longer a stub. :-) Usgnus 22:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Agreed, and removed stub tag. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 22:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Bridges of Greater Vancouver template

I'm taking out "Airport Connector Bridge" because, according to the official Tourism Richmond map, it is officially called the Sea Island Bridge, which already has an entry in the NavBox. --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 01:57, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Where is the Middle Arm Bridge? I count only four road bridges across the middle arm of the Fraser, and they are all accounted for: No.2, Dinsmore, Moray and Sea Island. Usgnus 01:24, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
  • As far as I can tell, the Middle Arm Bridge was the old name for the Moray bridge. Vancouver Bridges Andrewjuren(talk) 08:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I believe Middle Arm = Moray as well. I've lived in Richmond all my life and I'm not aware of any other bridge besides the ones Usgnus just listed. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 08:53, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm removing Middle Arm from the template Usgnus 02:03, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Month: April 2006

The University of British Columbia article is the WikiProject Vancouver Collaboration of the Month as it has the highest number of "support" votes out of the nominees. (The SkyTrain has the same number of votes but it was nominated later -- for tiebreakers, it's first come, first serve). If you find a Greater Vancouver-related article you think deserves recognition, by all means nominate it. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 07:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

All of the nominated articles are quite lengthy and full. Seems pointless to nominate them. Articles that require more, more facts, more depth, should be the articles that we nominate. The point of collaberation, in my mind, is to work on bringing more articles up to Wiki standards, not work on articles that are already up to Wiki standards. --Dogbreathcanada 09:26, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Oops, apparently I misinterpreted the "COTM" meaning as being the BEST article of the month... now I'm embarassed. [pause]. So... anybody want to vote in favor of de-COTMing the UBC article? Because now this is making them look REALLY bad... Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 08:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm just glad I finally got your attention on the issue. :) --Dogbreathcanada 09:28, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Good thing too, because I would've offended a LOT of hardworking people who have made good articles. I'm just really embarassed right now. I guess the only way to learn is to fall flat on your face. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 09:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Selected Article of the Month

Now that we have collaboration articles and featured article squared away ...

Are Wikiprojects allowed to have Featured Articles? If so, should we set this up? Perhaps move the UBC article to "Featured Article" and quickly nominate a new Collaboration Article (be easier to have these things start on the first of every month anyhow). --Dogbreathcanada 09:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Yea, they're referred to as "selected articles". deadkid_dk 11:28, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good. Let's wait about three days to see if there's any objection to this idea. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 21:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Meanwhile, I've removed UBC as COTM -- I guess we'll see if there's a clear-cut winner in the next few days or so, for COTM. Vancouver General Hospital is "winning" so far; that's my personal choice. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 21:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Vancouver's size

Apparently, WikiProject Vancouver is the largest WikiProject dedicated to a Canadian city. We actually beat out Toronto by a huge margin. Just a little interesting tidbit. :) Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 03:10, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

*brings out the beer* deadkid_dk 03:20, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
How was this measured? Curious. --Dogbreathcanada 05:01, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
By number of participants. That's how I measured it. By number of articles, I have no clue... Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 05:11, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
I just did a quick count -- the WikiProject has around 260 articles for Vancouver proper. I haven't counted the GVRD article total yet. Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 07:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
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