Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Vancouver/Archive/July 2006

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Graphs

I tried changing the lists into graphs where you can type the status of articles but it didn't work, instead, it made the whole section blank so I changed it back. How do you make it work? Sir Studieselot 03:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Vancouver municipal election, 2002

I created a page for the Vancouver municipal election, 2002. Take a look and see if you can improve it. Geedubber 02:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Is there an article for this?

Is there an article about the Asiatic Exclusion League riots in Vancouver? I'm almost certain it would be here but apparently I can't find it. Perhaps the article uses a different name? -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 05:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. That's odd, I thought there would have been, given the coverage of Chinese history in Canada (sloppily written and "shoddily facted" though it has been); The riots, in their time, were known as the Anti-Oriental Riots, and in a historical phrasing would be the Anti-Oriental Riots of 1907; whichever would be the better title. There are no other Wiki pages by that name, i.e. for other cities. Good resource materials for a blow-by-blow account (so to speak) are Alan Morley, Vancouver: Milltown to Metropolis, James Morton, In The Sea of Sterile Mountains: The Chinese in British Columbia, Maj. J. S. "Skitt" Matthews, Early Vancouver (there's his own account, plus various eye-witness reports within the personal memoirs E.V. is full of), and details in various Vancouver Sun articles which may be searchable on-line; the recent stuff by Ian Mulgrew is a crock but Stephen Hume's and others are quite detailed, if not always impartial. The CCNC account on their website ]is sketchy and a-factual, like most of their historical jigglings. If you can't find Morton and Morley let me know and I'll type-copy 'em and put them in my BC & Pacific Northwest History Forum sandbox area, which ultimately will have various history resources, esp. from out-of-print books and public-domain historical maps; it's also a place for me to put my sundry a-cyclopedic ravings on Vancouveritis (sangria-fueled or otherwise) and similar stuff; (Early Vancouver I don't own anymore as I was in need of groceries and it was worth a hundred bucks; the full set is in the City Archives, what's in print - and rare but in VPL and elsewhere - is only the first two volumes, but it does include his main account of the Riots; btw he also has a full table of Musqueam/Squamish placenames which should be incorporated into the Vancouver pages somehow; love the name for Jericho Beach - Eeyulshun, which if I remember means something like "soft sand squishing through your toes"). I also recently wrote a partial account of the Riots for a Comments Forum on Tyee Books; they're offline due to some technical problems so I can't dredge the link right now, but once they're back up look for a Terry Glavin book/review by Charles Campbell, called Monkey Wrestles With Madness at http://thetyee/Books/ - my point with the explanation there, by the way, is that despite the popular Canadian myth/image of BCers being racist, the riots in 1907 (like those in 1885) were perpetrated largely by recent arrivals from Eastern Canada; BCers throughout the early period, as you'll find in both Morton and Matthews, were much more pragmatic as well as fractured on the issue of Chinese labour and immigration (which was THE issue in early politics, and it's not as simple as boiling all of it down to "racism" - read Morton, is all I've been saying lately, and give your head a good scratch). Not relevant to Vancouver but to this discussion I had occasion to look up the Cumberland Strikebreaking Riots of 1910, which were anti-Chinese as much as anti-Dunsmuir (Dunsmuirs being an old BC family and, like other local wealth, always pragmatic about cheap Chinese labour); Cumberland was once the West Coast of North America's second-largest Chinatown; mind you, so were Barkerville's and Lillooet's and Yale's in their day, too.....Skookum1 16:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you look to Morley and Matthews given your comment about how shoddy this history has been covered. Primary sources, sure, but both those guys, I think, are unreliable. (FYI, There's a great article in the latest Canadian Historical Review on Matthews and hobos during the depression by Todd McCallum). I'm also not sure I'd agree with your comment about racism, and racial violence, being an import from easterners - there is an element of truth there, but I think it has more to do with the demands of development at the time than what those eastern bastards brought with them. Anyhow, enough nitpicking. Thanks for all the sources - the Morton book sounds intriguing.

I beefed up the Vancouver section of Asiatic Exclusion League. Feel free to give me feedback or make yer own changes. The Canadian section could probably be a non-stub now, but frankly, I don't think seperating Can. and the US is a good idea in this case. Seems to be more of a west coast thing than country-specific, and obviously our AEL was a knock off of the one down south anyway.Bobanny 23:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

HELP REQUIRED FROM ALL WIKIPROJECT VANCOUVER MEMBERS

I am working on an article for the Student Price Card due to the fact that it's pretty common to see the logo on shop doors now around most of the shopping malls. The article needs serious clean up and contributions. If you can help, please do so. Thank You Spyco 09:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Major expansion of New Westminster page; please add/emend/edit

I just through-wrote this from memory over morning coffee and be adviwsed it's just an outline in spots. There's various comment-outs that I'll refer/change to later but if someone else knows the details raised, feel free to jump right in and make the changes. I realize now I forgot to put in a section on the Great Fire of 1898 which is a requisite part of the history, so will dig some stuff and pix up later about that, as well as pix of Govt House, the Pen, and a city map; almost thinking a History of New Westminster article will eventually be required; but then we're still working on History of Vancouver and History of British Columbia, so let's leave well enough alone for now....Skookum1 19:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Question re Sport in Vancouver category

Is this category for teams in the whole GVRD, or just Vancouver proper? Noted the SFU Clan are listed, so I'm thinking the New Westminster Salmonbellies and Coquitlam Adanacs (when and if that gets written) should be in the same cat; or should they be in the Sport in British Columbia cat?Skookum1 22:21, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Put them in Category:Sport in Vancouver. --Usgnus 23:49, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Thx; did anyway, but good to get confirmation.Skookum1 00:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Ditto what Usgnus said. Unless someone thinks it should say "Sport in Greater Vancouver" or something. Should be fine the way it is right now. -→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 02:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Historical photos usage issues/idea

Please see Talk:New Westminster, British Columbia#Historical photos issues.Skookum1 00:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Dawson Creek, British Columbia

Dawson Creek, British Columbia is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 21:27, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

August COTM

I updated the COTM -- it's the Port of Vancouver with the most support votes for August.

Vancouver Collaboration of the Month
Every month, a Vancouver- or Greater Vancouver-related topic, stub or nonexistent article is picked to be the Vancouver Collaboration of the Month.

The current COTM is British Columbia's Children's Hospital for December, 2006.
(Archived nomination discussion and suggestions for this article.)

-→Buchanan-Hermit/?! 17:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Need help

I've just added the transit table, and I can't get the text to show. I'm not to used to wikicode table syntax...Selmo 03:27, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Oddd... I've tried a few things (in preview) with no success. I'm wondering if there's something in the code of the Skytrain Stations template that's mucking up the box. When I replaced the "Skytrain" template with the "Schools" template, the table formatted correctly. Any code whiz-kids willing to take a look bugs in the template code? --Ckatzchatspy 04:24, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
That was weird. It should be all set now. --Usgnus 05:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)