Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Userboxes/Creation templates

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This page is to discuss whether Template:Userbox, Template:Userbox-2, Template:Userbox-r and Template:Userbox-m should be moved to Template:User 1, Template:User 2, Template:User r and Template:User m.

Imported from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Userboxes

I see someone has moved {{Userbox-2}} to {{User 2}}. I really don't think this was a good idea - firstly because 99% of userbox templates are now going through redirects. Secondly, this template was not a userbox, it was the template to create a userbox. Therefore it does not come under the remit of changing all user boxes...etc..

I seriously think this move should be reconsidered, along with the moving of the other templates for creation. Image:Anglo-indian.jpg Deano 21:28, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I believe User:Ian13 changed to User rather than Userbox due to the greater number of already existing User prefixes the discussion can be found over here: Wikipedia_talk:Userboxes#This_pages_future. Secondly in the light of this confusion, could we do something about centralising these types of discussions? --Grand Edgemaster _Talk 21:51, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, I presume they all go here, unless anyone has some good ideas for some sub-pages to discuss things. The thing is, as I understood, although it was considered that userbox would be good, user was the prefix where most userboxes were situated. Regarding the redirects, we are working on transfering them all over to the new template so that the redirect can be removed. I also understand it was considered (somewhere) that it could be good to have all userboxes under the same prefix so that users could inter-organise userboxes as they so wish, and this will seriously help in organising userboxes and helping users display boxes nicely on their user pages, and moving all the babel languages would be hugely impractical. In theory, those templates are not to create userboxes for other templtes, but to create uerboxes for peoples pages, and having the same (user) prefix will mean organisation templates can be used with them as well. Ian¹³_ID:540053 22:02, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

It seems that userbox creation templates are considered that they should remain at userbox prefixes.

Templates like User Wikipedia however will continue to be ported since they will soon be splint into seperate templates for users to use in babel boxes and the like. Ian¹³_ID:540053 22:08, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Agree - the {{userbox}}, {{userbox-2}} etc. templates should maintain the prefix "userbox", to illustrate that there are a template for creation, and not themselves a userbox. The "User_blah" format should be reserved for actual userboxes which people can put on their user-pages. Image:Anglo-indian.jpg Deano 22:33, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Agree - Basically same argument as above. {{User 1}} etc. should probably be initially redirected for early uptakers and then anyone linking to them be edited to point back at {{userbox}} etc. It will save on confusion in the longrun, I hope. --Grand Edgemaster _Talk 23:21, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Okay, the only intention was so that users could create one of these boxes on their userpage with the universal prefix. It is worth noting that these userboxes should not be used for other userbox templates, but mearly for users to create their own. Ian¹³_ID:540053 15:08, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Excuse me for interupting your debate, however I would like to know :

On Wikipedia:Userboxes we see that there are two ways of creating a userbox :

{{Userbox
  |border-c = border color
  |id-c     = side-box colour
  |id-s     = font size
  |id-fc    = font color
  |info-c   = main box colour
  |info-s   = font size
  |info-fc  = font color
  |id       = side-box content
  |info     = main box content
}}

or

 {{Userbox|side-box colour|main box colour|side-box content|main box content}}

the second has been standardised , so only the prefix user is required, are there any simalar plans for the first method? And one more thing: is there a way to change text colour in a userbox other than using the large template above?

--DTR 13:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, you can choose bits as you please. So {{Userbox|Green|Blue|Hi|Foo-Bar_Baz|info-fc=red}} makes:

I hope that helps! Ian¹³_ID:540053 20:43, 31 December 2005 (UTC)