Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Retailing

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I would note the following:

• A company's business model is a major source of criticism (e.g. importing from China → criticism about wages in China) so the criticism section should be just below the "business model" section.
• The philanthropy section should immediately follow, and should not need to be the same size. NPOV &neq; equal time for each POV. Criticism responses should be in the criticism section - for example "(criticism about wages in China → claims that the wages are actually quite good for the Chinese)" - which clearly does not belong in the philanthropy section.
• As is standard on Wikipedia, External links is seperate from Further Reading.

Yours, r3m0t ^talk 09:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I have made changes based off of what you have suggested. The External links vs. Further reading thing I got from WP:CITE#Further reading/external links, which suggests that it doesn't matter since you can read both printed and online material anyways. I suppose it would only matter depending on how many non-referenced works are listed in the article, and the personal style preference of the editor. Tuxide 23:18, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Newsletter just a little over the top 2 IRC 3 October 2006 newsletter 4 Project directory 5 Shopping malls

[edit] Newsletter just a little over the top

I think that the newsletter to the user talk pages is just a tad over the top. Here's why: most people who are involved in the project will have the page watchlisted, and therefore will be able to follow a newsletter posted to the project's talk page. Thoughts? SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:20, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

If we were to do another newsletter, should we make the user talk page thing opt-in, I suppose? I had no intention of doing another one unless we really want it or it was absolutely necessary, since bored people leave quickly. I got the idea from User:Caldorwards4's talk page, since he's the one that's subscribed to such a service. If you really want to know, I pulled off a September one primarily because I needed a quick and dirty way to streamline information for the first time, and it was easy for me to send it without using a bot since I was only messaging four people, excluding myself. What I am interested in knowing is, do we really want to keep it? This is open to feedback. Regards, Tuxide 04:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Opt-in, or just ditch it entirely for posting to user talk pages. I have no problem with the newsletter. I just think that here is a better place for it than in the user talk page. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Now that I think about it, opt-out might be better since anonymous users don't have watchlists. You can't take advantage of something that you don't know about, but then again that is the justification that all other spam uses. Oh well, for whoever it bothers (if any), you have my permission to remove the one I posted yesterday from your own talk page. Tuxide 04:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I've just noticed that WP:WPTC has an option that allows users to either be notified when a newsletter becomes available, or to have the whole newsletter be sent to them. There is also a mailing list. Tuxide 00:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

On a similar note, have you thought about making a template in the Wikipedia namespace (like as a subpage for the project) for users to place in their user space? This could be similar to what The Wikipedia Signpost does with their {{signpost-subscription}} template. This would allow users who subscribe to see it right on their userpages, and would probably be a lot less cumbersome to update. SchuminWeb (Talk) 08:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Like User:Tuxide/Sandbox/retailing-subscription or would rationale instead of a list of links be more useful? Tuxide 20:45, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

What you came up with seems to work. SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Done, all I have to do is move it into another namespace and put some instructions for posting. I've also created another page called Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/Noticeboard so other members can post their own notices as they wish (for example, links to discussions concerning major edits that need attention, etc.). As far as User:Tuxide/Sandbox/retailing-subscription, I am planning on moving it into the Template namespace unless anyone objects. Tuxide 16:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

{{retailing-subscription}} is now available. Tuxide 05:42, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IRC

Any of you use IRC (particularly freenode)? I don't know if any of you are interested, but you can usually find me on the #wikipedia channel. We could have a channel for our WikiProject Retailing, too. Tuxide 05:38, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] October 2006 newsletter

I have created Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/20061001 newsletter for October, although something needs to be put into it! Hrm... Now is your opportunity to put something in here and make your voice heard to the rest of the WikiProject. Feel free to edit it as you see fit, for real life is keeping me busy (university studies). When it's done, a link to it should go onto Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/Noticeboard. Regards, Tuxide 06:37, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Last call for additions/edits made to Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/20061001 newsletter. If nothing else, I will post it tonight.

I have created Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/20061101 newsletter for November, just as before. Again, its content is open for anyone to decide upon. I am quite busy in college, and I don't know if I'll have the time I need to add to this before the start of November. Regards, Tuxide 19:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I have created Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/20061201 newsletter for December, like the other two. If somebody could, please fill the newsletter with content for the time being. It is dead week in my university, so I probably won't be able to write one until after my finals next week. Regards, Tuxide 02:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shopping malls

Should shopping malls be covered under this project? They are covered under WikiProject Architecture, but most malls are composed of a group of retailers in the same area for convenience. Plus articles on individual shopping malls wikilink to articles under this project such as Macy's. --Geopgeop 08:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I think so, some of the more interesting shopping malls (such as Southdale Center) were started by retailing companies. Also, Category:Shopping malls is a subcategory of Category:Retailers. Tuxide 00:15, 16 November 2006 (UTC)