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September 9, 2006

If anyone sees edits to any articles regarding service changes set to occur on September 9, 2006, feel free to revert immediately. There is no source for this information. Articles that I've seen affected include D (New York City Subway service), T (New York City Subway service), R40 (New York City Subway car), R40A (New York City Subway car), and R68 (New York City Subway car). Keep an eye out on other articles, too; thanks. --Larry V (talk | contribs) 14:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

This person is repeatedly vandalizing these articles. Although there are numerous IP Addresses who are responsible, I think one person is soley to blame since he/she could be constantly changing computers or the IP Address of one computer is changing periodicly. Every single member of WikiProject: New York City Subway should add the following articles to their watchlist, B (New York City Subway service), Q (New York City Subway service), W (New York City Subway service), D (New York City Subway service), T (New York City Subway service), R40 (New York City Subway car), R40A (New York City Subway car), and R68 (New York City Subway car). We have to work together to stop this vandalism. The Legendary Ranger 23:36, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

NYCS Navbox

Any objections to adding Metrocard to the navbox? It would seem pretty logical to me. Alphachimp talk 23:58, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

No, it makes perfect sense. Great thinking! --Larry V (talk | contribs) 02:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Service changes on B/T/D?

The alleged September service changes on the B and D routes, and the alleged introduction of the T route, were once again added to the articles for those services today, without attribution. I reverted them.

Somebody is being very persistent. Marc Shepherd 13:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

"Persistent" is an understatement. Other articles affected include the following:
--Larry V (talk | contribs) 13:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
They've been added to my watchlist. Larry, are you making that subpage that the admin told you to? alphaChimp laudare 14:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
No one told me to do anything. I vaguely recall someone being told to do that, though… I'll look that up. --Larry V (talk | contribs) 14:02, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Someone, I thought it was you, was told to make a subpage documenting the attempted introduction of innacuracies into the nyct articles. That way, whenever one of us reported them to WP:AIV, we could just point a confused admin (with no background in subways) to the page. alphaChimp laudare 14:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
By the way, the warnings we ought to be using are {{subst:verror}} {{subst:verror2}} {{subst:verror3}} and {{subst:verror4}} alphaChimp laudare 14:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay, see User talk:Gimmetrow#Subway vandal. I'll get to working on that myself, though. --Larry V (talk | contribs) 14:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I created a page documenting the vandalism here. Gimmetrow 03:10, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the offending edits have come from at least three different IP addresses, suggesting that the offender has no fixed location from where he connects to the Internet. Marc Shepherd 14:57, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Heh. That's not to say that they can't all be reverted or blocked. This whole thing is irritating, but really not much more than that. We're on often enough that the impact should be minimal. alphaChimp laudare 15:19, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
The vandal could possibly be using an ISP that dynamically changes IP addresses (such as AOL). --Larry V (talk | contribs) 15:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
He's back. I'm proud to say I had the changes reverted within 10 minutes max =). alphaChimp laudare 00:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Who added info about T train service? That won't be around for 10-15 years, if ever! --imdanumber1 16:06, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

P.S. This IP user is doing it again! If there are such changes, it would be said so on the MTA site.

I created a page documenting the vandalism here. Gimmetrow 03:10, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


D (New York City Subway service)

The IP user, 152.163.100.68, has added unverifable contributions to the D (NYCS service) article. There are no such changes, as I have checked the MTA website for such G. Os. I am not sure how to revert his edits, or else I would. --imdanumber1 22:31, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Pictures

Great WikiProject here. I'm actually quite impressed at the quality of some of the station and line articles; I hadn't even thought such articles would exist. In any case, when checking out the pages of the train stops near where I live, it occurred to me that one thing which might improve the quality of these articles are pictures of the individual stations, or maybe a picture of the neighborhood in which the stations sit. I could take them if people are interested...would people be interested in that? -- Deville (Talk) 22:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Go for it. Pacific Coast Highway (blahSnakes on a Plane) 22:51, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Absolutely. Ideally, try to snap a photo that captures the station uniquely. Even where the articles have photos, sometimes it's just a picture of train tracks and a platform that could be anywhere. Marc Shepherd 01:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


So called September 9, 2006 subway changes

I wonder if anyone here is familiar with the changes made to several articles regarding Sept. 9, 2006 subway changes. At some point several IP users keep adding these so called changes to several articles, about how they will affect service, as well as what subway cars will be used. Luckily, after a while, some editors reverted them, only after a while they were doing it again. One editor showed me where they got these ridiculous ideas from, which was a talk page called SubTalk, where these changes were really fantasy (I'm surprised these IP users took it seriously).

I am glad these changes are on hiatus (for now), as I would have given up. But really, wouldn't they have just enough sense to go to the MTA website or ask them? Also, if these service changes were to take affect, it would happen on a Sunday or a Monday, and clearly, Sept. 9th is on a Saturday. However, for now, I have not seen much action from them; I often check on the articles that they edit (or in this case, vandalize). But if these changes were to take affect, I wouldn't be so surprised. --imdanumber1 05:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

The perpetrator is not a rational person. A rational person would back up the claim with a source, and would engage in a dialogue with others working on the subway project. The pertetrator hasn't had "enough sense to go to the MTA website or ask them," because the perpetrator doesn't care. Marc Shepherd 11:53, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
I created a page documenting the vandalism here. The Sept 9 vandalism is connected with another form of vandalism. Gimmetrow 12:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

That was the same thing I was saying to myself, Marc; If there are such changes, wouldn't the MTA let us know at least a couple of months in advance, as well as posting up notices in stations, and brochures depicting this? --imdanumber1 21:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

What is the URL for SubTalk. I want to take a look at it immediately to see what the hell is going on?The Legendary Ranger 23:53, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

SubTalk is no longer online. A very similar board is at http://www.subchat.com -- Cecropia 06:05, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I've semi-protected a few of the affected pages. I've already banned one of the vandal accounts. I intend to remove the protection after September 9. alphaChimp laudare 14:24, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Excellent alphaChimp. --imdanumber1 23:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

It' already September 9, 2006, and I just went on the subway and didn't see any service changes. I think we can unblock those users and unprotect the articles that were vandalized, but keep those articles on your watchlist because someone else might try to do the same thing, setting up a different date.The Legendary Ranger 16:26, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah, was just going to post a similar message like this myself. Stupid IP users! --Imdanumber1 ( Talk | contribs) 16:31, 9 September 2006 (UTC)