Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mixed martial arts/Event pages format

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[edit] Opinions

  • Two thumbs up. I like it very much. I don't agree on the TOC issue but I otherwise like the guidelines a great deal. Nothing to add at this time, great work. — Estarriol talk 09:54, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • One thumb up. I like it, although I'd would like to see a spoiler warning like they have on movies and such. I would also like to see the results being in a click down window if you know what I mean? I'm not sure whether that would work or look good, but maybe someone could check it out who knows more about formatting a page then me. Over and out, --NoNo 14:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To TOC or not to TOC

:* __NOTOC__ to hide table of contents, which are usually rather useless in these articles.

  • Comment - I disagree, no reason to hide the toc, especially when every match should definitely not have a separate subheader. ↪Lakes (Talk) 08:25, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree that we should not hide the TOC, but I like the idea of each fight having its own 4th level heading. — Estarriol talk 09:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
What advantage does the fourth level heading have? Can you give a more specific reason to have them?
Lakes (Talk) 10:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Sure, it makes them appear in the TOC - I actually think this is a good thing, demonstrates structure and allows readers to skip to fights that they may be interested in. The TOC is a Wikipedia standard, it's what users will be expecting and it can be hidden if they don't like it (even by a preference, whilst there's no preference to "always show TOC even when the article specifies not to have one). I think there are stronger reasons to have them than not. — Estarriol talk 11:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree that each fight should have it's own fourth level heading. So far I have been hiding the TOC on the basis that most articles are quite brief and they do not aid navigation at this point. When the event articles become more substantial I think they should be shown. -- Trench 20:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm setting the format one the page back to using 4-level heads for each fight to reflect majority opinion right now. Personally I'm a bit on Treach's side, I don't see the TOC to be that useful and its substantial size (horozontally) is bit of a considerable drawback. I'd like to see what discussions the pro wrestling wikiproject had however. hateless 05:57, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Just bear in mind that it's possible for a user to hide the TOC either temporarily, or permanently on every page, but if we use NOTOC, it's not possible for it to be shown at all. — Estarriol talk 07:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)