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[edit] New expansion of the pipe trick

As one of the two states to continue using parenthetical disambiguation, you may be interested to know about an expansion of the pipe trick. An example is probably best: go to M-15 (Michigan highway) and preview an addition of the text [[|M-20]]. The pipe trick now expands this to M-20. --NE2 21:29, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

There's nothing new about this at all. This was one of the primary reasons for using parenthetical disambiguation. The new feature in the pipe trick is that it will now work with titles that use comma disambiguation. older ≠ wiser 00:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Nope, this is brand new. Formerly you had to type [[M-20 (Michigan highway)|]]; now, on a page with (Michigan highway) in the title, you can type [[|M-20]] to get the same link. You may also be interested in the "debate" (more like clusterfuck) at WT:USSH. --NE2 00:18, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed your reply. OK, I think I see now what is different, but you have to be on a state page for that to work -- that's pretty confusing for the same piped link to produces one result on some pages and a different result on other pages. I don't think that is such a good thing. older ≠ wiser 16:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Concurrencies Redux

After looking at a few articles where the infobox has had concurrency information in it (ala M-69) I think that info should be laid out in the route description rather than the infobox since it tends to make a mess of things. Also, we might consider developing a new section for major concurrencies to be listed in the articles route description. I'd appreciate others input on this matter. Cheers. Stratosphere (U T) 22:44, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tips and Tricks

I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but I'll throw this out there since it'll save a lot of typing for those who don't. Recently the pipe trick has been modified to handle comma separated pages like those of cities. Typing [[Detroit, Michigan|]] will now produce: Detroit. Also, I don't know how long this has been around, but if a page has a parenthetical disambiguation within the title you can utilize the pipe trick to insert that same dab into a link. I used to type [[M-50 (Michigan Highway)|]] to link to M-50, but if you're on a M-XX (Michigan highway) page you can use the pipe trick on the left and type [[|M-50]] and it'll create a link to M-50 (Michigan highway) like so: M-50.

Anyway, if everyone knew all this already, then good. If not, hopefully this will help some people's hairs from staying not grey for a while longer. Cheers. Stratosphere (U T) 22:49, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

No, that is a new feature that I understand came in with the comma expansion. I'm not all that crazy about it from a usability perspective, since it means that typing the same link in different contexts will produce different results. But it seems obscure enough that only power-users will come across it. older ≠ wiser 22:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I meant for it to be useful to those of us editing Michigan highway articles wrt linking to other Michigan highway articles. Anyway, I see this was posted a few days ago two sections above, silly me ;) Stratosphere (U T) 23:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] M-87

Whilst sifting through the completion list, M-87 tripped me up and I was unable to find any decent information on it. The Michigan highway system page says M-87 was a link between US 10 and US 23 through Holly and Fenton. Holly and Fenton are both very close in proximity to US 23, while US 10 lies a good 60 miles northwest. $gajillion to whoever can dig up some information on this route and write an article. Stratosphere (U T) 09:04, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Eh, it finally dawned on me that US 10 extended down that direction many moons ago. Problem solved. Stratosphere (U T) 21:55, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Decommissioned trunklines & categories

Should we place them in both Category:Michigan state highways and Category:Decommissioned Michigan state highways or just the latter? Imzadi1979 08:39, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Another related question. The infobox template allows for listing a decommissioning date in addition to a commissioning date. For the highway designations that have only been used once, say M-554, would it be appropriate to infobox them, but include both dates. We could even use the altname= attribute to name them "Decommissioned State Highway". Do we dare set up a different route attribute instead of "M" for former highways that instead of just listing "M-554" in the top of the infobox would say "FORMER M-554", etc? Imzadi1979 22:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm in favor of using the alternate name to indicate it's decom. I don't think we want decom to be in the actual name since the article title doesn't have it, it might be confusing. If the highway is currently decom I think it should be in the Decom MSH category only, but that category should be within MSH category. Yes, I think it's also approriate to list the decom date as well. Stratosphere (U T) 23:42, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
I've gone and done a few... M-98, M-205, M-209 and M-554 are infoboxed. Any comments/suggestions/ideas? Imzadi1979 05:48, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] County-Designated Highways

Is there anyone interested in forming a subproject on the County-Designated Highways? I know I'm interested in working to create some articles, but I don't have a full and complete knowledge to set up the parameters with an infobox, etc. I know the shields are already all uploaded, waiting to be used. Do I hear any volunteers for maps? Imzadi1979 03:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 16 to go!

As I count it, we have 16 M-nn routes to write articles about. That just leaves the various business routes (Interstate/US) left to go. Imzadi1979 03:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, make that 15. I couldn't resist one last one for the night... Imzadi1979 03:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
All of the decommmissed routings are done! just 7 more current routings to write! Imzadi1979 00:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Done! Happy Thanksgiving! Imzadi1979 03:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Wow, fantastic! Great job to everyone who worked on getting that list completed! Cheers! Stratosphere (U T) 06:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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