Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Method engineering

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Welcome at the Method Engineering Encyclopedia (MEE). Feel free to discuss you editting or supplemental proposals over here.

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[edit] project page or encyclopedic article?

I'm not sure this is a proper Wikipedia article. I'm sure the MEE is a good project for Wikipedia but a page such as [[User:YourUsername/Method Engineering Encyclopedia]] would be more appropriate. The article page should be informative/encyclopedic. Correct me if I'm wrong. --moyogo

  • I agree with you. This information should be on a user-page, not an encyclopedia page. Victor Gijsbers 07:19, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • It shouldn't be here at all. Wikipedia is not a wiki hosting service. -- Cyrius|✎ 12:52, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
      • This is not an encyclopaedia article about a Method Engineering Encyclopaedia. It's a page for a project, entitled "Method Engineering". It does not belong in the main article namespace. I'm going to be bold. Uncle G 23:50, 2005 Apr 3 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia standards

And for goodness sake, please suggest your students read the Wikipedia:Tutorial so they know not to make cut&paste page moves, like was done from ISPL to Information Services Procurement Library, because it separates the page history from the content, and the Talk page, if one was created (I'll go merge the histories of those articles after I save this note--please let me know if any others need to be fixed); that articles should not start with headings (eg [1]); that section headers should be mostly lowercase, unless they include proper nouns; and the title of the article should be included in the intro, in bold text. Also, Wikipedia:Uploading images/Wikipedia:Image use policy--JPG (pictures) or PNG (diagrams), please, not GIF; and Wikipedia:Image copyright tags--images may be deleted if their copyright status is unknown. Also, no single person "owns" Wikipedia articles, so 'credits' (eg "This article is currently under construction by [person's name]) and 'signatures' (eg Niteowlneils 17:11, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)) are not appropriate in articles. Since "Freeband Business Blueprint" gets only 4 google hits, only 1 of which is in English, it seems like Freeband Business Blueprint is either mistitled, or original research, which Wikipedia articles should not be. Niteowlneils 17:11, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Many related articles are lacking proper intros and wikilinks--I recommend also viewing the Wikipedia:Annotated article for style ideas. Niteowlneils 18:08, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Though Niteownlneils is quite correct; I would like say that I for one very much appreciate you using Wikipedia for your project. Some of the content that has been added has been very good. Wikipedia could certainly do with an improvement to its project management articles. If you have any questions about producing this project within Wikipedia, please free to write them here and you will receive replies.
I have created the category of method engineering to keep track of the articles that are produced. See bottom of the page:ChrisG 12:55, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Project contributors?

  • User:Jorrit
  • User:Wesleyidmaur
  • User:Jaapdt
  • User:Lichen0426
  • User:Pumpkincat (probably also [2])
  • User:Aasch
  • User:Siebevanschalkwijk
  • User:Ivs
  • User:Okok- Fagan Inspection

(guessing from various page histories, in no particular order) Niteowlneils 18:08, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia standards

Hello everybody. Questions have arisen (see here and here) as to the conformity of this project's articles with key Wikipedia policies, such as

Content that fails to conform to these policies may be proposed for deletion by anyone as per the deletion policy. However, it appears that this project is producing high-quality bona fide content which could (and does already) contribute substantially to the encyclopedia and should thus be saved from deletion. For this reason, I suggest that the project's participants:

  1. Read up on Wikipedia policies, particularly the ones cited above, as well as the five pillars of Wikipedia.
  2. Read some featured articles and the Manual of Style to get a feel for how scientific content is most suitably displayed on Wikipedia.
  3. Work on improving the articles according to the policies, in particular by:
    1. to prevent WP:OR and WP:POV, making sure that what you are talking about is the state of the art in a notable, accepted branch of your science and not your synthesis of various proposals or even your own ideas and methods,
    2. citing sources, e.g. using WP:FOOTNOTEs,
    3. moving content that will always be "how-to", e.g. how to manage this or that business process, to Wikibooks, a sister project suitable for such content.

Best regards, Sandstein 05:25, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Do you think this is the best place?

  1. Would all people from Utrecht who contribute, please mark their articles (on the talk page or edit summary) with a link to this project page? That will greatly help in enabling us to apply a consistent policy to these articles.
  2. Having said that, I strongly recommend that you review whether this is the right place for your project. You describe yourselves as researchers and, time and time again it has been stated no original research is allowed on Wikipedia. I think you might be happier creating your own Wiki on a server at the University of Utrecht. -- RHaworth 10:52, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I have now started Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Method Engineering Encyclopedia. I hope it will receive plenty of attention so that we can obtain a clear consensus on this project. -- RHaworth 13:02, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cent

There is now a centralized discussion covering the question of this project and any related pages. Please comment. John Reid 13:43, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 00:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

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