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Contents 1 Articles for all kun 2 Sinanju 3 Aho-dong 4 Sinpo/Sinp'o/Sinpho 5 Kaesŏn? 6 Naming conventions

[edit] Articles for all kun

The following North Korean kun currently have articles: Sonbong, Samjiyon, Nyongbyon, Kilchu. --Reuben 07:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, guess we've got a lot of work ahead of us. I've added a few more; as I go forward, I'm probably going to follow the model I've used on Kyongsong (North Korea): translate from the KO version, add infobox, and append Template:Baekgwa so that we have a notion of the coverage that's out there. It is problematic that most of the KO articles are unsourced... -- Visviva 03:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Looks good! The "administrative divisions" link is to Administrative divisions of South Korea, though. --Reuben 06:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Heh heh... fixed now. -- Visviva 14:12, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the status report, Reuben. And also for being so kind as to suggest that I have a "scheme." I'm afraid my own practice in naming has been less than consistent. Actually, in view of the fact that North Korea does not use diacritics in its MR-based system, I think we need to revisit some provisions of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean)... since we follow the South Korean system more or less to the letter, at least for administrative divs, it only makes sense that we should do the same for North Korea. That's a question for Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Korean), of course -- a page where I recently advocated exactly the opposite approach. Ah well, live and learn.  :-) -- Visviva 14:18, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Wow, I see you finished off North Hamgyong. Awesome! --Reuben 17:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Current status: have stubbed out all secondary divs in the eastern coastal provinces (Kangwon and the Hamgyongs). I reckon Ryanggang and Chagang are next, at least for me, then down the west side. -- Visviva 15:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sinanju

Is Sinanju a significant place? It gets some Korean War-related hits on Google, but it doesn't show up on the list of si or gun. Perhaps it's just an ŭp or a tong? --Reuben 08:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aho-dong

Aho-dong (아호동) appears to be a tong in Haewŏl-myŏn (해월면), Paech'ŏn-kun (배천군), South Hwanghae, North Korea. We don't generally have articles for tong or myŏn, and we don't even have an article yet for Paech'ŏn-kun. I suspect that the Aho-dong article may have been started just because it showed up as a place name on some online weather maps near the DMZ. But since it is such a minor locality, we may never have enough information about it to flesh out the article, leaving it therefore in perpetual orphan status. Can anybody find more info on it? --Reuben 18:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sinpo/Sinp'o/Sinpho

I saw Visviva's comment about using the official "Sinpho" instead of "Sinpo". Personally, I find this h-for-' convention quite unhelpful. Wikipedia is free to use whatever naming conventions are familiar and/or convenient for English speakers, whether they match the official recommendations or not, and in this case, I think it's best to stick with regular McCune-Reischauer. --Reuben 04:21, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough, but note the precedent of Nampho. -- Visviva 12:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kaesŏn?

Kaesŏn and Kaeson both redirect to Kaechon. I can't find anything about that as an alternate name, though. Most of the web hits for Kaeson seem to be misspellings of Kaesong. There's also a street in Pyongyang, but that doesn't appear to be connected with Kaechon. Should the redirects be moved to Kaesong? Or is there more to this? --Reuben 06:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Having some experience with the originator of those pages, I think it was probably just a mistake. A redirect to Kaesong would be an improvement, I think; that's a fairly likely typo. -- Visviva 08:50, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Update: judging from the page history, the redirect is simply left over from a move; the article was originally at Kaesŏn; however, it does not seem likely that anyone else would make that mistake, so I'm changing the redirects to Kaesong. -- Visviva 08:55, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming conventions

Hi all,

I'd like to revisit our naming conventions for North Korean topics. Please voice an opinion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Korean)#North Korea. Happiness, -- Visviva 06:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)