Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Horticulture and Gardening
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[edit] New Project
I'm starting this project because the horticultural categories are rather disorganised. I'm fairly new to wiki, but not to horticulture. (Please help set up the project page!) As well as looking for experienced wikipedians, I'm also recruiting from web forums, where there are some people with great expertise and knowledge on gardening subjects. SB Johnny 14:10, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Is it proper form to simply delete a bunch of the boilerplate that's not being used? It's rather ungraceful at the moment... I suppose things could just be added back in later. SB Johnny 14:35, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Adding Category Tags
In the Organic Garden category, many pages are linked from the main article page, but do not have the category tag. Should they be added? SB Johnny 13:59, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cleaning up Organic link pages
(Moved from the main project page)
Clean up Category:Organic_gardening. There is also a page linked on the Organic_gardening page of related pages, which should probably go on the category page. That page is here: List_of_organic_gardening_and_farming_topics.
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- I disagree as the 'list of' page (albeit created by myself, in the days before we had wikipedia categories) is organised much more systematically than a category page, which is purely alphabetical, for further discussion see Talk:List_of_organic_gardening_and_farming_topics
- I also think the list is very useful, and should be actively maintained. Future WP features, along the lines of Categories, may eventually make this type of organized page redundant, but at present, with so much spawning of "subarticles" and also proposals to merge, this gives a great overview of the broad topic that helps both in locating info (readers) and planning (editors). --Tsavage 18:03, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe a good approach would be to put the category tags on the bottom of those pages as well? This would allow a nice redundancy.SB Johnny 11:55, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- Just to add the "official" sentiments: Wikipedia:Categories,_lists,_and_series_boxes. SB Johnny 16:20, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- I also think the list is very useful, and should be actively maintained. Future WP features, along the lines of Categories, may eventually make this type of organized page redundant, but at present, with so much spawning of "subarticles" and also proposals to merge, this gives a great overview of the broad topic that helps both in locating info (readers) and planning (editors). --Tsavage 18:03, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree as the 'list of' page (albeit created by myself, in the days before we had wikipedia categories) is organised much more systematically than a category page, which is purely alphabetical, for further discussion see Talk:List_of_organic_gardening_and_farming_topics
[edit] Subcategory for garden pests?
Might be good to have one... I've started putting some tags for garden pests to the Horticulture category. SB Johnny 16:02, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikibooks
I've seen several discussion pages regarding the "how-to" quality of some horticulture and gardening articles. Perhaps cleaning some of these up to me more encyclopedic would be a good idea, with links to wikibooks that can go into greater detail about how-to information? SB Johnny 10:30, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Articles for the Wikipedia 1.0 project
Hi, I'm a member of the Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing using these criteria, and we are looking for A-class, B-class, and Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Can you recommend any suitable articles? Please post your suggestions here. Cheers, Shanel 20:48, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge proposal
I though members of this project could pitch in at Talk:Pruning about the proposal to merge Pruning fruit trees into that article. Circeus 22:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] New wikibook (to ease transwiking)
I've created a new wikibook called b:A Wikimanual of Gardening on our sister site, in the hopes of clearing up the "how-to" problems involved with many of the plant and garden pages. I will watch this book and try to keep on top of it, but help would be greatly appreciated. For information on transwiking to this book, please see the chapter b:A_Wikimanual_of_Gardening/How_to_Transwiki_Information_to_this_Book
I'm cross-posting this on the Plants project as well. SB Johnny 17:22, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Native Gardening Societies...
OK, shall we list native gardening soiceties on the native gardening page or is there a list elsewhere (tried a wikisearch..) cheers Cas Liber 05:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- Looks like a couple are there at the bottom as external links. Might be a list somewhere without a category tag, but if not, might be nice to have a separate page. SB Johnny 13:49, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Hortibox" template?
I've been thinking for a while now that some sort of box (like the taxobox) might be good to have for garden plants. Maybe the following fields:
- Hardiness zones (and other zones)
- Sunlight requirements (sun/shade/etc.)
- Soil requirements (would be good to come up with some sort of standard notation, might need more than one field on this including drainage, fertility, pH, etc.)
- Water requirements (some range between xeric and wetland)
- Growing season (especially for food crops)
- Chilling period
- Propogation methods (seed, cutting, division, etc... again, good to have some standard notation)
Sound good? Am I leaving something out? Anyone know how to make templates? SB Johnny 17:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- heh heh, I just responded on your Talkpage but I'll add the relevant comments here:
- MPF has brought up some points about Hardiness zones that I think we should consider. For his specific comments see my Talkpage and the Hardiness zones article. In short, it might be best to list temp. ranges rather than HZ ratings.
- I'm wondering if we should include specifics about Growth Rate and Life Expectancy?
- All the other info you proposed looks excellent. I'm excited about this idea and I think it could add a lot of useful info and some much-needed consistency :)
- Aw dang, I was hoping you knew how to make tamplates! Any idea who we might turn to? MPF seems to have some experience...Doc Tropics 17:34, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Managed to cobble something together. See it here.
[edit] User Box
Hi, I have made a User Box feel tree to use it Template:User WikiProject Horticulture and Gardening
Any objections to me putting it on the project page? (Unsigned comment by user:Lynnathon)
- None here... nice box!SB Johnny 10:41, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lawn article
Hi there, I just had a quick scan through the lawn article and it requires quite abit of work. It needs to be globalised as at the moment it mainly focuses on United States lawns. Have a look and see what you think, I have put this on my to do list but would welcome any help...... many thanks Lynnathon 21:27, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Book category?
Hi folks! I wandered over while sorting out non-fiction books. I don't know what gardening-book articles may be lurking out there, but do you think there are enough books about botany/horticulture/gardening etc. to merit a sub-cat? Currently we have Cat:Agriculture books, but it's very underpopulated. ♥ Her Pegship♥ 15:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Categories for deletion
Do the project members here have any constructive advice with regard to the following category that is up for deletion: Freshwater aquarium plants? David D. (Talk) 23:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed merger of Native gardening and Wildflower garden articles
Hye guys, much of these two articles are the same and I think a bigger article encompassing the ideals of both is a great idea, there is a vote on on the discussion page of Native gardening. cheers. Cas Liber 23:22, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikibooks project started
Hi all,
Just in case anyone's been wondering, my horticultural writing has been mostly on wikibooks these days, as it's just a lot easier to write on gardening topics in a "how-to-friendly environment". If anyone wants to work on this, there's plenty to do in A Wikimanual of Gardening.
I'm mostly working on pages about weeds, sometimes transwikiing wp articles and modifying them (e.g.:A Wikimanual of Gardening/Trifolium repens), other times starting from scratch (e.g.:A Wikimanual of Gardening/Hydrocotyle sibthorpioides).
The "hortibox" template -- which ran into resistance here from the tree of life people -- is now in use by some chapters over there, e.g. A Wikimanual of Gardening/Iris sibirica. There are also templates for weeds, trees, and weedcontrol, more are in the works. --SB_Johnny|talk|books 11:34, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Project directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 23:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stablepedia
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- See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team#Stablepedia. If you wish to comment, please comment there. ★TWO YEARS OF MESSEDROCKER★ 03:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Proposed merger of Native gardening and Natural landscaping articles
Hey guys, much of these two articles are the same and I think a bigger article encompassing the ideals of both is a great idea, there is a vote on on the discussion page of Native gardening. Natural landscaping is probably the broader term though I have not heard it used as such in Australia.Cas Liber 10:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
