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[edit] Stub template

Aloha from the other side of Polynesia! (I'm in New Zealand). You may have noticed a comment on the Hawaii stub template saying that it's up for deletion. Don't worry - the template that is up for deletion is not {{Hawaii-stub}}, but is a redirect for it, {{HI-stub}} - Hawaii-stub is not up for deletion. The redirect is because there is a general guideline of removing any ambiguous or misleading stub template names, including many that contain two or three letter abbreviations. Although HI is a valid abbreviation for Hawaii, it could also be the abbreviation for many other things, and since it's only a redirect it's seen as "surplus to requirements". Grutness...wha? 11:51, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome Mibo!

Mibo has contributed some good material to the Hula article, which could still use a lot of work, but is making some progress. Articles re famous teachers and halaus, as well as the many current hula competitions, would be nice. Zora 21:42, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge?

I think List of people from Hawaii needs to be merged with List of famous people from Hawaii.Gmosaki 05:23, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Merge completed as of 10:34, 1 February 2006 by User:Aoi. —Viriditas | Talk 11:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hawaiian Hometown Heroes (Fishponds)

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- Ron Takata: - Dr. Ron Takata, Professor, Honolulu Community College,
- strives to get students interested and motivated in chemistry so that they will learn it on their own. ... - - NOTE: Ron's hands-on Mainland workshops (for K-12 Earth Science teachers) have proven to be highly effective benchmarks for activity-based learning methods. -

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- * Center for Environmental Education (CGEE) - - Please contribute reusable visual learning objects
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- - Also see:
- - * Wyban, Carol Araki (1992)Tide and Current: Fishponds of Hawai'I
- University of Hawaii Press [1] :: ISBN 0-82481-396-0 1992 Edition - - Plus: Interpretive materials for Huilua Fishpond at Kahana Valley State Park - *Ahupua'a 'O Kahana State Park Windward Oahu, Hawaii - - geoWIZard @ http://FutureThought.info -
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- - Option: Alter caption to focus on how vertical dimensions affect ocean layers, tides & currents! - - ===Editorial Reviews=== - Book Description:
- This well-crafted story collection clearly reflects the author's - entrepreneurial experiences rebuilding and then operating a productive Hawaiian - Island fishpond on Oahu's North Shore. It presents a rare combination of lyric prose and art that capture the ecological truths Carol Wyban, her family - with their Hawaiian friends and neighbors - discovered how to adapt to the mid-Pacific Ocean's ebb and flow. - - TIDE and CURRENT: Fishponds of Hawaii shares hard-won insights with practical - lessons "re-learned" about both natural forces and political land use policies. - Its acknowledgements begin with this simple Hawaiian saying: "Aia ke ola ka - hana" meaning . . . Life is in labor. - - This book reflects facts from prior Aquaculture research done by J.A. Wyban and - J.N. Sweeney that resulted in publishing a 1991 report on Intensive Shrimp Production Technology: The Oceanic Institute Shrimp Manual.
- The Oceanic Institute, Hawaii, USA, 158 pp. - - As a state-owned pond on Moloka'i, `Ualapu`e was selected by the state to be a - model Aquaculture project. Carol Wyban's book describes more about this effort - on p.154 - - While profit and economic development utilizing modern Aquaculture techniques - are major long-term goals, equally important goals are the revitalization of - traditional Hawaiian fishpond practices and the preservation of the history, - culture, and values associated with `Ualapu`e. - - Visit the University of Hawaii's WebSite for more oral history on fishpond - restoration projects. - * University of Hawai`i System - Reviewer: Bob-RJ Burkhart from Shawnee, Kansas - USA
- Illustrated stories of Hawaiian Fishpond Lifestyles . . ., November 7, 1999
- - From the Author: (Carol Ann Wyban) - "Fishponds are living cultural treasures. I see them as important springboards - for education, because they give us the opportunity to explore the way - Hawaiians used the land and water." -
RJBurkhart 19:06, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

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== Earth Science Bibliography ==


RJBurkhart 14:02, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Preserving & Protecting Waters to the Sea

United Nations Envionment Programme ...

Learn more about Biogeography at East-West Center

Keyword search results for usable related resources:


RJBurkhart 14:11, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Music of Hawaii

I've been working on music of Hawaii for awhile now, and think it's getting quite good. I'll probably put it on PR sometime in the next couple weeks, so if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. Tuf-Kat 08:57, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Legal status of Hawaii

Template:Legal status of Hawaii has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you.

A nice infobox, but way too big in screen space for a multi-article template in my opinion. I've recommended substing into the Legal status of Hawaii article and replacing in the other articles that use it with links. Caerwine Caerwhine 02:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team cooperation

Hello. I'm a member of the Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing articles using these criteria, and we are are asking for your help. As you are most aware of the issues surrounding your focus area, we are wondering if you could provide us with a list of the articles that fall within the scope of your WikiProject, and that are either featured, A-class, B-class, or Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Do you have any recommendations? If you do, please post your suggestions at the listing of all active Places WikiProjects, and if you have any questions, ask me in the Work Via WikiProjects talk page or directly in my talk page. Thanks a lot! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 18:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spending ten days on Maui

I am spending ten days on Maui from 4/14 through 4/24. Please let me know what photo submissions or articles you have. I will be there with a Nikon D70, a Nikon D200, underwater kit for the Nikons, and my trusty Cybershot. On top of that, I'm armed with the de rigeur travel guides -- lonely planet, frommers, and Maui Revealed. While I haven't contributed to the Hawaii project since the last time I went (about a year ago), I have contributed articles on landmarks (such as Makapuu and on temples such as Kea'iwa Heiau). I'll be heading to Haleakala of course, as a haole tourist. But I intend to see more of the esoteric spots than your average tourist.

Please let me know on my talk page, or at avriette@gmail.com. I will be uploading photos to my flickr site, http://flickr.com/photos/avriette/ while there. I should have internet access at the hotel (which is more than I can say for my home!).

Mahalo, Alex ... aa:talk 05:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cane Toad

I am currently trying to bring Cane Toad to featured article status. I am slowly getting there, but I am having problems with the "Introduction to Hawaii" section. It is very lacking, and I was wondering whether someone here could expand it. Being from Australia, it is very hard to get my hands on any info about Cane Toad introductions, other than the Australian experience, which is not just two or three sentences. I will be creating another section called: "Other Introductions", as I don't want to have a seperate section for all the introductions, and most countries have not as serious problems as Austrlaia and Hawaii. Thanks --liquidGhoul 05:21, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible article?

There's a concept from the 1960's, apparently, called "Greater Hawaii", referred to in 51st state. I have no idea what the proposals or ideas then-extant were, or I'd write about it myself. If anyone knows anything about it, an article would be great... Cheers, Tomertalk 09:34, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History buff needed

Please check out List of current and former capital cities in the United States and make sure that Hawaii's capital cities are listed accurately. A word of warning: the page does contain quite a bit of complicated wiki formatting, so if you're not comfortable editing it, just post your changes on the talk page and someone more experienced will apply them to the article. JEK 19:48, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nominate articles for Portal:United States

I've worked for the past month to update Portal:United States and keep it better maintained. Though, I think the Portal:United States would be even better with broader participation. One way to do that is instead of choosing the "selected article" myself each week, if others would nominate articles and help make decisions. (same goes for pictures, though these are stocked up through July 29) If there is anything related to Hawaii (or anything else related to the U.S. - culture, music, literature, geography, history, politics, ...), please nominate. I'd also like people to weigh in on the nominations and help select what should be featured. Thanks. --Aude (talk contribs) 23:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] article tagging

Would you be interested in having User:WatchlistBot tag articles in the Hawaii project? It already updates the project watchlist of articles that are already tagged. It recently went through categories, and tagged many Hawaii related categories which were not previously tagged. I could run it to tag all articles in those categories. Let me know if this would be a useful thing (it would make your project _much_ bigger). Ingrid 19:50, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Task appears complete as of 13 December 2006. I missed Ingrid's original offer, but she was kind enough to ask again. We need to name an award after her. According to WatchlistBot, there are 1885 Hawaii-related pages: 1667 articles, 155 categories, 49 images, 11 templates, and 3 tagged project pages. —Viriditas | Talk 11:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Invite

Wanted to let you know that WP:BIOGRAPHY has added a "work group" called Politics and government, and so wanted to invite you to participate on any biography-type articles. The section for HI is here and if there's interest, we can beef it up to look like the newly-created Virginia one plange 05:20, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm interested in adding this workgroup to the WPH template. —Viriditas | Talk 11:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Collab

Is Hula a constant collaboration, or is there some collaboration of the week/fortnight/month/etc., and hula is just this time period's collab? Thanks. --Ali'i 19:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Project has been inactive, and is undergoing an update. —Viriditas | Talk 11:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transcription of Hawaiian

In the German Wikipedia there's a new Manual of Style for Hawaiian: de:Wikipedia:Namenskonventionen/Hawaiianisch. Maybe that's an incentive to have a Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Hawaii-related articles) here. Aloha. ThT 17:17, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, this is a priority. Also need Wikipedia:WikiProject Hawaii/Style guidelines. —Viriditas | Talk 11:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added Coco Palms article

Hey, I'm from Ohio and recently visited your great state of Hawaii last June. I want to announce that I created an article on the great Coco Palms Resort in Kauai. If you need any help on anything Kauai and I'll see what I can do. Spongefan 1:53, October 18 2006 (UTC)

We need photos. The damaged hotel is still intact (saw it a month ago) as the article notes. —Viriditas | Talk 11:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation to new WikiProject

A new WikiProject has been started, and may be of interest to members here. It is WikiProject National Register of Historic Places. It covers all listings on the Register, in all states and territories. Should you be so inclined, please feel free to join. And spread the word to any other interested parties. -Ebyabe 19:39, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 18:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Update in progress. Might take a few days. —Viriditas | Talk 11:14, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment system, and typo on the project page

Hi,

  • I'll toss out an idea to see if it finds any approval. I was wondering if this WikiProject would like to have an Assessment System, following the Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team's system. It would provide an opportunity for interested contributors to assess any article in the WikiProject. An example of how this would look can be found at the Ethnic groups articles by quality assessment table. I've done this before; I could set it up in a couple hours.
  • Also on the project page, {{Toc}} is incorrect; it should be {{TOC}} (if that's what you want).
  • I'll wait about a week for responses; in this case I'll take "no response" to equal "no."

Later, --Ling.Nut 21:42, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Please don't wait a week; just go ahead and do it. Thanks for helping out. —Viriditas | Talk 22:31, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the strong support of the suggestion, Viriditas. :-) I'd wanna have some idea that the plan is OK with the consensus of members, or at least with more than one... don't wanna blindside anyone with a major, unannounced project... but thanks again!--Ling.Nut 22:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
No problem. I understand your concern, but the project isn't very active, and I can't imagine any good reason why anyone would oppose your work, since it is neither controversial nor problematic, which is why I doubt consensus is required, but please, proceed at your own desired pace. If I can be of any help, please do not hesitate to ask. —Viriditas | Talk 23:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
OK, I'll get a start on it tonight... and if anyone objects to the idea, then we can get an admin to delete the categories I create. Cheers! --Ling.Nut 23:57, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
IF the bot hasn't run yet (it may have) results will be here (please do not edit this):
Hawaii
articles		 Importance
Top High Mid Low None Total
Class
Featured article FA 4 2 6
A 1 1 1 3
Good article GA 1 1 2
B 13 12 3 2 30
Start 8 14 43 28 4 97
Stub 2 8 19 44 327 400
Unassessed 5 1115 1120
Total 24 40 68 77 1449 1658
  • --Ling.Nut 01:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  • If this works I'll need an admin's help...--Ling.Nut 03:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  • IT worked (see above); you can see the test version of new WikiProject Hawaii banner box at Talk:spam musubi. Look at the drop-down menu for the "To Do"; you can see the full table at Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Hawaii_articles_by_quality. There are no comments associated with spam musubi; there should be. I'll see what's wrong...
  • I need an admin to delete the current banner template & its talk, and move the test version from my sandbox to the same name as the current version. Then there are three or four cleanup details to be taken care of; maybe some else can do those (they involve editing regular pages, not fooling with templates or categories...)
  • Enjoy!
  • Even tho 'm not from Hawaii and know nothing about it, there is one Hawaiian thing I know about ('cause I'm studying linguistics). I'll write an article about it during/after Christmas break. I'll join the WikiProject now, too.
  • --Ling.Nut 12:44, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I can help out, but why do you need an admin to delete the template? Just copy and paste the new code, and make a note your in the edit summary? Am I missing something? Let me know which tasks you need completed, and I'll help out. —Viriditas | Talk 20:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Several points:
  1. My understanding is that it's a no-no to copy/paste in these situations, since the Talk page exists already, etc.. To follow the letter of the (guideline, rule, whatever), the existing template and its talk should be deleted, then the sand box moved, then finally (and perhaps optionally) the redirect where the sandbox was should be deleted... We also need to replace the existing banner page's Talk with explanatory text anyhow (see below).
  2. To do (editing):
    1. Copy Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Assessment. Modify it to meet the needs of this project (esp. remove text about "needs-infobox", since this project doesn't have one; plus also alter the text about what makes something top-high-mid-low importance). Put the modified text here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Assessment Wikipedia:WikiProject Hawaii/Assessment
    2. Do the same for Template talk:Ethnic groups; place modified version on the talk page of the WikiProject Hawaii banner.
    3. Fix the talk pages of the two articles I experimented on (or I can do that, but we shouldn't forget).
    4. Hmm I think that's it, unless I remember something else. Cheers! --Ling.Nut 21:20, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
In this instance, it's ok to copy and paste your code from your sandbox, because all you are doing is updating the template from your user space. Simply place a delete tag on your userspace sandbox page, requesting a temp page deletion. Copy and pasting from userspace to a template for this reason, and in this instance, is ok. —Viriditas | Talk 21:45, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Are you sure? To speak plainly, I wanna go for an WP:RFA in 6 or 8 months, and I don't want any black marks against me I really wanna follow the guidelines related to GFDL.
  • Besides, does that also hold true for blanking out the existing Talk page and replacing it with the guidelines for use? --Ling.Nut 21:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
There's no reason to blank anything. Simply archive old talk, link to it, and add the new guidelines. All you are essentially doing is updating the template. —Viriditas | Talk 22:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Ah, the talk page was just a copy of the template anyway! And it was a year old. So I archived it. I also updated the WikiProject banner, as discussed. I'll fix the two Talk pages I experimented with. That leaves all the aforementioned editing for you... the Talk page of the banner is empty at the moment, as is ... Wikipedia:WikiProject Hawaii/Assessment.. Will you do those things? --Ling.Nut 23:10, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you want me to do. Can you leave me a message on my talk page? Thanks. —Viriditas | Talk 00:12, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject page formatting

Made some changes to the formatting of the main project page. May make more. Revert if you don't like. Cheers!--Ling.Nut 20:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template

This whole template business is getting bizarre. Adding them by bot is a BAD IDEA -- you end up putting them places where they don't belong. Also, having a huge centered template at the top of talk pages means that the first screen on the talk page is nothing but template. The template should either be LONG and skinny, no more than 1/2 to 1 inch deep, or it should be a small box justified left. By the time various groups finish adding their templates, you have to scroll endlessly to find the first discussion. If people are interested, they'll come here. If they're not, bludgeoning them with a huge template is just a waste of space and readers' time. Zora 00:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I want to apologize. I take full responsbility for causing any confusion. If you look up above, Ingrid graciously offered to tag all articles in Category:Hawaii, except that I missed her original message. She offered again, and now all Hawaii-related articles appear to be tagged. This will enable the project to assess each article (a system that Ling.Nut was kind enough to implement) as well as maintain the workload. Help is needed setting up departments and formatting the project page. There's a lot of work to do, and I would like to see active members choose a specialty or combination of interests (such as Hawaii history, politics, bios, geography, music, etc.) and knock out at least 10 assessments per day. I'm in the process of setting up and adding the proper administrative categories. Ingrid's bot made it possible to even get to this point, so we should worship her as a goddess. Along with Zora, of course. —Viriditas | Talk 09:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Hi Zora, I went to your userpage. Is your cat Mehitabel named after Archy and Mehitabel?
  • If you don't like the template, and if you know how to edit templates, you could change the existing one to have a "small" option, see Wikipedia:Talk page templates#Small option.
  • I didn't add the templtes by bot, and... I dunno anything about bots putting templates in the wrong place.. WP:AWB which is not actually a bot, but it makes prepending things to a talk page easy...
  • I do get tired of people using ALL CAPS to MAKE A POINT, and using loaded adjectives like "bizarre" which are typically precursors to a flamewar. You seem to have been around a long time. I hope you'll express yourself a bit more considerately next time... some of us are frazzled enough as it is. Just a thought.
  • Thanks --Ling.Nut 00:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, you're right -- I am exhausted and cranky today. Templates in the wrong place? A couple of guys used a bot to put Project India on any articles that contained the word India, which resulted in numerous Persian, Pakistani, Bengadeshi, etc. articles being claimed for India and led to some angry words. If I ask nicely -- can YOU cut the template down to, say, 200 X 200 px or something like that? and set it to right rather than center? I'm OK at wikifying regular prose but I'm still slow and clumsy with tables and templates. Zora 03:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

In this case, the bot only tagged articles in Category:Hawaii. I would generally oppose any major changes to the template, except for replacing the image with a clear icon. Zora, if you want to customize how you view the template, this should be possible by modifying your settings. You might need someone to add a line of code for you. I can help find someone to do this for you, if you like. See also: Help:User style. —Viriditas | Talk 09:57, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and my cat is named after Archie and Mehitabel. However, she is not toujours gai. She is the noisiest cat I have ever owned, and she wanders the house complaining about I know not what. Vet says she's fine, she's just noisy. Zora 03:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I can work on it, but it willl be a while. I have finals 'til the 16th, then.... mmm my to do list is long and I have relatives to visit for Christmas. But I'll get to it some time or other
Archy and Mehitabel are cool :-) --Ling.Nut 03:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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