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Today's Gastroenterology collaboration is Gastric varices

Contents 1 Welcome to the Endosopy Unit 2 Template size 3 SEMS 4 Erythema nodosum 5 CD path 6 Coeliac... please 7 More on Crohn's 8 Endoscopic foreign body retrieval 9 One more 10 Football sign or Riggler's sign 11 Another DYK 12 Defecation and the Welles step 13 Ulcerative colitis 14 Sengstaken-Blakemore tube 15 Ulcerative colitis photo 16 Toothbrush in stomach 17 Crohn's disease 18 And coeliac disease 19 HRS 20 Bow and arrow sign 21 DYK 22 Project directory 23 WP:MEDMOS needs YOU!

[edit] Welcome to the Endosopy Unit

The Endo Unit is now open!

Welcome to Wikiproject Gastroenterology, and I hope we can improve the quality of luminal GI and liver related articles, as well as add to the database of articles.

The current collaboration is Crohn's disease; I think we'll try to hit up one collaboration a month for now.

Your comments are invited. -- Samir धर्म 08:16, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template size

The current template shown on the project page is comprehense but is quite long. Might I suggest at least some abbreviations: drop the words 'disease' and 'syndrome' from some of the entries. Hence Crohn's disease becomes Crohn's. David Ruben ^Talk 09:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Good suggestions. The template (I'm guessing JFW's creation) contains a lot of great topics, but there's certainly a lot that could be added by compression a bit -- Samir धर्म 07:46, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SEMS

Self-expanding metallic stent is an article asking to be made. We use these for palliation of esophageal, biliary and colonic tumours. I've got a couple of great pics (one endoscopic and one fluoroscopic):
-- Samir धर्म 07:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

There already is article Stent, does this not mostly cover the same topic ? I agree expansion on discussing specific types of stent and conditions for which they are used is possible - added pictures to an otherwise bland stent article would be good . David Ruben ^Talk 12:38, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, read over the stent article, but it seemed more like a broad catch-all. SEMS are really more specific for GI luminal applications (vs. coronary stents, etc.) Will start something up after Crohn's is done with. Cheers -- Samir धर्म 20:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Erythema nodosum

Does anyone have a picture? Would be great for the Crohn's disease article. -- Samir धर्म 09:25, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CD path

Also a path pic for Crohn's would be good. I think I scanned some from a patient for a case report once, but they are poor resolution -- Samir धर्म 09:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coeliac... please

Shall we make coeliac disease the next collaborative article. It is presently a bit of an evidence vacuum. JFW | T@lk 13:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Sure! Was it really a WP:FA candidate? -- Samir धर्म 13:45, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More on Crohn's

Please help identify things we need for the article. My thoughts:

• De-jargonify a bit...
• Extraintestinal manifestation pic (preferable E nodosum)
• Consistency in emphasis (boldface?)
• Section on ongoing research (ASCT, IL-2, antigren, etc.)

-- Samir धर्म 13:45, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Circeus has helped out admirably with suggestions on the talk page -- Samir धर्म 00:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Endoscopic foreign body retrieval

I'll put it up on WP:CLINMED also. Would appreciate your comments and changes. I've put it up for WP:DYK also. -- Samir धर्म 07:29, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One more

Also double balloon enteroscopy; also put it up for WP:DYK -- Samir धर्म 08:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

An entry from Double balloon enteroscopy appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 7 June 2006.

• I emailed Dr. Yamamoto to let him know -- Samir धर्म 18:59, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Football sign or Riggler's sign

Found two stubs for what I thought is the same sign.

1. Are they the same sign?
2. If yes, should they be merged?
3. And to which name

-- Samir धर्म 10:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

1. I'm not yet sure whether they are the same or not.
2. It isn't Riggler's in any case... it ought to be Rigler's.[1][2]

Usage:

Football sign

• Pubmed [3] 5 hits
• Google [4] 39,500 hits

Rigler's sign

• Pubmed [5] 1 hit
• Google [6] 347 hits

Riggler's sign

• Pubmed [7] 0 hits
• Google [8] 87 hits

If they are the same... I'd say Football sign is the winner. Nephron  T|C 05:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I did a little bit more reading. They are NOT the same. Here is a ref.[9] The short of the long of it is:

1. "Football sign" = large pneumoperitoneum outlining entire abdominal cavity
2. "Double wall sign" = "Rigler sign" = air on both sides of bowel as intraluminal gas and free air

After looking at that-- my memory was jogged. I have seen a Rigler's before... I started fixing up the articles. Nephron  T|C 06:04, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another DYK

On June 8, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Endoscopic foreign body retrieval, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

-- Samir धर्म 22:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Defecation and the Welles step

Just noticed this strange text in the Defecation article:

"The welles step can make defecation easier. It is a specialized footstool which allows one to squat over the toilet, as squatting allows for less exertion of muscles in order to defecate. Also, squatting enables one to spread the buttocks further without using the hands, making for more sanitary bowel movements and less cleaning of the anus and buttocks afterwards."

To me, this welles step sounds more like a good way to sell a ~$70 footstool. Is there actually any truth to this? --Uthbrian (talk) 22:24, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

No -- Samir धर्म 03:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ulcerative colitis

• The article is filled with great information. WP:FAC tends to favour prose over lists. Some lists could be helpful however. The big advantage of this article is that the bulk of the information that should be in the article is there (thanks to everyone) and WP:GA is not far away.
• This is what I think we need
  • conversion of point form to prose where appropriate (Dr. Gonzo, your forte, my friend)
  • more references
  • better intro (good start M Dorothy)
  • table of UC and CD comparison
  • more wikilinks
  • explanation of jargon

-- Samir धर्म 04:07, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

If'n I knowed how to format a nice box table, i'd do it. Does anybody know where a nice table is, so I can copy the formats?M dorothy 14:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sengstaken-Blakemore tube

Does anyone have a photo of this? I'm strongly contemplating writing up this scary device. How many of you have used it, and how on earth is one supposed to learn? JFW | T@lk 15:02, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, Sengstaken-Blakemore tube is new. JFW | T@lk 15:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks good! There's balloon tamponade also (though it lacks sources) which has a picture of a Blakemore tube and bit more on use. I've put about 20 in myself and my understanding from conferences is that the UK means of insertion differs from the North American. You can either put it in blindly (which I've always done, and which resulted in shrieks of horror at World Congress of Gastroenterology from the British contingent) or directly under endoscopy (which I've never done, but, admittedly, is safer). NEJM had a beautiful picture of a misplaced Blakemore tube about a year ago. The keys are (1) make sure you are in the stomach with the tube and (2) instill air to the volume of the gastric balloon (3) gentle pressure with a counterbalance (4) appropriate suction. I've never used the esophageal balloon myself.

I've never instilled a Blakemore specifically, as all places I've worked at have had Linton tubes or Minnesota tubes (as the esophageal balloon doesn't add much to the pressure). Perhaps smerging to balloon tamponade with redirects at all of the balloon types? -- Samir धर्म 19:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ulcerative colitis photo

The photo at the top of the page has ulcers that look serpiginous in certain places (I know that it is a case of UC though), and as such, the photo is not the most representative of UC. Any better photos? -- Samir धर्म 06:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Toothbrush in stomach

Up for Featured Picture: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Toothbrush in stomach -- Samir धर्म 06:54, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crohn's disease

Very close to WP:FAC. Kudos on the de-jargonification by User:M_dorothy. The refs are there, and I think WP:CITE won't be a barrier to WP:FAC. We need more prose. -- Samir धर्म 02:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] And coeliac disease

I haven't had time to work on it, but it is the current collaboration. -- Samir धर्म 02:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I know. Sigh. Need a spate of 2 hours straight where I can put the new review from Gut into the article. Contains everything from epidemiology to pathogenesis. JFW | T@lk 08:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HRS

I expanded Hepatorenal syndrome tonight, but I think I made it too technical. Would appreciate if anyone gets a chance to review it. Thanks -- Samir धर्म 09:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bow and arrow sign

And a little endoscopic fun! -- Samir धर्म 04:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 3 August 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article treatment of Crohn's disease, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 00:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MEDMOS needs YOU!

The Manual of Style (Medicine-related articles) is entering a critical stage: I'm informing people to visit the page, make corrections where possible, and then state there support or disagreements on the talk page, so we can see if there is consensus to turn this proposed guideline into a consensus-supported guideline.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)