Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ecology

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Hi - this looks interesting - let me know what I can do! Mark Richards 18:51, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

If you'd like to be part of the project please add your name to the participants list. There's now a long list of open tasks too to give you an idea of what can be done. I'm hoping to make Wikipedia a really valuable resource for sustainability and ecology.

Thanks for your interest!

--Pengo 10:58, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] missing articles and stubs

I just removed a couple entries from the broken links section. I left some things in that link to (sub)stubs. These need to be expanded upon, so they should probably be listed somewhere. But would it make sense to have a separate listing for ecology related stubs separate from broken links? Jmeppley 18:26, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Re-writing the series

The Ecology and related articles are in serious need of a re-write. As Jmepply mentioned above, there are lots of stubs and sub-stubs that radiate out from the articles in no particular order. Some of the existing ones should really be subsumed within larger topics which, as it so happens, don't exist. Also there is no sense of hierarchy - the list of sub-fields, for example, does not convey the sense that there is any difference between the fields; thus, Ecosystem Ecology (one of the major subfields in ecology) is a red link which is on par with everything else. In addition, regional "flavours" of ecology (tropical ecology, polar ecology) are simply mixed in with the rest when they represent very different (though important) levels of organisation: you can, for example, have ecosystem ecology studies in the tropics, or theoretical polar landscape ecology. I don't have a better fit, but I don't think the list does a very good job of conveying knowledge (as opposed to just spitting information at readers).

I am interested in contributing to a major-reworking of the Ecology articles, but I am not quite sure how to go about it, and how to establish concensus on the final product. It would need to be done in a /temp folder, I suppose - I think many of the sub-articles should be merged or deleted, but I would not want to simply offer changes up one at a time...that would just result in chaos. While many of those articles have very little in terms of histories, some do, and these would have to be preserved in some way (I am pretty ignorant still about how these things really work in Wikpedia). So - thoughts? Guettarda 22:50, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I have not fully explored the ecology pages, but I do agree that what I have seen could use some re-organization. I made a small push last month to clean up the biological interaction pages last month. I opted for the incremental approach with those pages, but there are only a handful of pages there and I didn't know you could create a temporary area. I don't feel like I know enough about the field or Wikipedia to pull it off myself, but I'm happy to help. Jmeppley 22:58, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Biology portal

I encourage you all to help with maintaining the biology Wikiportal connected with this project! Ausir 23:03, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Energy development

Hi! We seem to have some parallel efforts starting here lately. You may not have noticed the ill-named Wikipedia:WikiProject Energy Related Development by Civilizations. It seems to me there should be a single umbrella project that includes Hubbert Peak, Energy development, etc. But the name Ecology seems a little funny for a project name. Why is it not Sustainability? Or am I knocking on the wrong door? Can I think this through with somebody? Thanks a million. Tom Haws 22:51, Feb 24, 2005 (UTC)

Let me see if I understand. Tom Haws

  • This project is a child of the biology project.
  • Sustainability project redirects to this ecology project.
  • Energy development and Hubbert Peak probably go under sustainability.
  • Therefore Energy development and Hubbert Peak are children of the Biology project?

I think we need to figure this all out somewhere central. I am driven by two needs here: 1) Topics like Hubbert Peak, Solar energy, Wind energy, Fuel cell cars, Hybrid cars, Energy development, Nuclear energy, etc. need a central place where relationships, policies, organizational hierarchies, and issues can be centrally discussed; 2) It is good to have people of different POVs working on the same issues; we should avoid splitting projects on POV lines. My gut feel is that Sustainability should be a separate project from Ecology, and Sustainability shouldn't be a child of Biology. But that may be wrong. Whatever Sustainability (including Hubbert Peak and Wind energy) goes under, I think it needs a central place to discuss organizational and presentational issues.Tom Haws 17:09, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Improvement Drive

Agricultural subsidy is currently nominated on Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive. You can vote for it if you want it to be improved.--Fenice 13:39, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Land trust

Hi, I thought this would be the best place to mention that the Land trust article needs improvement. I would be glad to help out, just drop a note on my talk page :) --JJF 06:08, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ecology is not the same as Environment

I feel that the scope of this project is not correctly focussed. It seems that Ecology is being confused with Natural Environment. Ecology is generally the study of the interactions of species within a habitat and excludes the effect of over-population and technology. Environment on the other hand, or perhaps qualified as Natural Environment, is topics on the effect of human activity on ecology or the environment in general. Alan Liefting 08:37, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I have started a Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment for environmental articles. Alan Liefting 06:10, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Alan, thank you. I agree with your comments. Ecology is a science, and a big one at that, and this wproject should be concerned only with the organization of the many subdisciplines that compose it. That is a big job in itself, and does not need to be hamstrung by confusion with other topics. Ecology is still commonly confused with environment, environmentalism and the like in popular use.
So, let's please have a discussion of the topics that should be managed under this wproject, and those which should be managed under the new Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment project. Jeeb 19:24, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] AfD articles

Hi, I stirred up a ruckus by nominating

It seems that most of these will survive the vote. They are articles dealing with concepts advanced by H.T. Odum, but were so questionably written that they got nominated for deletion. Can anyone here take a shot at cleaning these up? linas 04:00, 5 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Improvement Drive

Frog has been nominated to be improved by WP:IDRIVE. Help us improve it and support Frog with your vote on WP:IDRIVE. --Fenice 07:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Open tasks list

Please help to keep the Biology portal's Open tasks list up to date. This is one of our main communication methods to help get newcomers more involved in editing articles. It contains a list of articles that need improving, articles that need creating, articles that need cleanup, etc. And of course, if you have the time, please help and work on some of the tasks on that list! --Cyde Weys 05:18, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images on Chinook wind

Hello, there is currently a discussion on Talk:Chinook wind regarding which image (or images) best convey a chinook arch. Please join us to express your opinion. Thanks. -- JamesTeterenko 21:55, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for the Wikipedia 1.0 project

Hi, I'm a member of the Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing using these criteria, and we are looking for A-class, B-class, and Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Can you recommend any suitable articles? Please post your suggestions here. Cheers, Shanel 20:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kibbutz

Kibbutz is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 14:04, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tea

Tea is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 22:50, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 23:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gap analysis

I created an entry for gap analysis. Perhaps someone interested could take a look and improve it? AppleJuggler 09:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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