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Here are some Constructed language tasks: Requests: Auxiliary language articles: Aksiom Variant, Almensk, Antido, Apolema, Arioni-Boera, Arulo, Balta, Basic Slovak, Bendeh, Blaia Zimondal, Charles Bliss, Bopal, Carpophorophilus, Cosman, Cosmolingue, ELE, Esperido, Etem, Eurial, Eurish, Eurolang, Joe J. Heydecker, Hom Idyomo, Hoyhoy, Intal, Interlingu, Intersistemal, Iret, Kosmos, Langue Bleue, Lalortel, Langue catholique, Langue musicale universelle, Latinesce, Lenga Romance, Liberanto, Lingua International, Lips Kith, Alberto Liptay, Liva, Livagian, Loga, Mondezo, Monosyllabic Universal Language, Molog, Mundelingua, Neolatinus, Nepo, Novam, Nov Latin, Oiropapitschin, Panamane, Parla, Pasilingua, Picto, Plan B, Edward Powell Foster, Progresso, Romanal, Romanid, Roxhai, Spelin, Suma, Timerio, Transpiranto, Unitario, Universala Lingva Kodo, Erich Weferling, Weltparl Artistic language articles: Kobaian, Ptydepe, Satron, Vulcan Logical language articles: Voksigid Constructed writing system articles: Ladin Dolomitan To Expand: Any of the conlang stubs found in category:Constructed language stubs Find Images: Translate: Policy: Don't hesitate to express your opinion about our policy regarding constructed languages on wikipedia:Conlangs and/or to vote in the straw poll Also: please feel free to edit this portal as you see fit, or leave a message Related portals and projects: Esperanto Portal, Language Portal, Linguistics Portal, Constructed language WikiProject Revert Vandalism on this portal and on articles to do with Constructed Language.

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Instead of writing articles for the red links quoted above, I there are a few other things we should IMO give priority. I've listed them below. —IJzeren Jan _{In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij} 15:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red links

First of all, we should really have a discussion about the question whether we REALLY want those articles. If we put up a list of red links in the Portal (a featured portal, mind ;) ), we should at least be able to promise the person who writes it that it will "in all likeliness" survive an AfD. Looking at the list above, I'm far from sure we can do that in all cases.

This is more or less the same issue Kaleissin addressed on Jon's talk page. —IJzeren Jan _{In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij} 15:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template

See here. Jon made a proposal, and I made one based on Jon's. I'm not going to advertise mine in comparison with Jon's. The basic difference is that Jon tries to cover almost all conlang-related articles, while I tried to limit myself to the most important stuff. Anyway, I think we should find an answer to the question which one to use:

• Jon's
• Mine
• Something else
• No template at all.

—IJzeren Jan _{In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij} 15:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I slightly prefer yours to Jon's, but I think it needs to be pruned even further. It's roughly the same size or even larger than some of the smaller conlang articles, which seems excessive. Probably it should just link to the main articles about types of conlang, and maybe some articles about conlang-related matters like Relexification and Translation relay, with very few if any links to specific languages. --Jim Henry 20:06, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Agreed - the point should be to link to general information about conlangs, not to send them to every other conlang page. It's not a webring :) DenisMoskowitz 19:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Order instead of Chaos

The way the article Constructed language is set up, is actually quite clear. But there are a lot of subpages that overlap, contain double and sometimes conflicting data... In short, I think it would be worth to reorganise this whole thing a little.

• First of all, we have no less than three different descriptions of fictional languages: Artistic language#Genres of artlangs, Fictional language, and List of fictional languages all contain descriptions of what a "fictional language" is. I think that's a bad thing. Since we've decided a while ago to treat fictional languages as a subcategory of artistic languages, this is what I propose: that we move all there's to know about fictlangs to the "Genres of artlangs" section in Artistic language, that Fictional language becomes a redirect to that, and that we merge the List of fictional languages (without its description) with the List of constructed languages.
• The lists themselves are a mess, too. The List of constructed languages contains a list of auxlangs and a list of artlangs (including several fictional languages). Lists of fictional languages can also be found in the List of fictional languages, under Artistic language#Examples of artistic languages, and in the article Fictional language. As if that wasn't enough already, lists of auxlangs are both in the List of constructed languages and under International auxiliary language#Auxiliary languages, again heavily overlapping. At last, we have a list of engelangs at Engineered language#Examples of engineered languages. Since the discussion at Talk:List of fictional languages#Merge proposal doesn't seem to get us anywhere, I think we better discuss it here. My proposal is: move everything to the List of constructed languages, remove all the list stuff from the articles and replace it with a link to the corresponding subsection in the List page.

—IJzeren Jan _{In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij} 15:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, never mind, I've already done most of that. I've merged all lists found under artistic language, fictional language, list of fictional languages, international auxiliary language, engineered language, and the list of constructed languages itself into one renewed and fairly complete list of constructed languages. The other lists have been replaced with a link pointing to the corresponding section of the latter.

I've expanded the description of "fictional language" somewhat in artistic language#fictional languages. Right now, neither fictional language nor the list of fictional languages have any info that can't be found on artistic language or the list of constructed languages. In other words, in my opinion they should both become redirects. That also solves the discussion about a merger of fictional language with its corresponding list.

That's at least my idea. But there is a possible alternative solution: that we move the entire list of constructed languages#fictional languages back to the list of fictional languages and replace it with a link to it. It's not my preferred solution, because there is quite some overlap between fictional languages and other artistic languages and we will soon end up with new doublets again. But before I go on and turn articles into redirects, I'd appreciate some input first. —IJzeren Jan _{In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij} 12:32, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I say you've done a good thing - let's leave it like that. DenisMoskowitz 16:56, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. So, what precisely do you mean? Turn fictional language and list of fictional languages into redirects, then? —IJzeren Jan _{In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij} 18:32, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gibson Code

I added a stub for Gibson Code, which is as far as I can tell a constructed language. If anyone who watches this page knows anything more about it, please help the stub along. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:35, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

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Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)