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1 Current Discussions
2 Sorting out what should be included under "Cocktails"
3 Strategy
4 What not to do
- 4.1 Wikibooks
5 More books
6 Category:Cocktails with beer

[edit] Current Discussions

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[edit] Sorting out what should be included under "Cocktails"

A cocktail is a distilled beverage mixed with another drink other than water. As such, beer mixes, shandies, and distilled beverages diluted with water are not considered to be cocktails. A spritzer is not usually considered to be a cocktail. Sangría is not a cocktail. It might be worthwhile going through all the cocktails and re-categorising those which do not belong in the cocktail category. SilkTork 15:40, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Strategy

Some policy proposals to discuss:

Drinks should only be classified as cocktails if they match the description "a distilled beverage mixed with another drink other than water" (as per SilkTork's suggestion above). Stelio 19:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Cocktails should be included into the appropriate categories according to their content (e.g. "Category:Cocktails with vodka"). This may include several categories. Only if there are no other appropriate categories should a cocktail be included in "Category:Cocktails" directly (to prevent duplication with List of cocktails). Stelio 19:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What not to do

I'd like to point out that recipes are not considered appropriate for Wikipedia. See Wp:not#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information point 8. The cocktails category gets lots of articles which are nothing but recipes for cocktails, lists of ingredients and instructions on how to mix them. All of these articles get deleted or turned into redirects, if there is no way to turn them into actual articles. We can and should have articles on notable cocktails, though.

A hint, to those considering writing cocktail articles. If you can't find anything to say besides the ingredients and mixing instructions, don't create the article. --Xyzzyplugh 20:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikibooks

Another thing to point out is the b:Bartending book on Wikibooks which has a chapter on cocktails. You can use {{wikibooks}} to link to wikibooks (usually from the "See also" section, if available). --Swift 23:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More books

When deprecating the old {{wikibookschapter}} I came across a number of cocktails which weren't part of this project. Since I'm not an active member of it, I'll refrain from adding them, but rather list them below: