Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cocktails

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This article is part of WikiProject Cocktails, a project to improve Wikipedia's articles related to mixed drinks, including cocktails. If you feel this article is substandard, please do not nominate this article for deletion prior to March 1, 2007. The Project members are working very hard to improve the quality of these articles. Please see our Cleanup Project for information about our goals for this article and how you can help. At the conclusion of the Cleanup Project, the Project members will request all remaining substandard articles in the Project be deleted. Premature deletions only hinder our efforts.

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1 Archived Discussions
2 Project directory
3 New Lists to Fix Problems
4 New Project Page Feedback
5 Taking a break
6 Possible resources

[edit] Archived Discussions

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[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 20:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Lists to Fix Problems

Several past discussions(1)(2)(3) were concerned with how to deal with the many drinks that do not neatly fit within the strict definition of a "cocktail" (i.e., it must contain a distilled spirits).

I have been doing a lot of work with this topic, cleaning up many of the articles, lists, and categories. I propose creating an article called List of mixed drinks and branch out from there to List of cocktails, List of beer mixes, List of wine mixes (is that the best term to use?), List of non-alcoholic mixed drinks (with a redirect from List of non-alcoholic cocktails (which currently redirects to List of cocktails), List of shooters (essentially what the Shooter (beverage) article is this right now, just rename it), List of mixers (if we can improve on it), and a links to Drinkware and Bar tools (isn't there already an article on this?). This would also require updating related categories and maybe even the project pages.

If there is concensus in making these changes (and if it makes sense to those "in the know", such as bartenders with years of experience), I would like to make those changes soon (say within a week), so that I can continue cleaning up things and sorting them where they really belong.

Any thoughts on this change? Does it make sense? Does it satisfy both the "purists" (who think non-alcoholic beverages do not belong on a list of true cocktails) and the "average Joes" (who don't know or don't care that a beer mix is not necessarily a cocktail)? Any suggestions for different list names, or are those good? I don't want to break everything down so small we end up with lots of stubby lists, but the current List of cocktails is the opposite extreme. --Willscrlt 06:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Project Page Feedback

I rather boldly edited the Project's main page. Yes, it's loaded with things that I think are important. I am not the Project, however. I am only a member, only have one vote in matters, and I am very willing to go with the majority decision on what should and should not be a part of this project and its organization. That being said, I am currently doing most of the gnome work on cleaning up the Project's articles, lists, and categories. I have read a lot of the talk pages and understand many of the concerns that have been expressed. I hope that my current vision of the Project is well accepted by the other Project members. I also hope I have made it sound a bit more fun and enjoyable. The previous main page looked pretty much like the unedited template that it was. It needed help (like so many things around here), so I helped out. Please don't flame me fore it. Just speak up with your own suggestions, and let's change this from a one-person show to an interactive and fun Project in which everyone gets more involved. (I really do not want to do this alone. I have plenty of other interests on which I would like to spend my free time.) Thanks! --Willscrlt 12:54, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taking a break

I've spent the longer part of a week cleaning up the List of cocktails article (along with many other related ones). I am going to take a break for a bit and resume my "normal" life for a while. Hopefully other Wikipedians will pitch in and continue the cleaning and improving of those articles while I am away. I plan to check in on the WikiProject Cocktails occasionally in case anyone has questions or comments for me. Thanks! --Willscrlt 05:25, 11 December 2006 (UTC)