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[edit] Critical reaction websites?

Is there a aggregate data website for books? Something like Rotten Tomatoes, but obviously for a different medium. EVula 18:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A request for the project page

Would it be ok to link the discussion on the proposed notability criteria for books WP:BK on the main page of the project? I think the input from project members could really help to shape this guideline. I already put a notice on this talk page a couple of months ago and this did attract a couple of comments but putting it on the project page as something the project should look at would make sense. Thanks. Pascal.Tesson 17:07, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] criteria for infobox "influences"?

There really need to be some clear guidelines for who to include in writers influencing and influenced by an author.

At the moment, it's totally the subjective judgment of individual editors as to who should be included.

Dybryd 22:39, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Short story collections

I have just read The Collected Stories of Vernor Vinge and I am interested in creating an article for it. I see that the collection is already somewhat described in the Vernor Vinge article itself, but a seperate article seems appropriate to me. Looking through various articles I have seen short story collections included in the authors page and in their own pages, but with no mention of any preference or guidelines for creating these articles in WikiPedia:WikiProject Books or its child projects. Do any guidelines exist? Is anyone interesting in helping me to create a template and guidelines for short story collections if nothing already exists? -- Andrew Sullivan Cant 05:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

So what do You propose (guidelines)? feydey 06:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
I have start the article for The_Collected_Stories_of_Vernor_Vinge and I am working to get it into a format which would work for anthologies. I have stolen elements from the novel templete where appropriate and left others out. For example the additional details sections that come after the plot summary in the Novel template do apply to an entire anthology but they might apply to the stories. A short story description could be kept in th anthology article until more information exists for it and it can be broken out into a seperate article, if necessary.
Please let me know if you, or any other more experienced wikipeians, have suggestions for how I have laid things out.
(P.S.: I am still working on writing the story summaries.)
-- Andrew Sullivan Cant 05:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uncategorised Books

Would anyone here be interested in helping to maintain an "Uncategorised books" category by sorting it? There are a large number of them in the Uncategorised articles category. If so, please reply here and I will create it. Aelfthrytha 05:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I or someone else from the Books Portal can work on the category, go ahead and create it. feydey 10:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Not sure I understand the concept or the category. Where is Category:Uncategorized articles or Category:Uncategorised articles. The tempate marker {{Uncategorised}} I understand but the whole use of that implies that someone "hasn't" put on a category yet. Surely it is as easy to place on a Category:Novels or Category:Books or idealy something more helpful. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 10:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
My reasoning was as follows. I don't have enough expertise (or interest, to be honest) in the sorting and categorization of books to be effective at sorting them. Putting them into an uncategorised books category rather than throwing them all into either novels or books would prevent someone having to root through those categories to find those that need attention. Oh, and the category you're looking for is Category:Category needed; there are a group of editors who go through and see that those articles are properly categorised - all the ones which take the tag {{uncategorised}} or any of its variants end up there. Will create the category. Aelfthrytha 12:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Surely the way to drive this would be with a clone of {{Uncategorised}}, something like {{UncatBooks}}. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 13:03, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
That would be another way to do it, but basically what the template {{uncategorized}} does is put things into a category - it's the same thing, really. Aelfthrytha 14:30, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{WPBooks}}

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Books. To participate, you can edit the article attached to this page. You can discuss the Project at its talk page.
Portal:Literature
 Literature Portal
??? This article has not yet received a rating on the Project's quality scale. Please rate the article and then leave a short summary here to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article.

A created a basic template {{WPBooks}} for articles in the scope of the project. Keep in mind that I have limited template-making experiences, so feel free to expand it. What do you think of it? Should it be added to the front page? NauticaShades 08:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks like a good basis to start from - for other techniques you might like to use, trawl the {{NovelsWikiProject}} template for ideas. Good one! :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I've tried, but it's so complicated, it's hard to make anything out. It gave me a few good ideas, though. NauticaShades 09:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
So, what made you remove it from the main project page. Did someone object to it? :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 12:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, what gives? I've actually already added it to a couple of articles... unless there's some reason for its removal (like if it was hypnotizing us to kill babies), I don't see why you removed it. EVula 14:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh, sorry, I had put it on, then had second thoughts, thinking I might have been a bit hasty. But I suppose it it has support now, so it's officially on! NauticaShades 15:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Check the To Do list to see what's been tagged and what hasn't. NauticaShades 15:54, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] cat year nav

I'm developing a template called {{cat year nav}} that has most or all of the functionality of the dedicated yearly navigation templates. I've already replaced {{cvg year nav}} with it. If it is suitable for your project, I encourage you to use it (or tell me what it needs so I can fix it up). Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 23:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
  • User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Uncategorised books

Category:Uncategorised books has become very large. Aelfthrytha 04:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Advice wanted re: author's notability

I came across this article, Lynn Coulter, and saw it need clean up. I also wondered it the subject of the article was sufficiently notable as to merit an article. I don't have a good feeling for writer notability -- could perhaps one or more WP Books members take a look at it and see if it merits deletion? Thanks, --A. B. 02:22, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Nothing links to it. I can't see any reason to say it's notable.
Incidentally, the original contributor, whoever he or she may have been, has never contributed anything else except (almost the same day) an edit to Heirloom plants. Andrew Dalby 09:10, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks -- that's the way I felt about the article, but I wanted a second set of eyes. I will list for PROD. --A. B. 11:14, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I've listed this article now at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lynn Coulter. The author has made some edits to further establish her notability; I think it's still borderline at best, but others may disagree. Once again some objective third parties with a good feel for what constitutes author notability would be helpful in sizing this one up given the recent changes. --A. B. 17:59, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I vote for the article to stay. She has won an Independent Artist Award in Literature from the Georgia Council for the Arts, which I regard as being notable. Alternatively, do we need an entry for the Georgia Council for the Arts where Coulter and others could be listed? Just my 2 cents worth  :-) Roaming27 21:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Amazon template request

Howdy all - Since so many articles use external links to Amazon.com, I put in a request for an Amazon.com template here. Is anyone good at this? Thanks for any help - Pegship 16:22, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Template made (see the requested template page), but like I said there, I'm unsure of whether or not the template should even exist. EVula 16:42, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Claude Frollo

Would anyone who read the original Hunchback of Notre Dame book add some info on his character? Most of the stuff at his article is from the Disney movie version. --DrBat 21:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion section for author and book articles?

Hi. I was looking at the 13 November 2006 version of the article and noticed it had a "Discussion" section. It seemed a bit unusual by Wikipedia standards, but I don't normally work on book and author articles. For now, I have moved the material to the article's talk page. Could one or more of you take a look at this and see what you think? Thanks, --A. B. 02:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

You were right to take it out of the Harry M. Caudill article. Articles don't have discussion sections because this is what the talk page is for. But in this case I don't think the material really belongs in the talk page either! I suppose the first paragraph could be shoehorned into an article about the specific book referred to, but the long quotations from the book don't really suit Wikipedia at all. Andrew Dalby 16:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "New books" listings on "[Year] in literature" pages

Is there any kind of standard in place for what gets listed on the "[Year] in literature" pages?

At the moment, the "New books" sections appear to be totally random assemblages, neither limited by notability nor in any way complete.

Dybryd 19:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] James Joyce

James Joyce is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 21:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{WPBooks}}

After some hard work, I've incorporated a rating system into the {{WPBooks}} banner, so go out there and get rating! NauticaShades 09:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uncategorised (non-fiction) book (stub)s

I've 'bot-catted a number of non-fiction book-stubs with no other categories into Cat:uncategorised books. Alai 22:59, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Book cover replacement project

I've started WikiProject Free book covers, which used to be in my user space, as a project to replace fair use images of old books with public domain ones. All of these images are affected by the replaceable clause of the fair use policy, so this is a crucial task. We've gotten a lot done while it was in user space but there's still a lot of work to be done, so please come lend a hand. Every replacement advertises the project, so even doing one or two will help. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Chick Bowen 21:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

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