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[edit] Comments first from April 2004

I think there a quite a few issues that have come up when I've tried to write about buildings:

  • Photographs - is it appropriate to use photographs of features of a building? The photographs you use to show shapes (for example with a brutalist building) are different from those you take to illustrate a touristy builidng for example. I used grey scale photos to illustrate Brunswick Centre as I felt that it brought out the shape better and was accused of violating NPOV!
  • We have a lot of articles on skyscrapers - at the moment they tend to consist of X is so high and has so many floors. We need more than this obviously.
  • Should we make a box with name of building, date of completion, architect etc?

We can't write about every listed building, do we want to concentrate on ones that are particularly notable in terms of style, famous architects etc?

Apologies for the random jottings. Secretlondon 09:27, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Heck, don't apologize for random jotting. What else is a WikiProject talk page going to be used for? Anyway here are my thoughts on the above:

  • Picture are obviously important. Perhaps a mix of greyscale and color photographs? Alternatively, you could put the color photographs in and link to the grayscale, or vice versa. Color is prettier but greyscale shows buildings better.
  • It would make sense to me to have an architecture infobox. Standard stuff would obviously include completion date, architect, and name. Other info that could possibly be put in a standard box: start date of construction, developer, maybe the construction firm, interior designer (if it's someone other than the architect), and building type (see list of building types.) I'm sure there are more things we could include, too.
  • In terms of which buildings to write on, I don't have any particular goals in mind. If you want to prioritize, I'd say major works of big-name architects come first. Next are major landmarks (including buildings in major cities that anyone living in the area could identify.) Then we have other buildings by any architect we have an article on. Any other notable buildings can follow as people choose to write on them.

I'm not sure if the US has an equivalent to the UK's "listed building" status. We have something called the "National Register of Historic Places" it's not quite the same. Isomorphic 17:06, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Info boxes

I agree there are too many listed buildings to describe them all, but we could at least have a list of Grade I listed buildings.

Ideas for infobox:

Name of building
General view of building
Location
Architect(s)
Engineer(s)
Date commissioned/Date of competition
Date begun
Date completed

Please edit this! Warofdreams 20:07, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Looks good. Only one concern - the commissioning/competition date would be nice information, but might be hard to find and end up blank on most buildings. Also, could you clarify what "General view of the building" means? Isomorphic 20:18, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Greatbuildings.com [1] may be a good source of inspiration (and information) for this. I think it's very good to distinguish between dates of commission/begin/completion, since these are often mixed up (i.e. in different pieces of literature you often find several dates for a building), a confusion that can be clarified by Wikipedia. I don't know about "engineer" though -- on the other hand, it might be useful to include information on "client". Will check if I find more information elsewhere on "building metadata standards". Spinster 21:05, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • I only came across this Project not long ago, but I've had in mind for a while now to create articles for the skyscrapers in Melbourne, Australia. That said, I created my own infobox a while ago, you can see it at Rialto Towers and Eureka Tower. Thing is, it's rather large and might do with some reformatting/pruning. If anyone likes it, feel free to use whatever from it, or suggest how it could be made better. Other than that, there is (at the Rialto page) a navbox which leads to the next shortest/next tallest buildings in the city. Since making that, I've seen a few problems with it, like the fact that it will need reworking whenever a new building is completed, as well as being affected by the whole controvesy over including/excluding spires and antennas from heights, etc. TPK 03:19, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • The info boxes from TPK look good with multiple columns of information. The “smaller <=> larger building” link box is very useful too. Manually changing a few links in articles should be no problem when a new building is built to greater heights. There's another, very flexible info box in the article for Yankee stadium and a biography infobox. --Dogears 00:32, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
(refer to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Architecture/infobox for samples)
  • I revised the architect userbox, created WP Architecture userbox, and another arch userbox; and added a grid of them to the main page. Check them out. I will probably add the building template to the grid as well.    GUÐSÞEGN   – UTEX – 07:50, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architecture history series

Hi! I recently started an architectural history series -- would that be appropriate for inclusion in this WikiProject? In that case, you can count me in ;-) Spinster 20:57, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Standardized entries

Hi! This idea of standardising entries on the same topic (e.g. Architecture) is a good one. I'd like to suggest three sources of information and inspiration that might help in the development of this WikiProject.

[edit] CCA documentation

For 15 years or more the Canadian Centre for Architecture has been creating documentation (or "articles", if you like) of architects and architecture as represented in photographs, prints, drawings, archives, etc. Their online catalogue (http://www.cca.qc.ca/pages/Niveau3.asp?page=catalogue_collection&lang=eng) includes all of this documentation. The idea behind this documentation is to approach each subject in as much the same way as possible.

For example, titles of records usually follow the same form: "View of the White Plains Mall showing the entrance to the Scotch 'n Sirloin restaurant, White Plains, New York, United States" [photograph PH2000:0757, by Molitor, Joseph W.]; i.e. first a description of what is shown in the photograph using the subject's name (supported, if possible, by an authority), then the city-level location, then the regional (state/provincial) location, then the national location.

===The Art & Architecture Thesaurus=== (http://www.getty.edu/research/conducting_research/vocabularies/aat/) is a source of controlled vocabulary (used in CCA documentation) for art and architectural terms. Besides defining useful terms, a controlled vocabulary removes ambiguities that arise when describing different structures. For example, one could use any of a number of terms to describe "establishments that primarily sell gasoline, lubricating oils, and other merchandise, such as tires and batteries, for motor vehicles and that often also perform minor repair work": gas station, service station, filling station, gas bar... The AAT provides a researched and source-supported standard term (in this case, "service station").

[edit] The Library of Congress

The Library of Congress Authorities (http://authorities.loc.gov/) for source-supported names of people, places, and subjects. The "Authorized Heading" is the established form of the name in question, e.g. "100 1_ |a Mies van der Rohe, Ludwig, |d 1886-1969" i.e. Mies van der Rohe, Ludwig.

I've gone into way too much detail, but I thought it might be helpful to give supply some useful links and some possible parameters...

As for the question: "Photographs - is it appropriate to use photographs of features of a building?" I think any image is helpful, regardless of the type. It's not only architects and engineers who consult these articles and there's no telling how the information might be used - so there's no definitive method of representation. The CCA has over 60,000 photographs of architecture (and other subjects) in all kinds of formats: from daguerreotype (AAT term: http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=daguerreotype&logic=AND&note=&page=1&subjectid=300127181) to digital prints. That NPOV accusation was ludicrous. Pinkville 20:00, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for that useful information. We seem to have consensus on use of photographs of details of buildings. How do you suggest we use their standard designations? The controlled vocabulary could be very useful; I'm keen to see how U.S.-specific the terms are, but it's not necessary for us to standardise vocabulary except where one term has multiple meanings, as we can easily create redirects. As you may have noticed, this project has become rather inactive, so all ideas to reinvigorate it are very welcome! Warofdreams 09:41, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
The AAT provides US and British terms in most cases (e.g. "porches" = "verandas"), but the subjects covered are truly worldwide (including terms for styles of Nigerian sculpture, for example). I'd say that when a specific feature is notable in a structure that one is writing about it would be worth checking the AAT to find and use the controlled term. This becomes more significant when writing about a structure that isn't accompanied by an image - or when writing about a structure from a different architectural tradition (say, a Shinto shrine or a Medicine wheel). The AAT also provides definitions for terms like "general view", which might help answer Isomorphic's question.
Another way to use standardisation is in how structures and locations are named. Somewhere on a related page (that I now can't find) someone pointed out the conundrum of deciding what style to use in naming a building. The possibilities given were: "the XXX Building, Chicago" or the XXX Building (Chicago)", etc. I too prefer the former style (comma instead of parentheses) because it reads better. As for finding and using the definitive name of a building... that's where the Library of Congress Names Authorities come in. You can search for, say, "Guggenheim Museum" - select "Name Authority Headings" and click. You will then find "Guggenheim Museum" with a button marked "References" to the left - this means that "Guggenheim Museum" is not the Authorised name - so click on "References" and you will find "Authority Record" and "See Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum". Clicking on either will take you to the Authority record where the authorised name is listed on the line beginning "110" (or any number in the 100s, thereby indicating the authorised name). Names listed on lines marked in the 400s are unauthorised variations. You can do the same search for names of people or places or even subject matter.
Reading the AAT:
Just to give a quick note on how to read the AAT entries. The term searched for (and found) is in bold. The definition follows (after "Note"). The the synonyms or other forms of the term follw (under "Terms"). Click on the one- or two-letter codes for how to use or not use the accompanying term. Any terms/variations accompanied by "UF" are not to be used. So for the example below, US writers use "porches" and "porch", British writers use "verandas" and "veranda" (being in Canada, we use both US and British terms at the CCA). The other terms, "piazzas" and "verandahs" are not to be used. Play around for a while with the thesaurus and you will dicover its other interesting and useful features (e.g. the hierarchical displays, related terms, etc.).
porches (<exterior covered spaces>, <rooms and spaces by location or context>, ... Components)
Note: Use to designate roofed spaces, open along two or more sides and adjunct to a building, commonly serving either to shelter an entrance or used as living space.
Terms:
porches (preferred, C,U,D,American English-P)
porch (C,U,AD,American English)
verandas (C,U,D,British English-P)
veranda (C,U,AD,British English)
piazzas (porches) (C,U,UF,American English)
verandahs (C,U,UF,American English)
I hope this all makes sense - and is of some use! Pinkville 16:05, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
Very useful and complete information. The controlled vocabulary (copyright?) can be used for naming many articles, for example: List_of_basic_architectural_topics There's also 16 standard "Divisions" in the CSI Master Format to categorize building materials that can be used for Category:Architectural elements. A (new) List of official names of buildings" from the Library of Congress source can reveal articles with the wrong name and links to redirect pages. Another list or table can show different words for the same thing (porch vs. veranda), or architect / "signature building", or derivation of words (Bungalow from Indian roots ...), etc. --Dogears 09:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architecture and structures stubs

refer to: Wikipedia:WikiProject Architecture/Stub categories

[edit] Wikipedia:Article Improvement Drive

Architecture of Africa is currently nominated on Wikipedia:Article Improvement Drive. Come to this page and support it with your vote. Help us improve this article to featured status.--Fenice 08:46, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photographs

More photographs are needed for articles in Category:Buildings and structures with photos from people in the towns with great architecture. The proposal to create a file naming convention is important. Image file names are displayed on a Category page (under the thumbnail), when the image is manually added to a category.

Residential architecture projects are often referred to by the clients last name (eg.: Robie_House) and the city name. Other buildings take the name of the largest (current) tenant or sponsor and memorial names.

Proposal for a standard file name for photos:

Image: Building_name_City_Last-Name(of architect).jpg

For example - Farnsworth_House_Chicago_Mies
Photo credits + info can be added to separate Image:...jpg page.

It might be convenient to use short file names like "Mies" and "Corbusier", and many people refer to architects this way. See also information in this guideline: Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(people)#.22.3CFirst_name.3E_of_.3CLocation.3E.22_format

Which namespace is the best to upload photos of buildings? (Main, MediaWiki or Commons, etc). Should images be categorized in the Category:Building and structure images [sic]? --Dogears 09:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Put things on Commons. I have been experimenting with including pages in each other so that for example commons:Wells Coates includes commons:Isokon building as both have articles on wikipedia. Justinc 10:14, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, pictures and drawings should be put in the commons. Naming conventions can be discussed in Commons:CommonsProject_Architecture#Naming_of_Files TomAlt 22:11, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Skyscrapers

"... a lot of articles on skyscrapers ..."

There are many different articles with information about skyscrapers (sometimes conflicting?). The proposal for a standard format for articles, and info boxes, can make these disparate pages into a cohesive group of articles, Using infoboxes, with links to "random building" or "smaller <> larger building" for a consistent page design.


I've started to work on a standard for skyscraper information (I have been an editor at both SkyscraperPage and Emporis). You can see the discussion at Template:Infobox Skyscraper. I'm working on revisions that you can see on my user page. Once that's standardized I'd like to start organizing the skyscraper information more. Perhaps starting a daughter wikiproject? Kcumming 16:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architectural history

Articles in the architectural history series can be cross linked to articles (and Categories) in architecture.

[edit] Templates

An important template for registered world historic sites:

{{World Heritage Site List}}

List of World Heritage Sites

Americas | Europe | Africa | Asia & Australasia | Sites in Danger

[edit] Firms versus architects

I am not sure how to organise articles withing architecture firms versus individual arhitects. It doesnt help that I dont have many good sources for purely biographical data anyway. Currently for example Tecton redirects to Berthold Lubetkin. The article is pretty stubby anyway but if I took out the Tecton stuff it would just make two stubs (though this one I have some sources on). Lubetkin however worked in lots of different groupings. Another example is Hidalgo Moya and Philip Powell who only worked together as Powell and Moya so there is a lot of repetition in the articles about what they built. Any thoughts? Justinc 10:28, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

  • I don't think that there can be a general rule on this. I would say that the Tecton and Lubetkin articles should be split; as you say, neither one is a subset of the other. Powell and Moya could easily be merged; while there could be things to say about one which do not apply to the other, in this case where all the notable points about them are identical, it seems preferable to have one decent article rather than two essentially duplicated. Warofdreams talk 23:46, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Version 1.0 core topics

Hello. I'm part of Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Core topics working toward a release version of Wikipedia (on paper or CD).

If you're interested in helping, we plan to include Architecture.

If you think this is ready, please let us know. You can see our proposed initial quality standards or learn more about the overall project.

Thanks. Maurreen 04:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

The Architecture article itself is neither excellent nor terrible. Overall coverage of architecture is patchy, with some FAs and large numbers of stubs. I dont quite understand the 1.0 project, it seems to mean different things to different people (and the web pages dont help). I cant even work out how many articles it is going to include. Justinc 11:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry the 1.0 project is confusing; you do have a point. The gist of it is that we're trying to work toward a paper or CD version of Wikipedia (or both). A few groups are taking various approaches toward the same goal. I doubt a firm decision on the number of articles will happen for a while. Can I answer any questions about 1.0? Maurreen 04:11, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Also, with the Architecture article being neither terrible or excellent, do you think it is adequate ... for instance, factually correct and adequate scope and proportion? Thanks. Maurreen 04:14, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I cant see any factual errors, and it links to a slightly random collection of other articles which give plenty of starting points for further browsing. The illustrations are more decorative than relevant to the text. So yes, probably adequate. Justinc 10:01, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Commons

Since 27th July 2004 the german Wikipedia has a WikiProjekt Architecture and building industry. The german Wikipedia has made huge progress in terms of Articles, Portal and Category structure in this 1.5 years. The next step for us would be to organize the material in the commons (see Category:Architecture). Architecture and buildings make up already a huge amount of material there. My suggestion is to start an own Wikiproject in the Commons. I would be glad if some people from the english Wikipedi would join the CommonsProject_Architecture CU there! TomAlt 09:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reanimation!?!

Hello Everybody! As I saw this Wikiproject is an "Inactive WikiProjects"!?! Lets reanimate it! I began with the Project page, I hope my changes are no offence to anybody!?! I made the experience in the german Wikipedia that an active project architecture can really push the subject on a higher level! In the 1.5 years the german project exists it has structured the architecture-related articles and helped to increase the quality of many articles. So, my suggestion is a reboot of this project? What do you think? TomAlt 10:23, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Coming from the Woodworking WikiProject, I am glad to see this project revived. We have a number of commonalities, especially wooden buildings and construction. As well, many of the architecture stubs are for elements that are often made of wood. Should the two projects be considered related wikiproject? Luigizanasi 20:07, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I think there is a relation, I will put it in the portal and probably come back to you to discuss categories etc. TomAlt 21:36, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] An invitation to all members of this project

WikiProject Arts
Announcing the creation of WikiProject Arts, an effort to create a collaboration between all arts projects and artistically-minded Wikipedians in order to improve arts coverage. If you think you can help, please join us!

HAM Image:Icons-flag-wales.png 17:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Granary COTW

I have nominated Granary to the WP:COTW Granaries have been important in history, agriculture, society and economy .They are still very important. Very much could be said in terms of the history of agriculture, the different types of granaries and the importance in different cultures (in proverbs, stories, etc...) It is still, at this stage, a stub. Building a image gallery of granaries would also be nice.

[edit] Building and Architect Templates

Am I missing something or are the Template:Building and {{Template:Architect}} templates on the main page not active?--Mcginnly 19:19, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

They look blank to me too. Feel free to create them and start to use them. DVD+ R/W 20:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Frank Lloyd Wright

Frank Lloyd Wright at 165
Personal Information
Name Frank Lloyd Wright
Nationality American
Birth date 8th June 1867
Birth place Richland Center, Wisconsin
Date of death 9th April 1959
Place of death Wherever
Working Life
Practice Name The disciples
Significant Buildings Robie House

Fallingwater
Johnson Wax Building
Guggenheim Museum
Significant Projects The Illinois
Awards and Prizes Numerous Glittering Genius Awards


Imperial War Museum North

Entrance
Building Information
Name Imperial War Museum North
Location Salford, Manchester
Country United Kingdom
Architect Daniel Libeskind
Client Imperial War Museum
Engineer Ove Arup
Construction Start Date whenever
Completion Date 5th July 2002
Cost £28 million
Structural System Steel frame with concrete floors
Style Deconstructivism
St Paul's Cathedral

St Paul's Cathedral from the south
Building Information
Name St Paul's Cathedral
Location London
Country United Kingdom
Architect Christopher Wren
Client The Church of England
Engineer Christopher Wren
Construction Start Date June 1675
Completion Date October 20, 1708
Structural System Load bearing portland stone
Style Renaissance to Baroque



Can anyone think of any additions (particularly to architects)--Mcginnly 14:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


    • I wonder if something akin to the approach taken by Wikipedia:UK Wikipedians' notice board might be useful for prioritising and listing articles to be created, collaborations, expansions and stubs? Any thoughts?--Mcginnly 13:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
    • I've put a request for the BOT people to add the {{Template:Architecture]] to the talk page of every article in the various architecture categories. Might generate some new membership.--Mcginnly 18:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
    • These templates should be on the article page. I am going to be bold and copy them.TonyTheTiger 15:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Renaming and Moving Pictures

Many pictures of fine buildings where already added before this project, or are added by people unaware of this project, will there be a moving and renaming action on those images or what can be done?Mach10 22:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I'll add this task to the 'Things you can do section on the project page'. I don't really see the need to move or rename images. Moving them to Commons is a valid exercise though. - suggest we keep it in mind and add the approriate categories when we come across a relevant image.--Mcginnly 08:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] National Romantic Style

Are there no article about this architectural style or is it simply under another name? --Dahlis 15:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Urban studies and planning?

Category:Urban studies and planning and the articles it contains need a lot of work, especially in organizing the subcategories. It seems to me to be somewhat different to Architecture (though closely related of course). Is there any objection to my creating a WikiProject Urban studies and planning? --Singkong2005 (t - c - WPID) 06:00, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

No Objections from me, though I'm not sure what the protocol for doing that sort of thing might be - maybe it's just BE BOLD and do it. They'll come a day when it will need it's own Portal too I think. Similarly with Civil Engineering and Construction I would imagine.--Mcginnly 08:12, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
I've created it using the Wikiproject template. You'll need to populate it though. --Mcginnly 11:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Good work - and yes, the protocol is indeed to be bold and do it. I'll help where I can, but it would be great to get some planners involved (I have an interest in it, but it's not my profession). --Singkong2005 (t - c - WPID) 15:39, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion - Should urban studies and planning be a sub-project and sub-portal of architecture?

  • Any thoughts?--Mcginnly 11:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Layout revamp

I've been bold and completely revised the layout on the wikiproject page because I found it very confusing and disorganised - any comments greatfully received --Mcginnly 17:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help needed at Environmental design

It has recently come to my attention that the environmental design article is fundamentally misleading. As I have always understood it, the longstanding and correct usage of "environmental design" means "design of the built environment". This includes the fields of architecture, landscape architecture, urban planning, and interior design, and distinguishes them from the other design arts such as graphic design, industrial design, and so forth. Lately, people have begun using the term in a way that is basically synonymous with sustainable design or green design, but I do not believe that this is correct. It leaves the previous concept of "environmental design" without a term on its own, while essentially duplicating other popular terms. Plus, I believe that it is still the minority usage of the term, but this is not reflected in the article. So we need some folks who are knowledgeable about design terminology to head over to that page and help sort it out. Thanks! Skybum 02:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Might be able to help, so I'll look. These are important terms to differentiate. Additionally green design goes beyond sustainability in its goals and so is not the same and probably a superset of sustainable design. -- M0llusk 17:36, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need help with: Featured article candidate/Architecture of Norway

I have nominated Architecture of Norway as a featured article and am working to respond to the (inevitable, but helpful) objections that have come in. I would appreciate any assistance in bringing the article up to a truly excellent standard. Copy edits, additional material, corrections, source citations, etc., are all welcome. My hope is that it will encourage more articles on architecture. And I think you'll find the article interesting, as well. Thanks in advance. --Leifern 16:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mainz Cathedral

I translated this from the German article the other day, although not 100% (I didn't do the artifacts segment). Someone might want to take a look at this -- the German version is a GA, and I think this one could be too with a few touch-ups. - Che Nuevara: Join the Revolution 15:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architecture and Community

Hi, archetecture folks! The article Community is undergoing massive restructuring toward featured article status via Wikipedia:WikiProject Community, Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team and many individuals. I've noticed a few architecture-related articles that share context with community-related articles such as local community, ecovillage, gated community, urban planning ... gosh, the list goes on and on. I'm wondering if ya'll might be interested in doing a section called "Architecture and Community" and pick or create a main article that can expand upon the subject. Just an idea. Please have a look and let us know on Talk:Community if ya wanna. Thanks! CQ 02:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Streetcar suburb? -- M0llusk 18:00, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article Spanish architecture doesn´t exist.

Hello, I am Garcilaso, an architect from Spain. I have been writing about Spanish architecture in articles about the different historical styles. At the moment, there isn´t and article named Spanish architecture in this wikipedia. It is a quite large subjet to be done by only one editor, so I have just proposed it to be Wikipedia: Collaboration of the week. I would apreciate your support voting for it and helping with the content. There is a lot of work to be done. Thank you for advance, --Garcilaso 17:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Solar design tidied

Category:Solar design had a lot of solar energy stuff in, so I have moved these to a new cat, Category:Solar energy.

A few articles I have put in both. See my comments on changes made here. --Singkong2005 talk 04:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Looks good, thanks Singkong. I'm always mistified how unrelated topics seem to bleed into architecture, planning etc. This is how Adolf Hitler is in the 'neutrality in question -cleanup' section of the architecture wikiproject - I assume something to do with Category:Nazi architecture --Mcginnly 10:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unfinished buildings

I just thought I'd let you know about the new (sub)stub I just created, Unfinished building. It may be of interest to some people here. The idea is to list (with some description) examples of buildings that remain in an unfinished state and most likely will continue to do so. It is similar to unfinished work, which focuses on media, such as paintings and literature.

I probably won't be doing much work on the article as it is certainly outside of my expertise. violet/riga (t) 13:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reworking technopolis etc - any views?

The page Technopolis is tagged as being part of this WikiProject (?). It could be part of a reworking/merger/disambiguation of Science park, Research park, Technology park and Technopole. Any views would be welcome either here or at Talk:List of research parks. --Mereda 09:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Category:[YEAR] architecture

You may have noticed the new categories for architecture by year - Category:1st century architecture, Category:1110s architecture, Category:1897 architecture, etc. Please feel free to add them to any architecture articles you work on - using the one or two most important dates for the building or other project in question - the categories are currently underpopulated. Warofdreams talk 00:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging articles related to Prefabricated housing

I would strongly support a merger between Manufactured housing, Mobile home, Modular home, Prefabricated home, Prefabricated housing and possibly Prefabricated buildings. See discussion at Talk:Mobile home#Total confusion and Talk:Manufactured housing.

One option is to put US specific info in Manufactured housing - HUD Code and general info in another article.

I was thinking it would be good to have information on recent developments in prefab housing, such as the Glide house (currently a redirect)... but the priority is to do appropriate merging.

btw, if two articles are very clearly about the same thing, there is no need for discussion; they can be immediately merged. I'm almost bold enough to do that, but it's not my field and I'd appreciate the input of someone who knows the field better than me. --Singkong2005 talk 14:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Related FAC

If anyone is interested in examining a related featured article candidacy, please check out Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Point Park Civic Center. Christopher Parham (talk) 20:17, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help for military history

Hi

Could you help us on the fortress article and its subarticles a bit? We need some suggestions, how we make a presentation of this kind of building and its different types. Thank you Wandalstouring 19:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review request

City of Manchester Stadium is currently on peer review. As I developed the article primarily from a sporting standpoint, I'd like to know if there are any gaping holes in the article with regards to architecture. Thanks Oldelpaso 12:20, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] 17 State Street (Manhattan) up for deletion

I think this discussion could use some more input from architecture fans. I'm not familiar with the notability criteria for skyscrapers. Zagalejo 00:36, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architects Without Borders

There's no article yet for Architects Without Borders[3]. It seems notable, with 11,000 hits, including a few articles, on google:Architects-Without-Borders. I've suggested by email to the organization that if they wish to contribute, they could do it at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Architecture/Architects_Without_Borders_draft, then post a message here, and ask editors to use the material for the article. --Singkong2005 talk 02:23, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Image:Szydlowiec church town hall.jpg

  • This image on Commons may have from my untrained eyes some use to this project as its not in any categories that editors here would normally look I've brought to your attention. Gnangarra 12:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Infobox Skyscraper

I just want to post a heads-up saying I merged several of the skyscraper infoboxes into Template:Infobox Skyscraper. You may want to look at the changes, and if necessary, add more fields that could belong in the infobox. Note that all fields are optional, so the infobox probably won't be as long as it appears. -- tariqabjotu 10:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
  • User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 20:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now put the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 23:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Colditz Castle

Colditz Castle is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 17:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

thanks sandy I'll have a look. --Mcginnly | Natter 17:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion on glossaries

Discussion over whether glossaries should be removed from wikipedia and moved over to Wiktionary at Wikipedia_talk:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Glossaries. If you have an interest in keeping the Architectural glossary within wikipedia or have it moved to Wiktionary, you might want to participate in the discussion. Luigizanasi 03:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architectural visualization article prodded for deletion

Hi, I prodded the architectural visualization article for deletion as a dictionary definition. Since it seems like a low traffic article and the original craeator doesn't seem to be editing anymore I wanted to make sure editors with an interest in the subject were aware. If you think it should stay all you need to d is remove the tag, though it would be good to get a little expansion so it'a no longer a definition and it's clearer what a full article on the subject would encompass. Thanks. --Siobhan Hansa 15:13, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] question about vault

I've written Kazdağlı Mosque article. All my sources are Turkish, and there is a term "aynalı tonoz" but i don't know what is it in English. Tonoz is vault. If it helps aynalı means "mirrored". I've found a Turkish definition for the term; manastır tonozunun üst bölümünü yatay bir üzlemde keserek elde edilen tonozdur meaning: "aynalı vault is made cutting monastery vault's upper part in a horizontal plane." Also there is an image on article. Thanks in advance. --Ugur Basak 12:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

It's quite hard to tell without seeing some internal photos looking up at the dome and vaults. Do you have any? --Mcginnly | Natter 12:52, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately i don't have any other photos, i also can't find any photo from intertet. --Ugur Basak 13:10, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I've founded a few photos on this site Check the ones named "Kazdağlı". --Ugur Basak 13:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm really struggling on this one - I think you need a english speaking turkish archtect - but my best guess, is rather than mirror I believe Aynali can also mean paneled - so a panelled vault. I thought perhaps also a decorated vault - most sources where that word appeared that had pictures seemed to include decorated domes - (can tonoz also mean dome?) - or just a vault with a flat soffit. regards --Mcginnly | Natter 14:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I searched the term and find the meaning, it's cavetto vault. There is no article about caveotte vault and cavetto is redirecting to Molding (decorative). Is molding deal with cavetto vault. Thanks for your interest. --Ugur Basak 09:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm looking for an Architectural Administrator

to change a fairly new article, Maya Revival Style to Mayan Revival architecture. Actually a look at the list of the different articles about the various styles of architectures seemed to reveal that there is not much consistancy here. So I'll propose that at least all the revival style articles be named [or re-named] Whatever [Gothic, Egyptian, Colonial, Classical, Tudor, etc.] Revival architecture. Let's talk. Carptrash 20:04, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

You don't need an admin to change Maya Revival Style to Mayan Revival Architecture. Just use the move tab. Ask at that talkpage first and talk to User:TravisNygard about it. You can also use WP:RM. Looking now, the others you mentioned already seem to be at the names you mention. Regards, DVD+ R/W 00:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I'll try that MOVE button thing. The person who first posted the article is not a registered user or I would have discussed it with him\her. We'll talk photos elsewhere. Carptrash 15:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Forms in architecture

Whatever that... Thing is, can somebody have a look to try and clean it what is useable in it?

Am currently cleaning up Category:Architectural elements by transferring elements into subcategories, BTW. Will soon move to Category:Architecture itself. Circeus 19:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

To where? - perhaps a little discussion first please? --Mcginnly | Natter 22:46, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Palladian window

Someone who has more knowledge on the subject than I do might want to consider reverting this edit to the article Palladian window, which is now a redirect to Palladian architecture. Note that there is a major section the the Palladian architecture article about the Palladian window. I personally think the Palladian window should have its own article in addition to its section in the larger article, but I don't feel comfortable making that decision. Thanks. --TantalumTelluride 02:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

As the article on Palladian windows was so short, and all the relevant information is in the Palladian architecture article, I don't think that there's any need to revert this. If more detail on the windows is forthcoming, the article could be split out again. Warofdreams talk 00:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree with warofdreams here - there didn't seem much scope to expand the article in its own right and it given context and reference by its current location within the palladian architecture article. Quality vs. quantity --Mcginnly | Natter 13:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Palladian architecture

Palladian architecture has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" from featured status. The instructions for the FAR process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Sandy (Talk) 01:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are fictional structures in the scope of this project?

I happened to notice this project's banner on Talk:Death Star. It was added by a bot,[4] so its possible that it was added by mistake. Anyone? EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The bot added the tag because Death star carries a Megastructure category - it should probably be something like Fictional Megastructures. My inclination is to remove the tag and say that fiction structures aren't necessarily architecture, but can be - it rather depends on if they add anything to architectural discourse. Metropolis (1927 film) probably is but Springfields probably isn't - who knows about the Emerald City - i'm sure there will some venturiesque thesis somewhere about it's place in pop consciousness and it's application to architecture. Anyone else? --Mcginnly | Natter 19:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Architecture of the Teutonic Order

I've prodded this article for deletion because it is just a photo gallery and I've had no response from the author. Perhaps someone here will object? --Mcginnly | Natter 19:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dab page tags?

I have created several dab pages for buildings (Trump International Hotel and Tower, Trump Plaza, & Marquette Building). I am not sure if I should add {{Architecture}} tags to them, but I did. TonyTheTiger 15:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Great - I'd add the {{architecture|class=NA}} (not article) though --Mcginnly | Natter 15:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for help (easy)

Hi. I'm looking for some competent help to add a few sentences about German architecture in the article Germany (currently up for Featured Article status). Like I said, it's just supposed to be a few meaningful lines, not a full detailed treatment (as the article is already quite long). This would be very appreciated. Thanks, Pascal.Tesson 04:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I've added something to the article; any other contributors are very welcome to look over and improve on it! Warofdreams talk 23:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Did you know"s

I'm not sure if you all keep records of such things, but:

If you want further records of such things, please indicate below where to post them. Thank you. Badbilltucker 21:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

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