Wikipedia:WikiProject Tycoon Computer Games/Definition Proposal
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We need to create a standard definition for Tycoon Computer Games!
- Should we allow games with Tycoon like properties to be labeled as one?
- Should we restrict it to games with "Tycoon" in their name?
AND
- What will the definition be? (Needs to be updated on the Tycoon Computer Game article.)
Opinions:
[edit] Primate's Opinion
I think that both should be included, but they need to have a notice (on the article) if they have tycoon like qualities but do not have tycoon in the name.
The definition should be an expanded version of:
A computer simulation/strategy game in which you must develop a business or business like place (such as a railroad, etc.) , with real-life scenarios, such as limited money and poor staffing.
[edit] Mikademus's Opinion
I think only games explicitly with the word "Tycoon" in the title should be eligable. My reasons for this are:
- Tycoon games are not a genre in itself but a collection of titles. Defining the genre "tycoon games" would be original research and as such against wikipolicy; while, on the other hand, documenting a collection of titles is not. "Tycoon game" is a tag, not a genre.
- Tycoon games usually already belong to a genre, most often economic simulation games, thus expanding the definition to allow/cover any Tycoon-game:ish title is putting the horse after the cart by naming the parent after the child.
- Further, it creates a very difficult situation by leading to the Definition Hell of Arbitrary Inclusion and Exclusion: Should "The Movies" belong? Possibly. If so, "The Sims"? Probably not, eh? Should "Capitalism"? Perhaps. Should "SimCity"? No. Why? In fact, why couldn't any real-time game with economic aspects by a "Tycoon" game? StarCraft? Because they already belong to the "city-building game" or "real-time strategy" genres? But see point #2, above... Because they are too different? But they all share critical similarities and can be argued to be "tycoonish" games. Etc etc.
Thus, it is impossible to non-arbitrarily define tycoon games as anything but games with "Tycoon" in the title, and a community of wikipedians trying to do define the genre "tycoon game" would be acting against wikiprinciples - wikipedians catalogue but do not invent. In short, the only two valid avenues are (1) limiting oneself to games named "tycoon", which would make the project an unproblematic, non-ambiguious and non-arbitrary cataloguing undertaking, or (2) describing already elsewhere existing conceptions of "the tycoon game genre" would be valid. Mikademus 18:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
