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Article assessment is the process by which tropical cyclone articles are sorted by quality into the different quality categories. This page provides information on the assessment scale as well as the current practice of assessing articles.

Tropical cyclone
articles
Importance
Top High Mid Low Total
Class
Featured article FA 1 6 15 12 34
A 1 4 1 6
Good article GA 6 14 51 71
B 15 52 51 118
Start 28 179 201 408
Stub 3 100 61 164
Unassessed 1 1
Total 2 58 365 377 802

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[edit] Assessment scale

The scale for assessments is defined at Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment. Articles are divided into the following categories.

Article progress grading scheme [  v  d  e  ]
Label Criteria Reader's experience Editor's experience Example
Featured article FA
{{FA-Class}}
Reserved exclusively for articles that have received "Featured article" status after peer review, and meet the current criteria for featured articles. Definitive. Outstanding, thorough article; a great source for encyclopedic information. No further editing is necessary unless new published information has come to light; but further improvements to the text are often possible. Sikhism (as of August 2006)
A
{{A-Class}}
Provides a well-written, reasonably clear and complete description of the topic, as described in How to write a great article. It should be of a length suitable for the subject, with a well-written introduction and an appropriate series of headings to break up the content. It should have sufficient external literature references, preferably from "hard" (peer-reviewed where appropriate) literature rather than websites. Should be well illustrated, with no copyright problems. At the stage where it could at least be considered for featured article status, corresponds to the "Wikipedia 1.0" standard. Very useful to readers. A fairly complete treatment of the subject. A non-expert in the subject matter would typically find nothing wanting. May miss a few relevant points. Minor edits and adjustments would improve the article, particularly if brought to bear by a subject-matter expert. In particular, issues of breadth, completeness, and balance may need work. Peer-review would be helpful at this stage. Durian (as of June 2006)
Good article GA
{{GA-Class}}
The article has passed through the Good article nomination process and been granted GA status, meeting the good article standards. This should be used for articles that still need some work to reach featured article standards, but that are otherwise good. Good articles that may succeed in FAC should be considered A-Class articles, but having completed the Good article designation process is not a requirement for A-Class. Useful to nearly all readers. A good treatment of the subject. No obvious problems, gaps, excessive information. Adequate for most purposes, but other encyclopedias could do a better job. Some editing will clearly be helpful, but not necessary for a good reader experience. If the article is not already fully wikified, now is the time. Agriculture (as of June 2006)
B
{{B-Class}}
Has several of the elements described in "start", usually a majority of the material needed for a completed article. Nonetheless, it has significant gaps or missing elements or references, needs substantial editing for English language usage and/or clarity, balance of content, or contains other policy problems such as copyright, Neutral Point Of View (NPOV) or No Original Research (NOR). With NPOV a well written B-class may correspond to the "Wikipedia 0.5" or "usable" standard. Articles that are close to GA status but don't meet the Good article criteria should be B- or Start-class articles. Useful to many, but not all, readers. A casual reader flipping through articles would feel that they generally understood the topic, but a serious student or researcher trying to use the material would have trouble doing so, or would risk error in derivative work. Considerable editing is still needed, including filling in some important gaps or correcting significant policy errors. Articles for which cleanup is needed will typically have this designation to start with. Munich air disaster (as of May 2006) has a lot of helpful material but contains too many lists, and needs more prose content & references.
Start
{{Start-Class}}
The article has a meaningful amount of good content, but it is still weak in many areas, and may lack a key element such as a standard infobox. For example an article on Africa might cover the geography well, but be weak on history and culture. Has at least one serious element of gathered materials, including any one of the following:
  • a particularly useful picture or graphic
  • multiple links that help explain or illustrate the topic
  • a subheading that fully treats an element of the topic
  • multiple subheadings that indicate material that could be added to complete the article
Useful to some, provides a moderate amount of information, but many readers will need to find additional sources of information. The article clearly needs to be expanded. Substantial/major editing is needed, most material for a complete article needs to be added. This article still needs to be completed, so an article cleanup tag is inappropriate at this stage. Real analysis (as of November 2006)
Stub
{{Stub-Class}}
The article is either a very short article or a rough collection of information that will need much work to bring it to A-Class level. It is usually very short, but can be of any length if the material is irrelevant or incomprehensible. Possibly useful to someone who has no idea what the term meant. May be useless to a reader only passingly familiar with the term. At best a brief, informed dictionary definition. Any editing or additional material can be helpful. Coffee table book (as of July 2005)

These criteria apply to general-content articles. Tropical cyclone articles have additional criteria/guidelines about what sorts of content and formatting should be provided for an article of each class; see the talk page for discussion of these.

Each tropical cyclone article has its assessment included inside the {{hurricane}} template, such as {{hurricane|class=B}}. This provides automatic categorization within Category:Tropical cyclone articles by quality. Note that the class parameter is case-specific; see the template's documentation for more information.

[edit] Assessment guidelines

The following are specific assessment guidelines specifically for tropical cyclone articles that impacted land.

  • Stub class- No structure, only brief storm history or impact.
  • Start class- Some structure, brief impact of less than 1 paragraph
  • B class- Decent structure, at least one paragraph for each impact area, inline sourcing, includes preparation
  • GA class- Include metric units, preparation and aftermath if it exists, the primary impact area has at least 2 paragraphs
  • A class- Everything is fully mentioned, impact section has multiple sub-sections by area that are complete, cite web formatting, has at least one picture (excluding infobox and storm path pics), should be nearly ready for FAC
  • FA class- Passed FAC

[edit] Assessment process

To create a new assessment discussion here, add the article to be assessed in a sub-section of the #Article assessments section below. Give the article's exact name in the title with a wikilink. Finally, add the "assessed=yes" parameter to the {{hurricane}} template near the talk of the article's talk page.

Current practice is that Stub-Start-B assessments are done by individual editors when looking at an article. Before upgrading to A-class the article should be discussed here to make sure everyone agrees. Once the article is A-class you should probably get general peer review on it and then follow the normal process for making the article a FA article. Peer review (PR) and FA candidates (FAC) should be announced here to get more TC-specific comments from the TC editors.

Articles that are classified as either A-class or Featured articles should be listed in the WikiProject's table for the Version 1.0 Editorial Team. Additionally, A-Class articles should also be listed at the List of A-Class articles.

Finally, to prevent the page from becoming too long, archive an assessment discussion using the following form (replacing PAGENAME with the name of the article to archive):


[edit] Article assessments

Current Tropical Cyclone Collaboration of the Fortnight
Hurricane Fifi
Currently on Peer review Currently on Featured article candidates
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If you don't find a storm, and its talk page marks it as assessed, look for it in the archives.

[edit] Hurricane Ivan

This one is currently marked as an A; the only such we have. I did this just because Hink listed it in his table as an A. But it is a very good article (appropriate length, interesting and complete), so I say it should be an A. Jdorje 00:28, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Looking at the assessment criteria we gave above, this does not pass as an A class. It does not have Cite Web formatting, it has citations needed (which should lower it to Start class), and incomplete metrification. I propose it is lowered to GA or even B. This way hopefully more editors will realize Ivan is not finished. I put a todo list on the talk page. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Anyone oppose dropping it to GA class? It needs much more work for it to be A class. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Labor Day Hurricane of 1935

This one is pretty close, and with some work we could get it there. Jdorje 00:28, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I say this just needs a longer intro, then it would be A, if not FA. Hurricanehink 01:58, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
A-Class now. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 19:50, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Dropped to B class due to lack of sources. It needs sources in general and some more organization to the impact section. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Georges

I expanded this from 5kb to 35kb, and feel it deserves a higher rating. Hurricanehink 20:00, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

It is extraordinarily complete and well-referenced, likely the most complete and well-referenced article we have. It should definitely be an A, though we may want to find more pictures and cut down some of the detail before going for FA. — jdorje (talk) 20:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Looking at the above criteria, it is missing an aftermath section and cite web formatting. I put a todo list in the storm's talk page. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I looked this over, and this could be our next FA. The preparations section needs to be toned down a bit (it also needs an image), and some of the satellite imagery needs to be replaced, but other than that, I think it's ready. The impact section could be a GA by itself. --Coredesat talk! 20:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

It needs more organization to preps, an aftermath section, impact pics for Alabama/Mississippi, and more damage info, particularly in the U.S. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1997 Pacific hurricane season

I think this article is superior than a plain Class B article. I'm not going to change the class, but it should be because it has a good season intro, the list is with dates, categories and decent images. Also at the end of the article has a very complete info about records broken. Tamplates are well used. So I think it should be promoted to A-class. And finally, it cites its references. If I could, I would change it to an A-class. juan andrés 03:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good. Support. Hurricanehink 03:28, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Wow, those tables are good. 2005 Atlantic hurricane season statistics could learn a couple things from them. I assume Michelle made these; nice work. — jdorje (talk) 04:03, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I'd change the storm images to {{Infobox hurricane small}}, but that is pretty much it. Everything else is perfect. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:10, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
That would be a great idea. I could do it. juan andrés 04:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I've done it now, and I've changed the reference format to the more versatile Cite.php. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:45, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
FAC time? It looks pretty good. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
I added a graphical timeline using easytimeline syntax, although I'm not sure what's wrong with the bar for Typhoon Paka. Should there be an external timeline created, as in the manner of current seasons? Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:16, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

It could use more info to the storm sections, but it could be ready for FAC time. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane David

Hurricanehink expanded and improved this greatly. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 01:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I would say yes (if I'm allowed to), but there's not many pictures of impact. I checked online, and there are some, but they're all copyrighted. Does that matter? Hurricanehink 01:50, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I put it to A-class based on the good content and intro, and decent structure. More pictures would be nice, and maybe an Aftermath and Preparations section. — jdorje (talk) 22:55, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Next for FA-Class? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 01:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Maybe. I'll ask at the discussion. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Before that, damage pics are needed. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Needs more in general. See its FAC nomination which has some good suggestions. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2002 Pacific hurricane season

This has been nominated as a GA (the equivalent of A-class I'd say). — jdorje (talk) 04:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Which failed. It needs sources, overall. Additionally, a lot of the storm sections are pretty short. They should be expanded using tcr, two, and discos. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Joan-Miriam

I just completed a ground-up rewrite. I am not optimistic that we'll be able to find impact pictures. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 20:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

It's better than before, but there's too many sections without enough information. South America, Columbia, and Panama all are only 1-2 lines. Excluding the Impact section, the article is a solid B, if not A, but the impact needs a lot. One way you could fix that problem is combining sections, like putting Columbia in South America or Panama and Costa Rica in the rest of Central America. Wording needs improvements throughout the article, like referring Miriam as a reformed tropical depression as Miriam Part Two. The good news is it's getting there. Hurricanehink 22:22, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
I expanded the lead and combined some of the impact sections. There might be lots of Spanish stuff about this but I don't know. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Note: User:Tarret nominated this to be a good article. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:01, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Which failed. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 22:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

GA nommed again, and this time it looks like it could pass. The only thing it could use before anything higher than GA is just more info, particularly lesser antilles and South America. Here's a bit of Trinidad and Tobago info. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1929 Florida Hurricane

  • Strong yes Storm05 18:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
    • For what? A class? This is B class at the most. It is too disorganized and lacking and some places for anything higher. Hurricanehink 18:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
      • B-Class and possibly GA-Class because of the improvement of the article. Storm05 18:47, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

GA nom failed and dropped to start. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Dennis (1999)

  • If possible, could it get a Preparations section? The Impact section looks quite good (although the Lack or retirement section should be condensed with the rest of the text). Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Aftermath too. It's very far from A class. Hurricanehink 22:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

It needs sources for the storm history, and still needs preps and aftermath. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical Storm Kim (1983)

  • Nnnnnoooo way! This is start class, at best. Hurricanehink 22:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
It needs a lot more info. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Typhoon Maemi

  • Not enough here. Very far from A class. Hurricanehink 22:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
The above is still the same. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cyclone Larry

  • Too recent. It needs time to verify everything. Hurricanehink 22:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Now it needs to be updated using after the storm info. More organization would be nice. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1997-98 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

  • Not enough here. Very far from A class. Hurricanehink 22:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Every storm needs to have a decent summary. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1999 Pacific hurricane season

  • The article is structurally OK (I'd like a forecasting section, but that's just me), but there's so many grammatical errors that it really can't be A-Class at the moment. Also, it doesn't give meteorological statistics for the storms (such as duration, minimum pressure, etc.), which could be done by filling out the parameters for {{infobox hurricane small}}. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:08, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Forecasting is needed, but there's not much in the article. Maybe it could get to B class, but it's very far from A class. Hurricanehink 22:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

It needs sources and more info for each storm. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1989 Pacific hurricane season

  • Not enough here. Very far from A class. Hurricanehink 22:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
There's some tone issues. Discos and tcr's should be used to lengthen the storm summaries. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical cyclone

This article is quite good, and only needs minor cleanup in the Categories section to be A-Class and WP:PR material, IMO. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 21:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

  • *poke* Is it A-Class now? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
    • I don't know. It looks like it, it looks great, but we should bring down the size a lot before considering an FAC bid. Hurricanehink (talk) 11:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Now, after Tito's awesome work, it looks like A class. Anyone think otherwise? Hurricanehink (talk) 20:40, 6 November 2006 (UTC) Should we drop it some, given that the article is planned to be overhauled sometime soon? Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Most of the harsh work is done, but there's still a few things to tag, but which require knowledge of Chinese. Anyone here mind helping out finding actual refs for the {{fact}}s there? (The ref cleanup left to do is minor, but it will still take me most of the day to do it...) Titoxd(?!?) 22:10, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
    • I'll have a look. – Chacor 00:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Done, sources found for China's naming competition, that the "typhoon" first appeared in the Summary of Taiwan, and for the Arabic "taufan" (which appeared in the same ref as the Taiwan one). Still one left for the Greek one. – Chacor 00:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • More eyes for any discrepancies in numbers would be good too... Titoxd(?!?) 22:12, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Ok, as the references are now all up to par, after I ran through all of them and converted all 106 to {{cite web}}, I've raised the article to A-Class. Just a few final edits should get it ready to FAC. Titoxd(?!?) 07:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1957 Pacific typhoon season

Is this a B-class yet? I'm not quite finished with the descriptions, but it's come very far. Also, Jdorje, when I'm done writing storm descriptions, can you plz upload tracking maps for each storm? Icelandic Hurricane #12 22:58, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

It's not bad. It's start class and passable, but not B class. Is there any info on damages? Hurricanehink 23:56, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I only have what was there before for damages. I need to write the storm descriptions first, though. Icelandic Hurricane #12 00:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Oh, ok. Well, try and write as much as possible. Hurricanehink 00:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
How about now? Icelandic Hurricane #12 11:58, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
As a rule of thumbs, B class cannot be attained for a season article unless all storms have a summary. The wording also needs to be improved in places. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:16, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
OK, that can be done! Icelandic Hurricane #12 17:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Does someone know where i could find images of tropical cyclones from this season. I've looked, but no luck. Icelandic Hurricane #12 20:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Its before satellites - so pictures are going to be hard to come by; there might be the odd radar image at best.--Nilfanion (talk) 20:56, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
That's enough for me. Also, I've written descriptions for all the storms; is it a B-class now? Icelandic Hurricane #12 02:13, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Hello? Is it a bclass mow? Icelandic Hurricane #12 20:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Not quite. Wording needs to be improved in places. Some storm summaries are fairly short, like Mamie. All that is said is its formation date and ending date. Where did the storm go? Trix, Judy, and Lola also have this problem. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:43, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
All done with the summaries now. Icelandic Hurricane #12 18:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
What about Trix? Also, you need to get a thesarus! :) Every storm summary starts out with "Typhoon X formed in the Open Pacific". Other ways to avoid using formed include saying developed, a tropical storm was first observed, began its life, or an area of disturbed weather organized into a tropical storm. You also need synonyms for moved, strengthened, and weakened. Check you typos, there's a lot of them. Never change the date formatting. If you want to link to a date, use May 16, not tomorrow or two days later. If you want to change it up and not use the same date a lot, simply don't link to it. Just say two days later. Some phrasing simply doesn't make sense. On the penultimate day? Met its demise? Formed near the same position as Judy? Elaine was formed? At that exact moment? Those don't make much sense for tropical cyclones. The first two are a bit too dramatic, IMO. Rather than saying formed near the same position as Typhoon X (which should be used as little as possible), you could say, "On November 17, Tropical Storm Mamie developed over the open Pacific Ocean, similar to the start of Typhoon Lola." Or something like that. Storms can't be formed, they just form. For the last one, it goes with the rest of the article as well. When regarding tropical cyclones, they are so large that pinpointing exact figures are near impossible. You should always say, Tropical Storm X made landfall near Biloxi, Mississippi, not that the storm struck Biloxi, unless it did. For Della, when it crossed the date line, you should say something like, "As the storm was crossing the date line, it turned sharply to the northeast". Also, finally shouldn't be used too much in writing TC articles. First, it can exaggerate things a bit, and it is also improper and opinionated. What would be better is replacing finally with what was taking so long. If you said "Finally the storm dissipated", you could say, "After 15 days as a tropical cyclone, the storm dissipated". The reader can and should decide it was a long time, but there's no need to say something like finally. For a lot of storms, you skip ahead a lot. Let's take Mamie as an example. You go from it forming and moving northwestward to the storm peaking at 125 mph. You should elaborate a bit and say it rapidly strengthened, or if it was gradually, say it gradually strengthened. But isn't a good way to start a sentence, as seen in Mamie, Kit, Elaine, 9W, Agnes, Virginia, Shirley, Rose, and 1W. As seen in Agnes, don't let the reader you don't know why it happened. Just say it did. You can say that Agnes turned to the northeast, sparing a direct hit on the Chinese coast. 9W has an unusual opening, which isn't very suitable for an encyclopedia. In addition, three days long isn't terribly short. 6 storms in last year's hurricane season had a duration of less than three days. Basically, give the article a good read through, fix the rampant spelling errors, and try and make the writing like other seasonal articles. Wow! That's a lot of todo. Good luck with that! Hurricanehink (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Also, be sure to get rid of the she's. Tropical cyclones are genderless. Hurricanehink (talk) 19:51, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm so crazy, I put it up for GA! íslenska hurikein #12(samtal) 21:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

You know, that's not necessary... Titoxd(?!?) 03:34, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Or quite young. TimL 05:07, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Fine, I removed it, and I apologize. --Hurricanehink (talk) 13:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

It still needs all of the comments I listed above. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Effect of Hurricane Katrina on New Orleans

This article is in excellent shape, and could be the first of the Katrina articles to be featured, IMO. At the very least, it should be A-Class. Comments? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 21:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Now it's a GA. Any objections to A-Class? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 21:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Wow, very nice. I support A class. Hurricanehink 18:48, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I also support it being A class. Tcwd | Talk 22:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cyclone Olaf

If you guys havent noticed, I made the Cyclone Olaf article with a potential of B-Class or higher. Storm05 18:10, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

It's good, only a few bits of cleanup would help. For example, you may want to split the Storm history section into several paragraphs. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 17:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Dropped to start due to need for much more organization and sourcing. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cyclone Percy

Possibly ether B, GA or A class. Storm05 15:50, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I marked it as B class. All that needs to be done is fix some of grammar and spelling errors. Good job for a storm that caused no deaths. Hurricanehink 21:27, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I did a general copyedit and I think its ready for GA Class or higher, anyone agree? Storm05 19:06, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Nominated for GA. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 19:49, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Now a GA. So, should it be bumped up to A-Class? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 00:00, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Not quite A class. The spelling and grammar need to be fixed still. Hurricanehink (talk) 00:09, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
      • I went through the article and cleaned it up before GA status... are there any other mistakes I didn't catch? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 00:17, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
        • Oh, never mind then. If possible, the intro should be two paragraphs, and someone should aks Jdorje for a track map. Also, are there any more pictures? Those things are relatively little, so I guess A class sounds good. Hurricanehink (talk) 00:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Okay its A-Class, what it takes to get this article to FA-Class? Storm05 18:34, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Damage totals, more pictures, a track map, and more organization to the storm history. 14 lines is a little much for one paragraph. Also, more impact, if possible. There's only three paragraphs on impact. If that's all the storm did, then that's fine, but more would be nice. FA-Class is possible for this article, though it will have to wait. You should bring it up at the discussion page. Hurricanehink (talk) 21:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Based on the above criteria, it is missing cite web formatting for A class. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC) Downgraded to GA-Class because it still does not have cite web formatting. This is actually a requirement for GA-Class, so if cite web formatting is not added and the article is not cleaned up, it could be put up for review or be delisted. I'll probably fix the refs later. --Coredesat talk! 20:19, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Camille

Is it an A-class? Icelandic Hurricane #12 15:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, no. Good work with it, but too many sections have only one line. Overall organization is better than before, but the article isn't detailed enough for A-class. This was one of the most destructive hurricanes of all time. There should be more info on it. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:21, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Could it be a GA-class article? Icelandic Hurricane #12(talk) 15:27, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
We'll see, seeing as someone nominated it for GA status, but I would guess no. For a storm of this calibur, the standard is set a lot higher. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, it got turned down the GA class, but TimL copyedited it a bit and put in the fancy web ref things. Icelandic Hurricane #12(talk) 12:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
This only thing left, besides some other minor cleanup, is the aftermath section. I've started on this, but am still wrapping my head around all the info out there. Is it just me or does Camille not seem so impressive anymore in ligh tof Katrina? TimL 22:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, Hurricane Camille's TCCOTF is over. It definetly should be worked on more. I that if the Aftermath section is completed, this could probably be renominated for GA. Icelandic Hurricane #12(talk) 23:13, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I renominated it. Most of the reasons it got rejected were fixed. íslenska hurikein #12(talk) 20:45, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Now GA. íslenska hurikein #12(samtal) 11:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks like a possible A-class article. íslenska hurikein #12(samtal) 15:00, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

No way, it's too disorganized and there's not enough. For a storm of this calibur, much more impact is needed, especially along the Gulf Coast. Some places don't have sources. The wording isn't the best in places. It's not bad, but not good enough for A. Hurricanehink (talk) 18:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Well the 0.5 Version Editorial Team rated it an A-class for some reason, just to let you know. íslenska hurikein #12(samtal) 23:08, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, interesting, but I personally don't think it is A class. Anyone else? Hurricanehink (talk) 02:56, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

It needs much more info. For such an infamous hurricane, it's rather lacking. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Storm of October 1804

This may be a short article, but holds a lot of info in the impact section. Is this a possible A-class (or GA-class)? Icelandic Hurricane #12(talk) 15:26, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Inline sourcing and wording improvements are needed. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I hope this doen't make me look stupid, but what is inline sourcing? Icelandic Hurricane #12(talk) 20:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Citing sources from within the article. For example, look at Hurricane Floyd, especially in the impact section. The little number [7] or [11] represents the source you got it from. It looks like you or someone did it for the Typhoon Chanchu (2006) article, but they aren't done perfectly. Easy inline sourcing is as follows. If the source is www.nhc.noaa.gov, then you would put <ref name="nhc">[www.nhc.noaa.gov National Hurricane Center Homepage]</ref>. More advance inline sourcing is Cite web formatting. If it was the above example, then you would put <ref name="nhc">{{cite web|author=National Hurricane Center|year=2006|title=NHC Homepage|publisher=NOAA|accessdate=05-21|accessyear=2006|url=http://www.nhc.noaa.gov}}</ref> It's a bit more work, but it gives information so users don't have to go in the links. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:40, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
If that's what it means, then I have used inline sourcing in the article. Do you want me to do it the complicated way, or do you just want me to use more? Icelandic Hurricane #12(talk) 20:47, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
For inline sourcing, you source every last statement in the article. In the impact section, there are no links, so we don't know what info you got from which place. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:49, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Can this be renominated for GA? I've done almost everything that needed to be done, except for the track map and some refs. I don't think we can make a track map, but I asked Jdorje anyway, but he hasn't answered me. íslenska hurikein #12(talk) 20:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't even think it's B class. There's not enough inline sources. There's two uses of the word "likely". That should be avoided as much as possible. Writing overall isn't that good. Anyone oppose dropping it to start class? Hurricanehink (talk) 03:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

It needs more info in general. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical Storm Zeta (2005)

Given what happened with Irene, might as well bring the other storms of 2005 up here. To pick one at random... Zeta. Do people think A-class is appropriate?--Nilfanion (talk) 22:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

No comment. I still don't think a storm should be higher than GA class without a significant impact section, but that's just me. Hurricanehink (talk) 23:32, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Umm, that contradicts Irene being an FA Hink, FA>A isn't it?.... And no I'm not suggesting we submit this one to FAC--Nilfanion (talk) 23:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I know. Retrospectively, I don't believe Irene should have been made an FA, but that's in the past. I think this should be put up for GA, however. Hurricanehink (talk) 00:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Irene being an FA is more a flaw in the FAC system as it stands. Not notable enough is not a valid FAC objection and from what I've gathered any article which can survive AfD is an FA worthy subject (and we have gone with all named storms get an article now...) Irrespective of whether is should be an FA or not, the content is FA standard, the FAC didn't dispute that did it? The classification scheme is to do with quality only, thats why I believe this one is A-class - though I would wait until it is a GA before raising it further to A-class, it is likely that a GA nom will raise some copyediting issues (which I can't see). Could someone other than me and Hink comment on this one please?--Nilfanion (talk) 22:23, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, the discussion never ends, apparently... I personally see FA as a quality benchmark, so that's why I saw no reason precluding Irene to be an FA. But before I go away on a tangent, I say that it would be better to wait for GA to approve it or give back commentary before considering A-Class. (For future reference, {{GA-Class}} is not a prerequisite for {{A-Class}}, but it would be nice to do that just this once). Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I know GA is not a prerequisite, its just with these minor storms the only real difference between B and FA is copyediting. That means the GA nomination is useful as an outside contributor will probably give useful suggestions. I've put it up for GA, having that many TC articles on GA nom doesn't detract from the review quality.--Nilfanion (talk) 22:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Alright, it's almost A class, but I'd like a little more storm history. I personally like a lot of storm history, as it should be the main part of a fish storm article. Mainly, I would like to know how it became a TD. Was it a trough? Front? Extratropical low? Where did the precursor storm come from? That sort of info should be in either the TCR or in TWD's. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

The above is still needed. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical Storm Isabel (1985)

I don't see what's preventing this from reaching GA or A class. Is there something, or has no one thought about upgrading it? Icelandic Hurricane #12(talk) 21:37, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the latter. Upgrading articles to GA status should be done at Wikipedia:Good articles/Nominations. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Is there any chance of it beciming an A-class. I know some info can be added, but it needs a source. Icelandic Hurricane #12(talk) 23:16, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Not yet. It's missing cite web formatting, and more impact would be good. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
More info would still be nice. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Typhoon Chanchu (2006)

I couldn't help myself and put Chanchu up for GA. I doubt it'll become a GA though, due to its recent occurence and shortness in some sections. But, whatever, there's nothing to lose, and plus, it will get feedback on how to make it better. I hope that what I did it okay. íslenska hurikein #12(samtal) 00:58, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Just curious, why would you put it up for GA if you don't think it could become GA. We can give feedback here, and we're not wasting the GA people's times. Also, it shouldn't be B class. There's citations needed, and not enough info in the impact section. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

It needs to be updated and get some sources. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1991 Halloween Nor'easter

Did some fixing up; I think it's worthy of B-class. Any comments? íslenska hurikein #12(samtal) 22:02, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

For a storm that caused over $1 billion in damage, a one paragraph impact section is insufficient. No way is it B class. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:11, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Should we remove this from all WPTC things, given that it is now a meteorological article (not a tc article)? Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

It was still a tropical cyclone, so no, we should keep it under the WPTC still. íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal) 19:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok, just checking. Hurricanehink (talk) 19:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Stormfury

I just greatly expanded and referenced it. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I upped it to B class. Good work. You should nominate it for GA. Hurricanehink (talk) 23:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I did nominate it. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 22:51, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Now a GA. Have you any other improvement suggestions? Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 16:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
It looks pretty good, but not quite A class. The wording is a little unusual in the legacy section (cash cow, for example), and not quite encyclopediac in a lot of places. There's a few places without citations, so that's needed. Also, though it's a pain, Cite web formatting is needed for A class. All in all, not too much work is needed for an FAC run. --Hurricanehink (talk) 18:14, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I added a source for the {{fact}}s you added. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 21:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Good. Here's some things that could be changed. Try and use the active voice as much as possible. More should be mentioned in the hypothesis. Words like eventually should not be used. Exact dates are better. Who first hypothesized that seeding would weaken hurricanes? There's still some poorly written phrases, like "The next thing that the hurricane did", "For some reason, however, someone neglected to notify the press that seedings were not going on", "then a sort of "gun" mounted on the wings ", and a few other places. The word "some" should never be used. It sounds too informal, and better, more accurate words should replace it. "Today, the HRD employs 30 people and has a staff of 2.6 million dollars each year." doesn't make sense. Staff of $2.6 million? The article needs cite web formatting. Sorry, but that's a requirement for A class articles. There might be more, I don't know, but that's all I can think of with a quick read through. --Hurricanehink (talk) 01:29, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
The bulleted references are now in cite web formatting, and I adjusted the wording in the suggested places, and I fixed the error regarding the staff and budget. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 20:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm a little confused. They are in reference formatting, but not cite web. This is cite web (or book). <ref>{{cite book|author=Davies|year=Whatever|title=Title of book|page=81|accessdate=2006-07-05|publisher=Whatever|id=ISBN X-XXXXXX-XX-X}}</ref> So some of them have to be fixed. Also, was there any public reaction to the project? All-in-all, though, it's pretty good. Close to A-class. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I would like to see some online sources, as there are currently one. True, books are usually preferred, but online might provide more recent information. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Gilbert

I doubt this is a B-class, but I should always make sure. So, is it a B-class? Also, Hurricane Fifi's the new TCCOTF, just to let you know. íslenska hurikein #12(samtal) 12:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

For such a damaging storm, it needs a lot more info in the impact section. Hurricanehink (talk) 13:09, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
The above still applies. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical Storm Henri (2003)

Another of Hurricanehink's excellent articles. Already a GA, shouldn't it be A-Class now? Titoxd(?!?) 22:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Looking objectively at the article (yea right), it looks A class worthy. I might have found a damage picture as well. After a damage pic is in, A class sounds good! :) --Hurricanehink (talk) 23:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Alright, I added a pic. Now, I support A class. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Definitely A-class. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 22:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Alright, I put it at A class. Hurricanehink (talk) 22:17, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Up for FAC. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Marty (2003)

Did some serious cleanup here, and expanded storm history and impact, and cleaned up the references. It's B-Class now, but I don't see this getting any higher than GA with the information available. Should I put this up for GA? --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 06:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

A 2 paragraph intro would be nice. After that, GA sounds good. --Hurricanehink (talk) 13:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
I'll see what I can do. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 13:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
One more thing before GA'ing. The copyright status on that image is unclear. Nowhere in the site does it say that the image is free for use. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:13, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Removed the image (I didn't add it). I'll have to find something that is free for use to replace it with. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 01:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Yea, I think that Storm05 added it when he made the article. Good luck finding something. --Hurricanehink (talk) 20:46, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm thinking this may be good enough to become a GA despite having to remove the image, so I'll put it up for GA now. There's gonna be some kind of wait time between now and when it's actually considered, so I should be able to find a new image by then. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 22:26, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Yea, it looks GA worthy. Hurricanehink (talk) 22:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Woo, it's a GA now. Unfortunately, there really isn't much more information, so it probably won't get much further than that. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 22:26, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Information from discussions and the tropical weather outlooks would be a nice addition. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Atlantic hurricane seasons

I'm not sure why Storm05 put this here, but the article is clearly Start class until more is added. We discussed putting a records section there, which might raise it to B class. The same goes for the EPAC seasons. Hurricanehink (talk) 22:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Why not add a track pic like we did for the List of North Indian Tropical Cyclone Seasons. Storm05 14:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert

I've finally found some time to edit some, so this is my first real upgrade. I know it's not an amazing article or anything (nor that interesting of a subject), but I didn't think that it would still be considered a stub with the expansion I have done. And any suggestions for improvement would be appreciated. WindRunner 18:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

It's not bad so far... start class material. Here's some things you can do. First, what percentage of TCFA's actually become TC's? Next, it needs categories at the bottom. The whole thing could use inline sources, as well. Do you have any satellite images of TCFA's? That would be interesting. Otherwise, it's a pretty good article for such a topic. --Hurricanehink (talk) 18:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
More info would be nice, if possible. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Danny (1997)

Right now it's currently a B-class article, but with some fixing up, I think this can become an FA. I've already organized the article more and added metrication. I've started doing inline sourcing, but I still need to finish it. Once that is completed, I think this will pass through GAnom. After that, preps and aftermath can be added, and maybe some impact expansion. That should get to A-class. And anything I'm missing in my plan should get it to FA. Does that sound reasonable? Anyone who wants to help me can whenever. íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 23:26, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Impact pictures would be nice. I worked on that one a while back (added much of the content that is currently there), and it should be recent enough for sufficient good information (preparations/aftermath). --Hurricanehink (talk) 02:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
There, I did the metric and refs, plus some expansion. Without the pics, could this pass through GAnom (Cyclone Rosita did)? íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 18:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello? íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 21:26, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Nvm. íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 21:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

It's a GA now. It could use more info on impact. Two paragraphs for just the Gulf Coast is a bit short. It doesn't really describe any damage. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cyclone Vance

It would need more impact to be A-Class. Also, if the name "Vance" was retired, what was it replaced with? Free impact pictures would be nice. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 19:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I Have no idea what name replaced Vance and I doubt there are any free impact pictures for australian tropical cyclones. Storm05 14:10, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
You can probably work the replacement name from the current list, the fact it was on the Darwin list and knowledge of what storms formed around it. Impact pics are hard to get hold of but by no means impossible. A second satellite pic would probably help reduce that deficit. Other problems: This is an Australian storm, what Australian category was it? The wikilinking in the article is poor - use pipes to link to Exmouth, Western Australia not Exmouth, Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale not Category 4 and so on. There's numerous unexplained technical things, what is a "red alert"? That should link to somewhere appropriate or be explained. And I agree with Madeline, more impact would be very nice.--Nilfanion (talk) 14:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I know what the name was replaced with, it was Verdun. I had already put in the Australian category. I think another thing is that the units should really be metric instead of imperial because the cyclone happened in Australia. RaNdOm26 11:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

It needs more impact. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cyclone Rosita

Alright, now that the article is a GA (yay!!!!!), what else could be done for it to be an A? I'm guessing impact pictures are needed. RaNdOm26 17:06, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know. As soon as some pictures are found, it should be a GA. Maybe the storm history could be a little longer. 17:57, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

If possible, a damage pic would be nice, but it looks pretty good. Maybe A class with a copyedit. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Doubt it because damage pics in Australia are crown copyrighted and thus we cannot use them. Storm05 14:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
If you don't know what you're talking about, don't say it. Crown copyright only applies to Government photos and works of the Australian government. Private photos may be copyrighted or free, depending on the individual. – Chacor 14:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Thats still impossible because free private photos from Australia are non existant unless that person is a NOAA or US Goverment employee working in Australia (which i seriously doubt since there are very few or no NOAA or US weather or government centers in Australia) Storm05 14:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
"Private photos" meaning those taken by members of the public, individuals. Please at least make an attempt to know what you're talking about? – Chacor 14:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
And i still say thats still impossible, because the odds of indiviuals of putting their photos in public domain are very, very slim. Storm05 14:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
You obviously haven't heard of the GNU FDL, which Wikipedia runs on. Not surprising, since this happened after all. – Chacor 14:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Individuals putting their photos in the public domain isn't that slim. I emailed someone about a damage pic for Hurricane Fabian and they were fine with it. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:58, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical Storm Bilis (2006)

Is this B-class? I'd add pictures, but finding free impact pictures is proving to be a real pain. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 18:45, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I think so. íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 20:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm setting this at B-class unless there are any objections. I think it meets the standards. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 20:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Aftermath has been added, not much more I can do for preparations now. I can't really add a MODIS image, either, since there aren't any good ones (i.e., ones that actually have the entire storm in the frame). It's on GAN right now. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 05:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Now a GA. --Coredesat talk. o_O 20:05, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Now up on PR, because I want to be able to take this on a FAC run once all the storm history information is in. --Coredesat talk! 23:06, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Has the article been updated since the storm happened? All in all, pretty good, and probably ready for FAC once storm history is finalized. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical Storm Bonnie (2004) and Tropical Storm Leslie (2000)

I know they're GA class, but what, if anything, is needed for them to be A class? Hurricanehink (talk) 02:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, they are A-Class in my eyes!!!!! I think you should change "Sources" to "References" in the Bonnie article, and maybe adding more stuff for preparations in Leslie. RaNdOm26 16:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I changed Bonnie's. However, there's next to no preparations info on Leslie in Florida, mainly because it was a Tropical wave when it caused the damage. Hurricanehink (talk) 18:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
I haven't had a look at Leslie, but Bonnie needs a bit more to be A-Class. There's several statements that leave me thinking, "Show, don't tell", such as "...while several other islands issued tropical storm watches.[2]" Which islands? Another example is "Gas production was limited as well.[6]". After giving quite detailed statistics about oil production stoppages, it seems lacking balance. Also, the NHC references are missing publisher = National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in the {{cite web}} calls. But that nitpicking should be enough to push it up to FA-Class, though. Titoxd(?!?) 02:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
As always, thanks for the copyediting, suggestions, and an outside eye. I'll get on that. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

For Bonnie, MODIS pic in the IB (see the seasonal section). It may be worth cropping that image, if so upload to the same filename. For Leslie better imagery (the NRL will have some) a better impact pic if possible would be good (but not a biggie). For both two possibilities for extra pics: a radar image and a map of the FEMA declarations. On the text, in Bonnie, the metrication is a bit too precise and the final sentence "will be used in the 2010 AHS" is bad. For Leslie nothing major. For both a copyedit, some wikilinking and other minor cleanup.--Nilfanion (talk) 19:34, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I've replaced the image in the article. As for the crop, it's not really the best idea, as you can barely see the Yucatan Peninsula in the bottom of the image, and the Gulf Coast is obscured with too many clouds, so it serves as a navigation benchmark. I've upped Bonnie to A-Class now, by the way. Titoxd(?!?) 06:22, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

It's an FA now. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1999-00 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

Finally finished the whole damn thing!!! There's far too much stuff to summarise for Cyclone Hudah, so I've left it out for now. RaNdOm26 11:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

What else can I do for this article??????? RaNdOm26 12:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Summarize Hudah ;) BTW, assuming that's every storm, I upped it to B class. One possible thing to do is split the page by basin, which was discussed before. I brought the discussion up on its talk page. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
About the thing you said about the "infobox hurricane small" template. I have trouble figuring out what Category the storms belong to. Should the American scale be used, or should the Australian scale be used, or some "other" scale I don't know about? What website/s should I use to research this? RaNdOm26 09:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I've put in one template for Rosita. I chose Cat 5, and it's in the Australian scale. (Rosita is a Cat 4 in the US Scale) RaNdOm26 08:29, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I have put infoboxes for all storms. I also used 10-min winds, not 1-min, and the Categories are all based on 1-min wind speeds by JTWC. I still think there should be a mention of Australian category scaling in the Australian infoboxes. Could anyone please respond to this very soon?? And also, should units be changed from knots and nautical miles to km, km/h, mi, mph??? Glad if anyone can help. RaNdOm26 17:32, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Split it...--Nilfanion (talk) 19:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, please split it. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical Storm Otto (2004)

My first attempt on an Atlantic article!! How does it look, though????? RaNdOm26 11:12, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Whoa! How'd you write such a long storm history on a little storm? That's amazing. I'd like to say B-class and put it up for GAnom, but I don't know if everyone else would agree. Maybe you should check out Hurricane Philippe (2005) and Tropical Storm Lee (2005) for more ideas on how to write Atlantic storms. Good luck! íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 12:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your appreciation! RaNdOm26 14:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
No problem. Anytime. íslenska hurikein #12 (samtal) 16:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
  • A solid B, but a bit too technical IMO for GA. Titoxd(?!?) 22:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
It is pretty technical, but Hurricane Irene (2005) has a few technical terms too, such as "wind shear" and "convection". RaNdOm26 09:21, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Wind shear and convection are reasonably obvious terms (and are all but impossible to avoid). However "entrainment" for example could be avoided.--Nilfanion (talk) 10:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

It could use info from the discussions. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Dot (1959)

Dot 1959, written a while back, was listed as Start-class with the following comment:

Nice work. I'm not sure how much more there is out there, hence the start class, but not much more is needed for B class. Hurricanehink 02:07, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

The concerns raised in the to do section on the talk page have long since been addressed, and there seems to be no further information on this storm (given how long ago it was, I think that's fair). Is anyone willing to review this and see if it meets B-class? – Chacor 07:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I think this meets B-class. It's well-written and properly sourced, despite the lack of info. Merge the deaths and damages subsections, though. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 03:45, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

It could still use some more info. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cyclone Heta (2003)

Still waiting to be ranked. Im hoping for this to be GA Class or even a speedy FA Class. Storm05 16:08, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Those two classes need to follow Wiki process. And with the wording that's in the article, it's not going to happen. IMO, high-Start class or very, very low B. – Chacor 16:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
I think B-class will do for now. 16:10, 28 August 2006 (UTC)íslenskur fellibylur #12 (samtal)
A lot of it seems to be paraphrased from outside sources. It needs work before GA in my opinion. – Chacor 16:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I've start rated it due to the SPAG errors and many unexplained acronyms which would make no sense to a non-WPTC reader.--Nilfanion (talk) 16:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I think the article has improved and maybe at B-Class at least. Storm05 16:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Not B, needs more info. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Typhoon Saomai (2006)

I know this was somewhat recent, but the article looks pretty good after lots of people got involved in it. How does it look? --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 18:27, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

It looks good, and I think it's B class. However, an aftermath section should be made, along with any newer info on the storm, before anything higher. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
That will be very hard (but ReliefWeb might have something), but I'll see what I can do. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 23:15, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't find much useful info, but I'm still searching. It shouldn't be much trouble to add it later, but for now, Saomai's on GAC. --Coredesat talk! 00:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Given that it's a few months after the storm, has there been a recent check if there's updated info? Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical Storm Chris (1988)

I think this is a good article and its well sourced, I think this a mid or high B Class or maybe a GA Class article once I copyedit some things. Storm05 19:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

It's decent, but I don't think it's quite B. While it's well sourced, the writing and format aren't terribly good. There are too many stub sections that should either be expanded or merged elsewhere. Also, I'm not sure there's even enough info to justify it's existance. Aside from the storm history, there are only 4 reports of storm effects (excluding meteorological statistics). Hurricanehink (talk) 20:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

The above still applies. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Felix (1995)

This article was a previous WP:GACo. What else can be done to improve the article? 74.116.113.241 13:36, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

  • For A-Class/FA-Class, it needs formatting the citations to {{cite web}} and friends. It just needs a bit of polishing up, and a final copyedit, but it is almost there. Titoxd(?!?) 03:51, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Some more Bermuda stuff should be added. The NHC archives have a lot of stuff on this storm. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:10, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Any impact pics? Only minor copyediting really.. so A class with a pic.--Nilfanion (talk) 19:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

  • I severely doubt there are any impact pics since the storm didnot make landfall, if they are they are copyrighted (which we cannot use them), the only pics that can bring this article to A-Class is a second sat pic. Storm05 13:05, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
    • I don't know, there might be a newspaper pic from along the coast or Bermuda. I saw a couple impact pics (unusable) in the past that showed the erosion, so that's always possible. Hurricanehink (talk) 13:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
      • It's possible, but I wouldn't withhold A-Class if a free picture cannot be found. Titoxd(?!?) 05:55, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

It should use more info from the NHC local reports. I think they have info on Bermuda. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical Storm Chris (2006)

Again, another GA. What is it lacking for A-, and potentially, FA-Class? Titoxd(?!?) 03:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I think we should wait for the NCDC event reports. Right now, the impact section relies a lot on the Stormcarib.net unofficial reports, so it would be nice to get some official info. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:18, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm leery until after the TCR is issued.--Nilfanion (talk) 18:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Erika (2003)

We haven't promoted articles to A-Class for a while. Outside of a rainfall pic, what is this article missing? Titoxd(?!?) 01:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Rainfall and damage pic is the only thing I can think of, and given that neither of those are possible right now, I can't think of anything it's missing. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Is there a MODIS pic? A rainfall pic would be enough for A (damage pic fairly unlikely).--Nilfanion (talk) 18:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Given that no rainfall pic exists yet, should we up it to A, and add the pic later? Currently, it's an unactionable objection. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree, and have done so. Titoxd(?!?) 05:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Epsilon (2005)

Another GA. What else does it need for A-Class? Titoxd(?!?) 02:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Nothing meets my FAC criteria.--Nilfanion (talk) 18:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Comment: The article doesn't explain how the storm maintained hurricane status for so long. Sure, it says it was annular, but how did it resemble an annular hurricane over very cool temps. Is there an explaination yet? I think I read somewhere it was because it was subtropical in origin; maybe something to check out. Some places could use wording improvements; parts are a bit wordy, while other parts are lacking a bit. For example, the origin of the storm could be a bit longer. There's a jump between its peak intensity and when it weakened to a tropical storm. Why did it turn to the southwest (a turn not even mentioned in the article)? Impact and records could probably be merged. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
We can't give a reason without OR.--Nilfanion (talk) 15:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
So there is no reason yet? OK, nm about that. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:24, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
It could still use some more smoothening out in the storm history. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical Storm Lee (2005)

Meets my FAC criteria.--Nilfanion (talk) 18:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, after the HURDAT reference is formatted with {{cite web}}, sure. Titoxd(?!?) 05:53, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
{{sofixit}} ;) Besides we have a three man rule... Hink stop procrastinating and give in already!--Nilfanion (talk) 11:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, here's my review. It's certainly GA class, but I'm not convinced it's completely comprehensive (though it's close). The storm history, for example, could probably be expanded. Is there any more info before it developed into a TD (like TWO's)? The article suddenly goes from it forming to it degenerating to a remnant low a day later. Was there anything going on between the first advisory and when it became a remnant low? "...then turned to the northeast due to the effects of a non-tropical system". What affects? Was it an upper level low whose large circulation drawed it northeastward, a trough of low pressure, an extratropical storm? When it redeveloped convection, was it due to instability of the atmosphere? Less wind shear? Warmer water temps? The whole operational/post-analysis with how long it was a storm should be re-written and clarified a bit. It's bit confusing, and would probably be confusing to someone who doesn't know anything about hurricanes (like if Lee was on the main page and someone read it). The last sentence is a bit of a run-on. When did it become a remnant low? Where did it go after it degenerated into a remnant low? Just reading the storm history without looking at the track map, it's unclear at its motion, so a few locations along the way would be nice. The impact section (or lack thereof) could probably be merged with the Naming and Records, as done with Irene (05). It's good, but I'm opposing A class for now until these things are fixed. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

The above still applies. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Fabian

I just put it up for peer review. Could I get some feedback before I put it up for FAC? Hurricanehink (talk) 16:22, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Type in a fair use rationale for Image:Fabiannp1.JPG. Titoxd(?!?) 05:36, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Given that the peer review is going nowhere, how long should I wait to put it up for FAC? Hurricanehink (talk) 02:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

You should do as much as you can, and try to assess it and compare to definite FA's. I am no good at reviewing myself, unfortunately... CrazyC83 02:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd say wait a day or two more. If you don't get any comments, send away. Titoxd(?!?) 02:13, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

FAC time. Hurricanehink (talk) 17:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

It's an FA now. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recently added GA-class articles

Due to the significant number of articles that have moved from B to GA in the last couple weeks, I'd like to see the following articles reassessed to see if they can go to A or even onto FAC. There is a very low number of A-class articles and a high number of GA-class articles due to a lot of recent additions (and several more awaiting).

The list is as follows, in chronological order:

Any thoughts on them? CrazyC83 02:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Right off the bat, I remember leaving assessment comments in the talk pages for Karen and Danny. I haven't had the time to review the rest... Titoxd(?!?) 02:16, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Here's my thoughts.

  • Audrey- Not quite enough info. The impact section can probably be expanded, as it doesn't give much detail to the tornado outbreak. No on A class.
  • Linda- Needs a two paragraph intro, longer storm history if possible, make a records/statistics section, and find a way to remove some of the white space. No on A class
  • Alberto- Longer intro, and find a better pic than the GOES one. One those two items are fixed, I'll support A class.
  • Karen- I'm biased, so no comment, other than a MODIS pic should replace the one of it headed towards Canada (in the SH).
  • Gustav- Remove the white space in the preps section, and see if there's Newfoundland impact (it struck as a hurricane, after all). After that, I'll support A class.
  • Danny, Kate, Nicole, and Debby- No comment; biased.
  • Maria- It needs a copyedit. Phrases like "The extratropical Maria merged with..." make no sense. The impact should all be in one section w/o the sub-sections (they're too short to be separate). I'd like to see some more storm history, as it goes from development/TD in one sentence to hurricane in the next sentence. Such jumpiness is bad.
  • Ophelia- The impact section looks weird due to the pics. Maybe the US should have its own section (rather than Florida and NC). Impact in general should probably be expanded if it is to be called comprehensive. The aftermath section is currently a stub and needs more.

Hurricanehink (talk) 02:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

(Regarding Alberto) What's the GOES one? Do you mean "once" instead of "one"? I'm sort of confused. RaNdOm26 09:37, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
GOES is a program of NASA satellites, see Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite. – Chacor 10:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I already know GOES is a satellite. So, what is the GOES pic? RaNdOm26 11:08, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
This one. – Chacor 11:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Edouard (1996)

  • Another GA. The only thing IMO missing for A-Class status is a landfall radar pic. Nilfanion? Titoxd(?!?) 03:50, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone get the radar pic? Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Ernesto (2006)

  • currently its at B Class, what it takes to get this thing up to A class?. Storm05 18:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
A complete redo. The storm history is ok, but the rest needs to be updated with event report info. The Caribbean info section is lacking. Yea, basically a complete redo. Hurricanehink (talk) 18:33, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Best to wait for the TCR. CrazyC83 16:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Ioke

  • Whats needed for FA Class? Storm05 18:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
A complete redo, simply put. It was a decent article while it was active, but now that it's done, it needs a complete redo to ensure everything is correct. However, info won't be available until the winter or next year until CPHC and JMA issue their 2006 reports. Hurricanehink (talk) 18:33, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Correct. I'd hold it at B-class for now until the CPHC and JMA reports. Basin-crossing storms can be the most difficult and can take a long time to get the report out. CrazyC83 16:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Gordon (2006)

  • Whats needed for GA Class?Storm05 18:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
More sources and organization, for starters. Hurricanehink (talk) 19:06, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Bob (1985)

  • Currently its at B Class, whats needed for GA class? Storm05 18:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

GA now. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timeline of the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season

This is pretty good in its current state. It was nominated to be a Good Article and failed because the reviewer thought it should be a featured list instead. I agree with that and want to nominate it to be a featured list at some point in the near future. However, there are few issues that I feel should be discussed before the nomination happens.

  1. First, should there be satellite pictures? I don't intend to add a picture of every storm, only the nice pictures. However, is it not possible that satellite photos are unsuitable for a timeline?
  2. Second, the graphical timeline might be better placed somewhere other than the very top of the article, perhaps just after the lead above all text.
  3. Finally, the names of the authors of the tropical cyclone reports need to be added. I'm getting to that right now.

Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 20:02, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Satellite images might work, but what about having a track map for each month's activity? There'd be a map of just Arlene and Bret, one of just Cindy through Gert, one of Harvey through Lee, Lee through Nineteen, Stan to Beta, Gamma to Epsilon (with only Epsilon's track in November), one for Epsilon and Zeta's portion in December, and January Zeta. The graphical timeline might be better after the intro, or right at the beginning of "timeline of events". Be sure it mentions every time a storm dissipates. For example, it says Epsilon weakens to a TD and loses its convection, but it doesn't say when it dissipates. All-in-all, not bad, and though it's not a normal list it would probably work better as a FL than an FA. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:10, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I just finished adding proper author names. I'll double check for dissipations.
Another issue: Should, at the head of each month's section, be a brief summary. For example, for June we could say: "Two systems formed in June. Normally, a season has a June system every other year or so."
Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 20:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Yea, sure. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:55, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
If a set of monthly tracks is wanted I'll make them up. 2005 is my season after all, it can expect a quick response, if that is what consenseus calls for ;) Hink, bear in mind that not every storm in 2005AHS dissipated. Alpha did NOT dissipate, it was absorbed by a larger storm (Wilma). This should be seen as the model timeline imo - if we can get this one to FL status we can get them all to it (and any timelines of a similar quality should be brought here as A-class).--Nilfanion (talk) 21:16, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Huh, hadn't thought of that (good point), though the circumstances for which it fails to meet the criteria for being a tropical cyclone should be listed on the timeline. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:18, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Nilfanion, can we get the track maps to see how it looks? Titoxd(?!?) 20:40, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tropical cyclogenesis

So, GAC has stalled, and the peer review hasn't been necessarily elucidating for this article. What is needed for A-Class? Titoxd(?!?) 20:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Sources for every last statement. Sorry for the bad news, but there are seven paragraphs without sourcing at the end of them. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

GA now. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Andrew

Is current GA collaboration, would like to know how to bring to A-class and possibly FA-class. Tarret 21:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Expand the lede. Ideally, it should be about three paragraphs for a storm of this magnitude.
  • Try to merge in the records subsection into the rest of the storm history. I'm still ambivalent about the statistics section, because that one can be merged within the rest of the section as well. If there's enough data, split it into a subarticle, similar to Meteorological history of Hurricane Katrina.
  • Add more information about preparations. The Tropical cyclone Report (also called Preliminary Report) can be very helpful for this, as are the Billion-dollar storm Report and the Assessment Report.
  • Expand the impact significantly. The Assessment Report helps, as does info from the National Climatic Data Center.
  • Make the retirement section longer (see the text at Tropical Storm Allison, for example, for some boilerplate text.
  • Nuke all {{fact}} tags laying around.

Titoxd(?!?) 22:14, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of retired Pacific hurricane names

Could I get some feedback of which would be needed before I submit this to FLC? Hurricanehink (talk) 05:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

  • On the "listed by intensity" section, it says: "Of the storms in the Pacific whose names have been retired, two peaked as Category 1 hurricanes, one peaked as a Category 3 hurricane, three peaked as Category 4 hurricanes, and one peaked as a Category 5 hurricanes. Many storms of high intensities have not had their names retired because most Pacific hurricanes do not make landfall.". However, the table in that section only lists two Cat 4s.
  • Format the CPI citation.
  • In the "listed by total damage" section, a link to where the damage totals for each storm is available would be nice.
  • Refs for landfall intensities would be nice as well. Titoxd(?!?) 05:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I got all of that. Anything else? Hurricanehink (talk) 06:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Speedy FLC. Titoxd(?!?) 06:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Cool, I put it up for FLC. Hurricanehink (talk) 16:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Asessment log

[edit] See also