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[edit] Automatic delete candidates

(PROD-tagged) pages, culled from Category:Proposed deletion

Dated: November 22, 2006

  • Taekwondo Karate Association of Pakistan
  • Bholu Brothers

Dated: November 19, 2006

  • Sharique Naeem

[edit] Ongoing deletion debates

Deletion debates culled from WP:AFD and WP:MFD
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The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 11:09, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dure Sameen

Dure Sameen (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

The person this article is about is not notable based on the article text, google search[1] which returns 44 unique pages that do not mention the word "Wikipedia", or google scholar (0 results). John Vandenberg 00:38, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Strong delete, non-notable per WP:BIO. This reads like a resume. —C.Fred (talk) 05:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as both above. Also, the fact that the article was contributed by an editor who has made one single contribution (this page) is highly suspect. DrKiernan 08:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 16:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as per above, non notable, no achievements. voldemortuet 17:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletions. --   ⇒ bsnowball  10:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete non notable. NeoJustin 22:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Naeem Ahsan

Naeem Ahsan (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Non Notable Pakistani journalist. Very few google hits. I have personally read his articles in Urdu newspapers' IT sections which are usually translations from English articles but thats what journalists do: write articles in newspapers. Claims are unverifiable from internet as no. of GHits suggest voldemortuet 17:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletions. -- Mereda 08:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment, if we include into notability to help underdeveloped areas to obtain basic computer literacy it could be notable, but I don't find any evidence of that. Anybody else knows more? Alf photoman 15:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Even if we consider the subject notable, the article is short of WP:V. voldemortuet 17:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Whispering 01:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 19:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Muhammad Yahya Waliullah

Muhammad Yahya Waliullah (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Non Notable Pakistani bureaucrat. Notability not asserted. Insufficient GHits, mostly coming from WP mirror sites. voldemortuet 16:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete Even by searching through Arabic (his original name language), no sources were found. ← ANAS Talk? 16:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletions. -- Mereda 08:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm watching, but I don't think I count. :-) -- Visviva 08:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom; does not appear to meet WP:BIO. -- Visviva 08:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete,can be re listed if notability is ascertained Alf photoman 15:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Mubashir Zaidi

Mubashir Zaidi (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

NN Pakistani journalist. The article is autobiographical voldemortuet 15:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Keep Vote changed to Neutral (see discussion below). 'Not only a Los Angeles Times and BBC News reporter, but he appears to have been the subject of notable persacution of journalists in Pakistan.[2][3] --Oakshade 18:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Does being a reporter for BBC News and LA Times assert notability (unless there is a notable achievement)? The persecution claim does account for a case of notability. There are about 2000 Ghits for the search "Mubashir Zaidi". Many include news reports written by the subject of the article himself which are available online. The links related to persecution claims, come from a single incident reported in news stories which was not even mentioned in the article. The article is started and mainly contributed by the user with the same name as the subject of the article. voldemortuet 20:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • I think a reporter for major news outlets such as those, not to mention a producer for a major network in one of the most populous countries on earth, is a major assertion of notablility. Of course we'll find articles written by the subject because he's a reporter who write articles. Yes, it appears that the subject might have written this article himself, but that doesn't mean the subject isn't notable. And the persecution claim orginates from Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, which is independent of this person. --Oakshade 23:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • I'll regard a journalist from these outlets notable only if he/she has got some notable achievements. Although autobiography doesn't account for deletion but it does show conflict of interest. The main notability about the subject (to which I agree)is the persecution incident which is perhaps one of the few things about the article that are verifiable. Although persecution claim is a part of a long series of events related to persecution of journalists in Pakistan[4][5]. Unless reliable sources are found to validate the whole article, it remains a potential candidate for deletion. As an alternative I suggest to stub the article focussing on the subject as a target of persecution in Pakistan till the whole contents in the article are verified and sourced. I would also like to hear from some experienced wikipedian on the notability of journalists. voldemortuet 16:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • This touches on an inherent problem with the recent attempted deletions of journalists. It's ironic that we use articles from The Los Angeles Times and BBC News as examples of published works from reliable sources that establish notability, yet a person who actually writes those published works is considered not-notable to some people. --Oakshade 16:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • This Mubashir Zaidi has no relation with the reporter of Los Angeles Times. That's why BBC and Los Angeles Times references are irrelevent.


  • The editor who created the article has edited the article claiming that the subject has no relation with the person having the same name reporting for LA Times. The above comments from an unregistered user is stating the same claim. voldemortuet 20:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • That is very interesting. Two journalists with the same name who are or have been stationed in Pakistan. Who would've thought? I know the name might be common in south Asia, but still... Kudos to the editor/creator for pointing that out. Respect! --Oakshade 21:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


  • Thanks a lot to all of you who took interest in this article. Yes I created my page myself. If you think it should be deleted, then please do it. I have no objection. Mr. Mubashir Zaidi, reporter of Los Angeles Times is a Islamabad based journalist and we haven't met. My home town is Karachi but I am living in Sharjah and working for Geo TV. I would be happy if someone like to contact me mubashirzaidi@hotmail.com... Mubashir Zaidi 5:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


I have read articles of Mubashir Zaidi in daily Jang and sports magazines. I can remember that he won a TV Quiz ten years ago. I recognized him by his photograph on this page. He is surely that Quiz master. It was a news for me that he is now a TV Producer. Wow... Don't delete his page because we admire him. Humaazeem

  • I am feeling sorry to take part in this debate. Mubashir Zaidi was a contributor of daily Jang, daily The News, weekly Sports Times, daily Public, monthly Cricketer and many other newspapers at a time. Actually he was a cricket statistician and also compiled a book. I have a copy of 1996 edition of Wisden (people say it cricketer's bible) and I can see his name there. nasrrullah 8 December 2006
  • Straightforward Delete - fails standard, as I see it, set out in WP:BIO. Eusebeus 00:11, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - article does not assert or establish notability of subject. --Chondrite 06:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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