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Contents 1 Automatic delete candidates 2 Ongoing deletion debates 2.1 Dnyaneshwar Vidyapeeth 2.2 Kushan Mitra 2.3 SriPada Pinakapani 2.4 The Bangalore Quiz Group 2.5 Kahini 2.6 Brahma Kumaris Info 2.7 List of companies based in Lucknow, India 2.8 Gharjamai 2.9 Kayal Raja Muricken 2.10 Eminent Kaapu 2.11 Ullas Das 3 Category discussion debates

[edit] Automatic delete candidates

(PROD-tagged) pages, culled from Category:Proposed deletion

Dated: December 14, 2006

• B T Desai
• Sagar Sen

Dated: December 13, 2006

• Nambidi
• Sivani the international school

Dated: December 12, 2006

• India's emergence as BPO giant
• Koramangala Methodist Church
• Swadheen Kshatriya
• Vasanthi Jayaswal
• Govinda Prabhu
• Ashwani Gujral

Dated: December 11, 2006

• The Great Indian Retail Dream
• Galidevara
• Nungambakkam Cultural Academy Trust
• Punjabi killaz

Dated: December 10, 2006

• Varhādi
• Vazhappalli inscription
• Vasthavam
• Sitamma Konda
• Acharya Rameshwar Jha

Dated: December 7, 2006

• Narendra Nath Chaturvedi
• Bhav khaana
• Anuj
• Marathwada Institute of Technology
• Madhavan S. Nair

Dated: December 6, 2006

• Arvind Rajaraman

[edit] Ongoing deletion debates

Deletion debates culled from WP:AFD and WP:MFD

[edit] Dnyaneshwar Vidyapeeth

Dnyaneshwar Vidyapeeth (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

NN unrecognised 'university'. Reads like an ad. Was tagged for notability since June. Prod removed without useful comment. Hornplease 07:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - yes, you too can not only get your degree online, but can be a prof too! And, if this is what passes as English at the "university"... SkierRMH,08:22, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as advertising. JIP | Talk 08:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. MER-C 09:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - "without useful comment" - bad faith trolling on part of nominator. Bakaman 14:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • It seems to be a fairly accurate description of the edit summary given on this edit. Uncle G 17:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Spammy and no assertion of notability. Prolog 15:04, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Comment It has been reported by the Times of India as a "fake university"[1] and yet there's at least some evidence (like a government website[2] - see end of that page) that its training products are accepted in the job market. Either way, I don't see solid evidence of notability. Can Bakasuprman provide anything to help with that? Mereda 17:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: I have no opinion on this particular article, but as for the nominator's comment that "Prod removed without useful comment", I need to point out that Hornplease yesterday prodded a significant number of articles (including this one) without giving any prod reason in the template where it belongs, and for the most part with only "prod" as his edit summary (the instructions say "Use an informative edit summary"). I find it annoying when browsing WP:PRODSUM not to be given any substantial reason, or, as in these cases, any reason whatsoever why something is proposed to be deleted. Upp◦land 17:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I apologise for inconveniencing you. Please note that all the articles I prodded, as a glance at any of them would have confirmed, had notability templates on them since June. I thought no further comment was required; I never use the bot myself. Hornplease 17:58, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. --Gabi S. 16:38, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per the person with the script handrwriting FirefoxMan 16:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kushan Mitra

Kushan Mitra (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

NN journalist. Prod removed, presumably because he won an award, in its first year of inception. Doubt that confers notability per WP:Bio. I implore people to consider that if this goes through, every minor journalist will be considered wp-worthy. Note WP:Bio also calls for multiple independent awards. Hornplease 07:42, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete NN person, nn award, not much else... SkierRMH,08:23, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. MER-C 09:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SriPada Pinakapani

SriPada Pinakapani (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Nominated for speedy but appears to have claims of notability, No opinion Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 07:33, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. -- Mereda 17:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep It needs tidying up, but he's obviously recognised as notable in his field. I've added some links. --Mereda 17:53, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Notable personality. Article needs cleanup and wikification. - Parthi ^{talk/contribs} 01:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Padma Bhushan = notable.Bakaman 02:56, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Bakasuprman.Hornplease 08:04, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Very Strong Keep-Padma Bhushan winner. Nileena joseph ^{(Talk|Contribs)} 17:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Bangalore Quiz Group

The Bangalore Quiz Group (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Contested prod. Idea for merging with Quizzing in India rejected. A quizzing group that is most probably not notable enough to deserve an article on Wikipedia. Google test doesn't establish notability. I could find three news items, all of which were covered in "Metro Plus/Metro News" sections of the newspaper[3][4][5]. Delete as non-notable. The group is already mentioned in the article Quizzing in India. utcursch | talk 10:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete fail WP:CORP. James086^{Talk | Contribs} 11:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. MER-C 11:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC)\
• Delete per Utcursch. Not enough here for its own article. Risker 16:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kahini

Kahini (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

No notability justification for including in English-language encyclopaedia Akihabara 12:56, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

• Normally, I'd say disambiguate but nothing in the wiki contains the word, so delete as an article on a name with no notability or assertion thereof. MER-C 13:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Dicdef. Delete per nom and MER-C. Moreschi 13:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as dicdef, no need to disambiguate. SkierRMH,07:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. -- Hornplease 08:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brahma Kumaris Info

Non-notable website. Lack of secondary sources. If relevant, material could be merged into Brahma Kumaris after deletion. (Note: that article and involved editors are in the evaluation stage for an ArbCom case. See WP:RFAR#Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University) ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 01:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete and merge any material based on secondary sources to Brahma Kumaris, as nominator. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:42, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Fails WP:WEB, if possible delete under CSD A7. Tarret 01:12, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Brahma Kumaris. SkierRMH 02:18, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and merge as per nom, and if AfD fails it needs a hell of a lot of clean-up. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 04:12, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - fails WP:WEB. MER-C 04:47, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Notable article. Plenty of independent google hits. The article was only created a mere 24 hours ago. Let's give it some time to develop before debating whether to axe it. Looks like there are already some interesting sources given at the bottom of the article - if given time, more sources will likely be appended as well. Smeelgova 06:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC).
  • Comment - no, it doesn't have many google hits - a query on "Brahma Kumaris Info" returns hits on info about Brahma Kumaris and not information related to the webpage Brahma Kumaris Info (brahmakumaris.info). The search string "brahmakumaris.info -site:wikipedia.org -site:brahmakumaris.info" (excluding wikipedia and self-references) returns more relevant results, and those aren't too many: 287. Most of which are link listings and message board postings. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 13:29, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment search for link:www.brahmakumaris.info or link:brahmakumaris.info shows zero links to this site. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 17:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Clearly using wikipedia for advertisement purposes. It goes against [6] and it does not have any credibility (as far as notability of the author,degrees,level of expertise, etc.) avyakt7 15:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

— Riveros11 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Delete non-notable and reads as an advertisement. — Seadog 16:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete in agreement with Jossi's 'no links' comment. IF there are good sources showing that the group the site says it represents exists is notable then I'd suggest refactoring the article to discuss the group. Since their site isn't notable I think this is unlikely. Antonrojo 18:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom Baristarim 19:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Merge. It does make page one of Google for a search on the 'Brahma Kumaris' [7] but despite references on Rick Ross, Cult Information Center, The Cult Awareness and Information Centre and other counter-cult or cult-watch experts, it is probably too early to feature it - so would fail WP:WEB. As there is a documented history going back to the 1930s, I suggest merge with Brahma Kumaris or move to new article on counter-Brahma Kumaris activity and/or page for support groups for cult survivors as per Unification Church, Scientology controversy etc. 195.82.106.244 02:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

  — 195.82.106.244 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Delete does not meet WP:WEB criteria #1. Sethie 06:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. utcursch | talk 10:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. -- Hornplease 08:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

• Merge with Brahma Kumaris RaveenS 23:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. WMMartin 18:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. It can appropriate to have more than one article on a particular cult or religious group. The Scientology page, for example, currently includes links to some 55 distinct wikipedia articles. The article proposed for deletion hosts information about the Brahma Kumaris organization, current and former members beyond the group's beliefs, practices and history as covered on the Brahma Kumaris page. Specifically, many ex-members have written personal accounts of their experiences, as well as narrating the traumas of other ex-members unable to provide their own accounts, their conflicted lives having ended in suicide. While the content of such pages may (and have been) debated, these references exist, and properly belong to a discussion that considers the cultlike aspects of this particular group. These resources have been aggregated at the BrahmaKumarisInfo website,[8] representing the movement to disseminate knowledge about the group's cultlike behaviors. It is the name of this website that gives the page its title. The high activity of this site, involving thousands of posts from hundreds of former and current members, and splinter group members and ex-members, justifies an additional article about the cultlike behaviors that can be found within the Brahma Kumaris as well as their human, legal and social consequences. Duality Rules 04:56, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • This user has only 27 edits, all in Brahma Kumaris articles. — Duality Rules (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. (talk) 03:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

• Keep or Merge In viewing the current Brahma Kumaris it reads like an Advert of the Cult. I agree with the above by Duality Rules as it does have a large data base and seems to offer support services to the full spectrum of this area of beliefs and given the current condition of the Brahma Kumaris article the need is there as the cult members seem to be sitting on the article.LogicUser 06:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

— LogicUser (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Keep The Brahma Kumaris have a history of attempting to suppress information about them, even from their own literature, as is clearly seen on the Brahma Kumaris entry and supporting discussions. BrahmaKumaris.info is the most extensive and diverse, independant source of information on this religious cult, and as such is worthy of recognition in Wikipedia Howiemac 03:31, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

— Howiemac (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

[edit] Gharjamai

Gharjamai (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

A very, very vague article. I don't even know what the heck its actually meant to be talking about. There are no references stated and barely any pages that link to it Debaser23 11:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I am still working on it. Links will soon be up.

Suggest adding "formal tone" status rather than deletion ? Pete Orme 11:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

• Keep but rewrite - the term seems to be of note, and even a fairly perfunctory Google search turns up some useful material about it, but the article at present is rather POV and too informally written. ~Matticus ^T_C 11:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Comment - If this page wants to have any chance of survival I think we need more people writing it than Xghostfacexx because so far that user has been the only editor. Debaser23 12:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

• Keep and Clean - Searched Google, appears to be a valid term. Needs some formal tone and be written more from the NPOV. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 12:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. -- Mereda 18:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. It's not a English-language term. It's a term used in many Indian languages (Hindi/Bengali/Gujarati/etc.) for a man who lives in his in-laws house, instead of his own. Most of the stuff in article seems to be exaggerated. There's a movie called "Ghar Jamai", though. utcursch | talk 18:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
• Comment The term is used in subcontinent with different pronounciations and synonyms. In Urdu the word "Ghar Damad" is used where damad is the urdu word for son-in-law. The pronounication "ghar jawai" is also used. voldemortuet 18:52, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and comment - The gujju tranlsations are horrible, but it seems notable.Bakaman 07:03, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - It's not an English word and IMO not relevant in an English language encyclopedia. - Parthi ^{talk/contribs} 02:03, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kayal Raja Muricken

Kayal Raja Muricken (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

Of doubtful notability, unable to find a non-wiki ghit. Also a mess (which I tagged). Akihabara 07:42, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. -- Hornplease 08:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - fails WP:V. MER-C 10:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Just H 19:02, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep cleanup not a reason to delete.Bakaman 23:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment You haven't addressed my main point - notability. Why is this notable? Akihabara 02:58, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - Non-notable. - Parthi ^{talk/contribs} 01:58, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep The article makes clear assertions of notability (Indian agriculture) and the man is pre-internet. All that I've found in a search is a passing mention of him[9] in the context of land redistribution by the govt of Kerala - "It includes 1959 acres of kayal lands reclaimed by Muricken, which was declared surplus and distributed among landless farm labourers in 1975." It needs some reliable sources. Mereda 19:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eminent Kaapu

Eminent Kaapu (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

incomprehensible list, primarily NN members, defined as notable -thus inherently pov? - of relatively minor subcaste. Prod removed without comment by user with single edit. Hornplease 07:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. -- Hornplease 09:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - zero context, unreferenced and unwikified. MER-C 10:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
• rename - List of Kaapus.Bakaman 18:07, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete NN no references, etc. TSO1D 23:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - No context - Parthi ^{talk/contribs} 01:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ullas Das

Ullas Das (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) — (View AfD)

NN author. Prod removed without comment by user with a very few edits, largely in related pages. Bringing it here. for discussion. Hornplease 08:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. -- Hornplease 08:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - fails WP:V. 0 non-wiki ghits in Bengali, 11 non-wiki ghits in English. MER-C 10:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - Non-notable. - Parthi ^{talk/contribs} 02:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category discussion debates

• Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 December 3#Category:Foreigners in India