Wikipedia:WikiProject Dallas/General

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[edit] Community Naming Conventions

various, Dallas -> various, Dallas, Texas
Per the standard naming conventions, communities within Dallas, such as Pleasant Grove, Dallas, Texas should be named in exactly that manner. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 20:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello, thanks for your interest in the project. The naming of neighborhoods in Dallas has always followed an easy principal outlined from The Manual of Style's naming conventions section:

Use common names of persons and things Convention: Use the most common name of a person or thing that does not conflict with the names of other people or things. Rationale and specifics: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names)

Specific information on place naming conventions can be found at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places) and at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (settlements). However, the current consensus on the matter of naming of communities and neighborhoods is per location.

When I first started working with Dallas articles, I moved Deep Ellum to Deep Ellum, Dallas, Texas trying to do the exact same thing. It was shot down, much to my disdain at first, but later I realized the logic. If there are multiple things with the same name, we just use a disambiguation page. As you can see from the list of neighborhoods, the standard for Dallas neighborhoods is as follows:

Neighborhood name if there are no other articles with the same name

Neighborhood name, Dallas if there is another article with the same name. As with all disambiguation pages, take into account the importance of the articles there and decide if there is a dominant one. If so, (like Dallas), it should just have a link up top for disambiguation. If a dominant article cannot be decided, a disambiguation page should be created and the articles should be moved accordingly.

Are you interested in working with us here at the project or are you doing administrative work across projects? drumguy8800 C T 20:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Just administrative work. There's a (bad; i.e., somewhat misguided) WP:RfD which relates to one of the communities, and both the (informal) US communities guidelines and the formal California communities guidelines use the double-qualified names for communities within a city, such as Hollywood, Anaheim Hills, and La Jolla. But if Dallas takes a different stance, that's acceptable. May I suggest that the project create redirects from [[Community_Name, Dallas, Texas]] to [[Community_Name, Dallas]] so that those expecting the doubly-qualified names will still see the appropriate article? — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 21:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)