Wikipedia:WikiProject Cue sports
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Welcome to WikiProject Cue sports. Some Wikipedians have formed this collaboration resource and group dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of cue sports (pool, snooker and billiards) and the organization of information and articles on this topic. This page and its subpages contain their suggestions and various resources; it is hoped that this project will help to focus the efforts of other Wikipedians interested in the topic. If you would like to help, please join the project, inquire on the talk page and see the to-do list below.
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[edit] Goals and scope
- Goals
- Coordination of the creation and maintenance of articles on cue sports
- Establishment of a clean organization of all relevant articles and categories, including their relationships to each other
- Fostering of article improvement
- Promotion of spelling conventions (within articles)
- Expansion of the number of articles available, to cover presently under-represented topics
- Promulgation of a base article layout that is consistent and clean, with formatting conventions, for all cue sports articles (via an article "template")
- Creation of useful Wikipedia templates for use in cue sports articles
- Clear and logical article categorization [in progress already]
- Transition of main article (and category) from the grossly ambiguous Billiards, to Cue sports (presently a redirect to Billiards)
- Scope
The scope of this WikiProject may be relatively hands-off in the case of cue sports subtopics that already have their own WikiProjects (e.g., WikiProject Snooker), whom this WikiProject will work closely with.
- Pocket billiards (pool) games, such as eight-ball, nine-ball and one-pocket
- Snooker and English billiards
- Carom billiards games, such as three-cushion billiards, straight-rail and five-pins
- Obscure or historical billiards-family games such as bagatelle and bar billiards
- Recently-invented billiards-family games such as bumper pool
- Related non-billiards cue games, such as bocce pool
- Related non-cue billiards games, such as finger pool
- Possibly also non-billiards, non-cue games that are ancestrally-related and which are not (unlike golf) already covered by an extant WikiProject; such as croquet, lawn bowling, bocce and other non-team lawn games, and their indoor progeny, such as shuffleboard, curling, bowling, pachinko, etc. Definitely low-priority, however.
[edit] Ongoing activities
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[edit] Guidelines
[edit] Authoring & editing
[edit] Spelling conventions
All articles and categories within the scope of this WikiProject should adhere to certain WikiProject Cue sports article and category spelling conventions (Don't worry, it has nothing to do with UK vs. US English!). The super-short version:
- The game is "nine-ball" (likewise eight-ball, black-ball, one-pocket, etc.) — not "9-ball".
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- Non-compound-noun game names are not hyphenated (bank pool, carom billiards, English billiards)
- The ball is "the 9 ball" (likewise the 15 ball, the cue ball, the solid balls, etc.) — not "the 9-ball" or "the nine ball".
- Other numbers should be spelled out: "a nine ball run to finish for a fifth place finish", "the number twelve shakebottle pill".
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- Don't use (gramatically optional) compound adjective hyphenation here (i.e., with numbers), as it is too easily confused with a game name — not "a nine-ball run for a fifth-place finish".
Please see the actual guideline for more details and the rationale for this level of consistency control.
[edit] Notability
Please read and follow the WikiProject Cue sports notability recommendations and advice on compliance with Wikipedia Policies and Guidelines (This is not an Official Wikipedia Notability Guideline, but following it may well save your article from deletion.) The super-short version:
- If he/she/it isn't important, don't make an article (or section) on that topic.
- Don't pollute articles with games you and your friends made up, rules variants peculiar to your home town, novelty games, gimmick equipment, spam or non-neutral statements.
- There's no need to split out into an article everything that possibly could be an article; no one needs a four sentence "article" about chalk.
[edit] Use the Glossary to make links
Articles within the scope of this Wikiproject will inevitably be using terms of art specific to the cue sports. A good resource for making links to words that are not self-explanatory for the uninitiated is the Glossary of pool, billiards and snooker terms. In order to make such links, a specialized syntax is used, as follows:
[[Glossary of pool, billiards and snooker terms#Word or phrase you are linking, exactly as it appears in glossary|word or phrase you want to display]]
Thus, if one wanted to wikify "scratched", the following markup would be employed: [[Glossary of pool, billiards and snooker terms#Scratch|scratched]], which when saved would look like this: scratched. Note, though, that only words or expressions which might be unfamiliar to those reading the article should be wikified. In any case, try to avoid overloading articles with specialized terms.
Using the glossary to define terms will greatly reduce redundant "definitionitis" in article after article, enable newcomers to the topic to find consensus-edited definitions in a central location, and keep old hands from becoming bored to tears reading things they already know.
[edit] Article "templates"
To the extent possible, all cue sports articles should be based on the WikiProject Cue sports basic article template or a more specific one [forthcoming] (That said, these templates are only suggestions, not an official Wikipedia Guidlines. The templates are [will be] here to help you focus and to get you going, especially if you aren't yet certain what to write or in what order, or where to begin. But mainly, we just want you to write articles!)
[edit] Cue sports conceptual hierarchy
Cue sports articles and categories will be arranged in relation to each other by way of the following hierarchy. This hierarchy is not perfect in every way for every conceptual purpose, but is entirely adequate for our purposes here. Note that some items appear more than once; see in-section footnotes for explanations. See "Major articles" and "Major categories" for extant actual major articles and categories.
- Key:
- [Bracketed] items show relationships to other sports probably not within the scope of this WikiProject.
- Italics indicate a relationship that may be relevant to articles (e.g., History sections), but will not be represented in categoryspace.
- Bold indicates the four main divisions of cue sports for Wikipedia article & category purposes (and the overarching topic itself).
- [Ancient non-team lawn games]
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- [Modern non-team lawn games (lawn bowling, horseshoes, golf, bocce, croquet, etc.)]
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- [Non-cued indoor adaptations of non-team lawn games (bowling, shuffleboard, curling, etc.)]*1
- Cue sports (i.e. cued indoor adaptations of non-team lawn games)
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- Ancestral early variants using a mace instead of a modern cue*2
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- Obstacle billiards
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- Bar billiards
- Bumper pool
- Bagatelle
- (other variants)
- Carom (carambole, pocketless) billiards*3
- [Non-cue tabletop ball(s)-and-obstacles games (pachinko, pinball, etc.)]
- Carom (carambole, pocketless) billiards*3
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- Straight-rail
- Three-cushion
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- Balkline games
- English billiards*4
- Pocket billiards*5
- (other variants)
- Pocket billiards*5
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- Pool*6
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- Nine-ball
- Eight-ball
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- Black-ball
- One-pocket
- Finger pool*1 (?? or is this actually a carom game ??)
- (other variants)
- English billiards*4
- Snooker*7
- (other variants)
- Snooker*7
*1 Finger pool, though technically a non-cue game is a direct descendant of billiards, and uses otherwise identical equipment.
*2 To be covered in Cue sports#History; not enough can be said (and cited) about this to warrant a separate article. On the slim chance that this does spawn enough articles for a category, that category should be at the same level as carom, obstacle, pocket and snooker under cue sports.
*3 Carambole games evolved from pre-bagatelle, croquet-like tabletop obstacle games. Within categoryspace and for most purposes in articlespace it is treated as one of the four main divisions of cuesports.
*4 English billiards is a hybrid carom/pocket game, and we treat it as a variant of both equally. Same goes for Cowboy (billiards)
*5 Pocket billiards began as a variant of carabole billiards.
*6 Though not one of the four main subcategorizations of cue sports for our purposes, pool is obviously one of the top subjects and will likely represent the bulk of the articles in the cue sports articlespace. It is not ranked with snooker at the top level under cue sports, because it does not have the consistency and monolithic subculture that snooker does, it is a blanket term for a class of games played with pool equipment (eight-ball, nine-ball, etc.), and the terms "pocket billiards" and "pool" are used as synonyms in the industry.
*7 Historically and technically, snooker is a variant of pocket billiards. However, as an organized sport and subculture it has a life of its own and does not significantly overlap with any other form of cuesports, even the closely-related pool and English billiards.
[edit] Avoid creating unnecessary articles
For instance, unless someone has have a wealth of reliably sourced information about the composition, history, importance, differences between different kinds, alternatives to, etc., etc., chalk, then we almost certainly do not need them to create a Chalk (cue sports) article.
[edit] Do split articles that are getting unwieldy
The entire topic of cue sports aside from snooker was once represented mostly by a single long article at Billiards. It was sensibly broken up into sub-articles and that work is still ongoing. So, for example if the eight-ball articles becomes unwieldy and there is enough sourced material available about [[eight-ball#Blackball|blackball, consider splitting the article into two.
[edit] Don't unnecessarily duplicate lots of informaton
Articles about games or specific classes of games, for example, do not need to reiterate the entire history of cue sports, just the history of that particular variant.
[edit] Articles within this WikiProject's scope
See "Cue sports conceptual hierarchy", above, for organizing principles.
[edit] Major articles
These are the largest of the cue sports "master" articles, from which many other articles descend. Not surprisingly, it bears a strong resemblance to the organization of the cue sports categories.
[edit] New articles
Please feel free to list your new cue sports-related articles here (newer articles at the BOTTOM, please). Any new articles that have an interesting or unusual fact in them, are at least over 1,000 characters and cite their sources, should be suggested for the Did you know? box on the Wikipedia Main Page. Listings may be removed after 30 days.
- Irving Crane
- Three-ball
- Artistic billiards
- [several others]
[edit] Categories within this WikiProject's scope
See "Cue sports conceptual hierarchy" for organizing principles.
[edit] Major categories
These are the largest of the cue sports "master" articles, from which many other articles descend. Not surprisingly, it bears a strong resemblance to the organization of the cue sports categories.
[edit] New categories
Please list any new cue sports-related categories here. Listings may be removed after 30 days. It is advised to discuss the idea of creating new major categories on the talk page before creating them.
- Category:Billiards organizations
- Category:Billiards non-player personalities
- Category:Billiards tournaments
- Category:Carom billiards
- Category:Pocket billiards
- [many others, mostly national variations under players, and more specific (pool, etc.) variants under organizations, etc.]
[edit] Project Resources
- Cue sports article spelling conventions|Cue sports article spelling conventions (draft guideline)
- List of wanted cue sports bios — the biggest task on the To-do list.
- List of wanted cue sports organi[z|s]ation articles — needs to be fleshed out more fully.
[edit] Templates
[edit] Fill-in-the-blanks default articles
- Cue sports article template [forthcoming]
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[edit] Article talk page banner
This banner should be placed below any more specific ones (e.g. for WikiProject Snooker) and above any less specific ones (e.g. for WikiProject Sports).
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| {{Cue sports project}} |
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On talk pages of cuesports articles (other than snooker articles — use {{Snooker project}} instead). |
[edit] Stubs
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On stub articles related to cue sports (except if snooker-related — use {{Snooker-stub}} instead. | |
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On stub articles about people related to cue sports, such as pool players or billiards book authors (except if snooker-related — use {{Snookerbio-stub}} instead. DRAFT VERSION IS here; has to go through a proposal process first. |
[edit] Navigation
- {{pool tournaments}} - On every pool tournament main page. DRAFT VERSION IS here.
[edit] Infoboxes
- {{Infobox pool player}} - Infobox for pool player articles. DRAFT VERSION IS here.
[edit] Userboxes
You might like to add a userbox to your userpage:
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| {{User WikiProject Cue sports2}} |
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On your user page (or your userbox subpage). |
[edit] Admin
- {{Category redirect3}} - put at top of categories slated for rename, deletion or merging (subst and edit as needed, if target category does not exist yet).
[edit] Other
- Tournament bracket diagrams, single-elimination:
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- {{Round4}} - 4 players
- {{Round8}} - 8 players
- {{Round16}} - 16 players
- {{World Snooker Championship Rounds}} - 32 players (may need minor adjustment for non-snooker games)
- Tournament results diagrams
... [See 2005_Mosconi_Cup — where do these charts come from?]
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- {{Current sport}} - for ongoing tournaments; warns that article may be updated frequently as results come in.
[edit] Participants
Please feel free to add yourself here, and to indicate any areas of particular interest:
- SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ — originator of this WikiProject and one of its principal coordinators; a league eight-ball player
- Fuhghettaboutit 12:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC) -- Professional pool player (generally retired for a real career). Dabbler in three cushion (high run 13). Expert "Pool Teacher" at allexperts (Q&A column). Main contributor/creator of billiards, Rack (billiards) Glossary of pool, billiards and snooker terms (forked from billiards), Artistic billiards, Irving Crane, George Balabushka and Jean Balukas. I have quite a billiard library and can provide resources upon request.
- ChaChaFut 02:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC) -- cue sports enthusiast, some time ago winner of a couple of amateur rotation tournaments, and particularly attracted to 3-cushion carom. Frequent contributor of many sports-related Wikipedia articles.
- RebSkii 13:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC) i'm currently working on the Asian Games pages and i'm a member of the Wikiproject:Sports Olympics. so i'll be contributing on Asiad and Olympiad related articles. i might as well make a cue sports templates for the Asian Games.
[edit] Relationships to other WikiProjects
[edit] Parent WikiProjects
[edit] Descendant WikiProjects
[edit] Similar WikiProjects
- WikiProject Golfers (golf is distantly related to the cue sports)
- WikiProject Board and table games (for games played on tables rather than in them)
