Wikipedia:WikiProject Climate change

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WikiProject Climate Change is aimed at improving Wikipedia articles related to climate change and global warming. The intention is that ultimately the major articles for the topic will become featured articles.

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[edit] Goals

  1. clarify and improve topic structure
  2. ensure accessibility to the lay reader - with a simplified version and/or appropriate main article/daughter article structuring of scientific detail
  3. add more scientific detail (and sources) in appropriate articles
  4. develop some neglected aspects of the topic
  5. ensure NPOV

[edit] Tasks

  1. create topic structure for global warming / climate change
  2. reduce duplication of materials across related articles
  3. develop material on costs of global warming and mitigation of global warming
  4. add the {{climate change}} notice to the Talk pages of related articles (see Templates below and list of articles with template added)

See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Climate change for details and discussion. See also changes in linked articles.

[edit] Requests for comments on pages

This section is for short notifications of pages with problems, or where some attention is needed. If you list a page here, put a longer description on the pages talk page.

That's progress - but I see a similar case for merging radiative forcing into solar variation. Alternatively, if it isn't to be merged, I would suggest cutting it down to the IPCC definition and alternatives, and making it a clear daughter article of solar variation. (currently it's not even linked) Rd232 20:27, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
RF definitely shouldnt be merged into sol var (I will defend that one to the death... :-). RF started as the IPCC defn and I think misc skeptics added the other stuff, which I'd be happy to lose. William M. Connolley 10:35:25, 2005-07-31 (UTC).
Fine, but then let's tighten that article's focus and link it properly. Rd232 12:41, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
There's a Category:Climate forcing. Do we need to do anything with that? Rd232 17:18, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

All pages should disclaim that the information contained within is only theory and not fact

[edit] Request for review of article on "Adaptation to global warming

Well, I was "bold" and extracted the "adaptation" text from the Mitigation of global warming article into a new article Adaptation of global warming. Within minutes, the new article was put up as a candidate for deletion on the grounds that it was a "how-to" article which violated WP:NOT or that it was original research which vilated WP:NOR. Other people said that it was not encyclopedic.

I have addressed these issues by expanding the article significantly and provided references to sources. Hopefully, this will convince those who voted for deletion to change their minds.

Just in case it doesn't, would you take a look at the Adaptation to global warming article and then vote to keep or delete the article?

If the vote is to delete the article then I will bring much of that text back into the Mitigation of global warming article which will make it longer and harder to read (which is why I created the new article in the first place).

Thanks.

Richard 05:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inline links vs footnote3

I'd like to draw peoples attention to a slow dispute I'm having with our old friend SEW on Solar variation and ice core over the use of inline links versus his pet "footnote" project (there was a brief fight over at Medieval Warm Period which is now an ugly compromise). At one point DF disliked them enough to revert them out, but has gone quiet recently.

My view is that they are bad for the reader (2 clicks not one) and bad for the writer (a far more complex scheme than just adding in a link; if you *do* add an inline link they all require a cumbersome renumbering) & I'd like to get them out, and certainly stop them creeping in any further. But I seek your opinions...

William M. Connolley 19:00, 16 October 2005 (UTC).

Footnote3 is (thankfully) now officially deprecated - see Footnotes. Elvey 23:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Climate change/global warming structure

I propose the following issues and possible solution:

  1. "Global warming" can mean (a) recent anthropogenic climate change or (b) the generic phenomenon of planet-wide increase in average temperature
  2. "Climate change" can mean (a) recent anthropogenic climate change or (b) the generic phenomenon of global climate change or (c) the even more generic phenomenon of global, regional or local climate change
  3. "Climate forcing" means essentially any factors which affect climate

Currently, we have climate change for generic global climate change and global warming for recent anthropogenic. Climate forcing I'd proposed to get rid of because contentwise it duplicated climate change; it was redirected to radiative forcing, which was objected to and reversed. Climate is not much more than a definition.

So, how about

  • Merging climate forcing into climate, as factors affecting climate (meaning 3 and 2c)
  • Keeping climate change as essentially "global climate change" (meaning 2b)
  • Keeping global warming as essentially "recent anthropogenic climate change" (meaning 1a/2a).
  • The distinction between meanings 1(b) and 2(b) isn't terribly clear in practice, since global changes in average temperatures don't occur in isolation from other climate changes, so we can ignore meaning 1(b), or maybe add a note on the GW page.

The argument for separating recent CC/GW and long-term/generic CC is that many of the long-term factors don't apply to the debate on recent CC. Though I could imagine a page that merges it all into one working too. Rd232 18:28, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm generally in favour of this (my dislike of the climate forcing page is longstanding; I did attempt to merge it but it has essentially no valuable content IMHO). The question of GW is a bit tricky: I think everyone coming to it wille xpect it to be about the current warming. To put that into context, mention of the last 1000/2000 y is needed. Whether the (currently brief? I haven't looked in a while) mentions of previous "GW"'s is useful is rather moot... perhaps they should go into the cl ch page. OTOH (having now looked) the section is brief and poss useful. William M. Connolley 21:57:38, 2005-08-23 (UTC).
No objections. Dragons flight 04:22, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Topic structure

See also: Glossary of climate change, Category:Climate change, changes in articles linked from project template

Current topic structure:

[edit] Global warming

[edit] Climate change

[edit] Changes made

Reverted back to separate articles. Loss of a lot of information (and potential information) which is not available (or would not be appropriate) on the radiative forcing page.
So how about merging with climate change, as originally proposed?

[edit] Templates

What to type What it makes What it's for
{{climate change}}
Talk
This climate change-related article is part of WikiProject Climate Change, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to articles on Wikipedia related to climate change and global warming. You can help! Visit the project page or discuss an article at its talk page. We are focusing on WikiProject Climate change.
The project notice designed to be placed in the talk page of any article that has been or should be edited as part of this Wikiproject.

[edit] Contributors

  1. Rd232
  2. Dragons flight
  3. William M. Connolley
  4. Carwil
  5. Singkong2005 - mainly edit on international development issues, starting to look at climate change.
  6. Hardern
  7. Alex 15:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

  1. ^ Cerveny, R. S., and R. C. Balling. Weekly cycles of air pollutants, precipitation and tropical cyclones in the coastal NW Atlantic region. Nature. 394, 561-563.

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[edit] Scientific Peer Review - Recent requests for review

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[edit] Pages needing attention

[edit] Meteorology and Weather

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