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[edit] Sorry

I Am on a Public computer at a highschool, our teacher makes us use wikipedia for everything as i am a senior and contributor to wiki, i am on here editing vandalism by the freshman,sophmore,juniors. I apologize for this and please keep that in mind from this IP address. I have an account on wikipedia, Lorddemon. Contact me via user talk if you have any questions - This is me.Lorddemon 15:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia

11 == what

I have removed the link to 5 star drugs because it looks like spam--BozMotalk 11:49, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Context should be more General

A lot of the content on this page seems to apply to specific implementations as opposed to wiki generally. For example:

user-editable "source code", which is also the format stored locally on the server

I don't know of any wiki that specifically doesn't store the wikitext, but it's conceivable that some implementation would not, and would instead preserve the "parsed" markup. Perhaps I'm being too picky, but other examples exist as well. I believe the example has already been mentioned about implementations that regularly purge old histories. I think a small effort should be made to make it clear when certain features, even if highly common, may be implementation specific, and do not actually apply to wiki in general. My $0.02 Bmearns 20:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)..

[edit] I'm still gettin to know other wiki's

but they don't all preserve all changes for very long. I know on CommunityWiki where I'v been working lately they only keep revisions about 2 weeks or so. a lott MeatballWiki pages, too. you click on other revsions and there are like none available. so, I might wann change the fourth paragraph to refelct that tho I haven't read most of this article yet. skizznologic3.1 19:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Wikipedia examples

Wikipedia is used in many examples throughout the text, but it's not until toward the end that it's explained what it is and why it may be relevant. Should a quick blurb at its first use (such as "Wikipedia, a wiki-based encyclopedia, ..." be included? Granted, people will probably know what it is, seeing as this article is posted *on* wikipedia. However, from the standpoint of the article, it shouldn't immediately be assumed that the reader knows what wikipedia is. Especially since this article could appear elsewhere (given that it's liscenced under GFDL). So I added a blurb along these lines in the article. Thoughts?

--Matthew0028 22:29, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you. We shouldn't assume that the reader of this article knows or have heard of wikipedia, or that the reader is reading it here. Shanes 22:39, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Information annealing

This sounds a lot like the concept of information annealing (where I added a reference to the concept of wikis in the preexisting wiki entry for information annealing), am I right? (I wish you had a keyword search applying to one wiki entry only so that I could quickly find whether information annealing is mentioned in the wiki entry, for example.)

--Digression from a tangent 22:29, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

The search function you request is included in your web browser, press ctrl-f on Microsoft Windows machines to access it. -- stillnotelf is invisible 02:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Wiki" in Firefox

I notice that this page has recently been protected from editing by newer users, presumably because of vandalism. I would suggest that given the uncontroversial nature of the subject being detailed this article is attracting new vandals because of the way it is accessed through firefox (and perhaps other browsers as well). Until recently, typing "wiki" into the address bar of Firefox brought up the main page of Wikipedia, and now it brings up this. Any vandals which might otherwise have gone to the protected main page now come here. It's not a problem for people like me who generally only check their watchlist, but it might be wise to figure out why "wiki" now comes here, and change it back if possible given that most people who type it will be looking for Wikipedia, rather than this particular article. - Hayter 20:35, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Just a side note to Firefox's behavior: when a user types a term into the address bar that is not a URI, Firefox does an I'm-Feeling-Lucky Google search on that particular term. Googling "wiki" brings up this page as the first result and is, therefore, the I'm-Feeling-Lucky result. So basically this behavior is dependent upon Google rather than Firefox. Vordhosbn 15:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I disagree- since "wiki" is not native to wikipedia but a concept predating wikipedia i think it is apropriate that one is directed to this page for typing "wiki". on the issue of easy access to wikipedia using firefox; Firefox now has a plugin for its search engine toolbar that allows you to choose between different search engines, one of those is wikipedia. i use it all the time and highly recomend it. to add wikepedia to your search engine tool in your firefox interface, go to the search box(not adress box), click on the search symbol(usually the google "G") then scroll down the menu to "add engines" and you will find a list of search engines to add. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.72.113.24 (talk • contribs) 07:34, 18 April 2006 (UTC +8)

[edit] Vandalism because...

Vandalism is happening because Googling 'wiki' which previously brought up the main page as the first hit now points at this page. 84.68.195.64 11:51, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

This issue has been fixed. Harryboyles 09:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

No it hasn't 66.97.203.30 13:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Poor phrasing

as users are bound to add incorrect information to the wiki page is easily misread conceptually as as users are [legally] bound to add incorrect information to the wiki page. Changing to incorrect or disputed might help bounce the covert legally more quickly. Another option: are soon bound. MaxEnt 21:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


[vandalism Removed]

[edit] Wikify redirect

The wikify page currently redirects to this page. Given that wikify is a commonly used verb? and generates over 400,000 hits on google (and was used today in my office by a non-geek) it seems appropriate to expand on it.

Defined in the wiktionary. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sploggens (talk • contribs) 02:37, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] wiki wiki photo + wikify

deleted the photo as it didnt add anything and in a REAL encyclopedia you wouldn't have a photo for somehing like that (i know why it was there, but it isnt needed)

also, wikify redirects here, and its pointless.

Aw, c'mon. Don't be so rigid. Put the picture back. It added some humanity to the definition and broke up the textual monotony.
I liked that picture a lot. (cascader)
Man, this is the future, accept it, embrace its benefits, or don't, and hide off like a hermit or something. Our encyclopaedia can have images - it's not limited by printing costs. So don't delete it to keep this 'pedia like the old ones are.

I think it's intensely stupid that this article is protected. Give me a break.

[edit] Redundancy

"...allows users to easily add, remove, or otherwise edit all content, very quickly and easily..."

Does anyone else feel that this sentence is a bit redundant?

[edit] 'Wiki' in dictionary

"In English, it is an adverb meaning "quickly" or "fast"."

Really? Not in my dictionaries! Could someone please either confirm this statement with evidence, or confirm that it should be deleted.

Hi! I could not find this version of the meaning of the word wiki in any dictionary either. (29/05/06) - I believe the statement in question is incorrect. (nor have I yet heard anyone use the word wiki to refer to anything other than it's original English meaning; ie (from wiktionary): Noun : wiki Any website based on any kind of Wiki software which enables users to add to, edit and delete from the site's content quickly. )

Nor is WikiWiki, or any other silly word

[edit] The quote in the markup/display example

What are those two lines from? Are they possibly from Foundation by Isaac Asimov? 72.40.101.236 05:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is.

Thanks. I finally picked up another copy of that book and I *just* got to that part... 8 hours too late. Damn.

[edit] What is the future of this technology (Wiki)

All are invited to share there knowledge.

Should read "their". (Minor spelling error).

[edit] Vandalism

At the very end of the opening, right before the contents, someone has posted this line three times: "Hey kids, if you're reading this from school, tell your teacher you want to jizz on her face!" I attempted to correct it by clicking on "edit this page," but the text was nowhere to be found. Someone more tech savvy then myself should really look at this.

Thank you to whoever fixed it, it's now gone.

Would someone, please, reverse the last edition? Somebody has erase the beginning of the article. Thanks. --Oop 13:34, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

How will we ever fix vandalism on wiki? By making all the articles protected? Maybe articles written by IP only people should require confirmation before it goes live. MrBobla 07:04, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Wiki is trash anyway. All the protected sites are done so by biased morons who don't want any other truth but their own. To prevent vandalism is to destroy wiki.

-G

To allow vandalism destroys wiki. --Daniel Olsen 07:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reasons for delisting

Hi all,

I am delisting this article as a good article because I feel it does not conform to the well-written requirement of the good article criteria. My problems with the article are pretty much entirely focused on the lead, so they should not be too hard to fix. Specifically:

  • The term "*A template" is introduced without proper explanation of the term (or a wikilink).
  • There is a stray bullet point in the lead.
  • Wikitext is quoted and italicised in contrast to the Wikipedia manual of style.
  • The table, while certainly appropriate and helpful, interrupts the lead (as does its caption attributing the quote).

However my problem is not just with the style of the lead. Overall, I found the lead difficult to read. I think there are probably some good elements in the lead but it needs to be rewritten with a real focus on introducing the article to those who may not be familiar with the subject. Please feel free to renominate the article once these issues have been addressed or you can seek a review if you disagree with my objections.

Cedars 02:41, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


I think that the term 'wiki' used throughout the article ought to be debolded. The article lacks consistency in the bolding of the term 'wiki'. --Porqin 18:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Query about website address

This article explains how Wiki software is a simplification of HTML, and gives a diagram to show differences between these sources of software. Can some one please explain why it is, if Wikipedia uses wiki software as opposed to HTML, that the address for a wikipedia site begins with the initials for "hypertext protocol"? Also, should't this article have the section stating that Wikis follow true hypertext be removed, because, if wikis are written in wiki software and not hypertext mark-up language, the links in such media are "Wikilinks" and not "hyperlinks"? ACEO 19:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

HTTP is for the transfer of hypertext (naturally), the information transferred to your computer from the web server IS in HTML (check the source code by going Tools >> View Source (in IE). Wiki's are written in wiki markup language and saved to a database. Upon request the wiki markup language is parsed into HTML (changing [[Water]] to <a href="/wiki/Water">Water</a> and '''Text''' to <b>Text</b>). Wikis don't use use wiki software as opposed to HTML, wiki software just changes user inputted wiki markup into hypertext markup (and user inputted wikilinks to hypertext links). -- Tsuite T/C 12:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Linux wiki link

I've just removed a link to a Linux wiki pages index, because the whole thing was in (I think) Hungarian. Site url had TLD .hu by anonamys, 18 July 2006 @ 20.18 GMT

[edit] Capitalization

The capitalization of Wiki/wiki seems to be pretty random.
Or is there a pattern that I just haven't noticed yet? --Frescard

[edit] Wiki markup section

In this section it's noted that:

"Many people switch between wiki engines, from one to another. Because of the difficulty in using several syntaxes, many people are putting considerable effort into defining a wiki markup standard (see efforts by Meatball and TikiWiki)."

Having followed the links, it is not clear at all that many people -- that's a WP:Weasel phrase -- are putting in effort. I don't think it is true. And it's not clear Meatball or TikiWiki are actually trying to make a standard -- TikiWiki is simply defining its own standard and Meatball has a short list of bullet points a couple of Meatballers have posted. That is not "putting in considerable effort". This whole section is weasely. Hence will be doing a harsh edit on this in a second. — Donama 05:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I remember a standardization thing a while back (there was a mailing list and such with various wiki authors and we discussed it a bit). It never took off, unfortunately. I'm guessing it is more due to lack of time in the parties involved then lack of effort. To be honest, this whole article looks like it was written five years ago... mayby I can update it a bit... RN 07:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikify redirect

This redirect is unhelpful. I want to know the syntax to mark an article that needs wikifying. Entering 'wikify' as a search word should take me to a something looking like {{wikify|September 2006}} instead of here. JMcC 16:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki = Wicked?

Could there be an etymological connection between the Hawaiian-Language term “Wiki” and the New England slang “Wicked”?

See Wikipedia article on Wicked as a New England slang term. Common example: “That car is wicked fast.”

See also the Wikipedia article on Hawaiian-language concerning the New England Missionary’s development of the Hawaiian language.

Why are wiki pictures so slow to open these days?

I wish to write an article on the little known island nation of Port-O-San. This tiny Island in the caribian was long under the control of Egidio Ruberosa, a military man who seized control of the Portosanian government and who immediately promoted himself to "25 Star General, presedente and supreme high mystic ruler and commander of everything" Egidio Ruberosa, upon his passing due to natural causes, was forced to cede power to the Garjia family - Graciela and Fulgencio who now rule Portosan. Among their reforms has been to increase production of portable toilets to the point where the Island of Port -O-San is now the largest manufacture of said toilets and also leads the world in refurishing and cleaning them. Needless to say the soil of Port-O-san has become extremely rich and furtal.

[edit] Patent falsehoods promote philosophy

This article is fat with opinion, to the point of contradicting itself. The reason is that some of the article's authors seem intent on promoting an ideology.

"Most wikis are open to the general public without the need to register any user account." "There is arguably greater use of wikis behind firewalls than on the public Internet." "The open philosophy of most wikis..."

Most? Would that be the most that are open to the general public or the most that are "arguably" behind firewalls?

"It is therefore better to promote plain-text editing with a few simple conventions for structure and style." "It is somewhat beneficial that users cannot directly use all the capabilities of HTML, such as JavaScript and Cascading Style Sheets."

It is better to promote one form of editing for what purpose? It is beneficial to whom? MudBath 07:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The meaning of Wiki Wiki

Maj: that wiki wiki thing is wrong Maj: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki Maj: Wiki Wiki" is a reduplication of "waka waka"[citation needed], a Hawaiian-language word for fast. Maj: cant cite that Maj: its wrong Maj: http://wehewehe.org/gsdl2.5/cgi-bin/hdict?a=q&r=1&hs=1&e=q-0hdict--00-0-0--010---4----den--0-000lpm--1haw-Zz-1---Zz-1-home---00031-0000escapewin-00&q=fast&j=pm&hdid=0&hdds=0 Maj: awiwi is fast Maj: and no where in our biggest dictionary shows waka waka Maj: i mean wiki is also fast but Maj: nothing for waka waka


In my Hawaiian Dictionary (Pukui and Elbert UH Press 1986) "waka" means sharp or serrated. Wiki or wikiwiki does mean quick or swiftly. To do something quickly is "ho'owiki." Hawaiian words are often the same in the noun and adjectival form.

Waka waka is vandalism that slipped in at some point after the semi-protect. Wiki wiki couldn't be a reduplication ofwaka waka. Its definantly a reduplication of wiki. I've changed it. --Limetom 21:07, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
True. re ho'owiki - the ho'o is the standard 'ōlelo verb marker, so if one does not know a verb but the corresponding noun or adjective, simply putting "ho'o" in front of it is likely to be at least understood by the few people in the world who know mor 'ōlelo than English. Reduplication in Polynesian languages generally strengthens a word (wakawaka would be "more waka than just waka), but this is no necessarily correct in all cases (such as lomi, to massage, lomilomi, masseur, lomilomi nui - literally "massage-massage-great" -, a traditional somewhat tantric Hawaiian massage technique.
What I don't know is this: whether there is an etymological connection between wiki and "quick" or whether they are false cognates. I'd love to put it on that page, but I'm not 100% certain - "quick" is such a basic concept that wiki being a loanword itself seems somewhat absurd, but then Pukui/Elwert list some 6 additional words for "quick" which are unconnected to wiki, and exclamations to make a person speed up are among the first words that cross langage barriers ("andale!" and "dawai!" are usually inherently comprehensible from context alone for people who don't speak Spanish/Russian). Dysmorodrepanis 17:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

What is it is changed to Waka Waka? One would then have to change Wikipedia to Wakapedia. Perhaps, like the use of the word Google (to "Google" something"), Wiki has become part of the language, BASED on Waka. Any thoughts?

[edit] WikiBio?

What we need is also a WikiBio. A place to put our biography for public and/or family future generations. These biographies will show future generations what life was life across the world.

[edit] wiki was a scifi robot

The 1970s Saturday morning television science fiction series Jason of Star Command [1] featured a pocket-sized robot designated "W.1.K.1." and referred to a s "wiki" in dialogue. A screenshot image of the filming prop is here [2]. As far as I have been able to determine, there is no connection between this use of the term wiki and the usage discussed elsewhere in this entry. Should it be added as a second definition/description? Lonn.myronuk 17:15, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Wiki" as a verb

I hear "I'll wiki this" or "Just wiki it to find out..." a lot now. Has anyone else run into this use? SpikeZoft 06:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Richdex ???

Today, Richdex the Open Free Online Directory is, by far, the world's largest wiki; the English-language Wikipedia is the second-largest

I have a very hard time buying this assertion. It looks to me like Richdex is a Google-ad filled wikipedia wannabe. Unless someone can demonstrate otherwise, I suspect that this is simply an empty boast to drive traffic to the ad content.

I especially have a hard time believing that the team of 132 users have been able to generate 3.9 million articles in the nine months since the domain name was registered. Now a computer program generating individual pages filled with google ads... That I can believe. But I don't think it should count a viable wiki to be listed here. --Pwiscombe 19:48, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Evaristus It is amazing to be part of this page making. I am here for now expressing my willingness to make useful contributions as time goes on. However this is my first time to write something here. It is worth letting fellow wikis that my professor directed us to make use of wikis and comment. December 7, 2006 NY ESC

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