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Lots of users use that method, the conversation isn't meant to be read by users other than the ones involved so there's no problem in it.--Andeh 12:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC-4)

OK, I probably won't be able to sway you..--Andeh 12:28, 26 June 2006 (UTC-4) Image:sad-tpvgames.gif*sulks off*Image:sad-tpvgames.gif
Just to drop in as an uninvolved third person, who found this conversation interesting but hard to follow ;) My usual policy is to reply on the other person's talk page and copy the reply onto mine. That means I get a complete record of the conversation. It is quite common that I find myself referring back to past conversations, so that's pretty useful. My talk page gets pretty busy as well so it would take me ages if I wanted to track down replies all over the place. Also what Where said, I think of my talk page as a bit of a history of me, I can see what I've been involved with etc. Petros471 12:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC-4)

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[edit] You are wrong, he did not listen to me

I have to remove his illegal warning because I have a permission from Wikipedia in Florida. He committed a crime by making discriminating and he failed to listening to me so I have to call Wikipedia again tomorrow to file a complaint against him and I am going to sue him. do you want to join him? I was very angry when he called pages "my private pages" which are not mine. I want these illegal warnings be removed or I will ask wikipedia to do. user:cculber007

(The discussion was continued via email) -- Where 13:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC-4)


[edit] Sharing a barnstar with you.

You deserve this as well.

As posted on my talk....

[edit] Hello

Whopper has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing!

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[edit] Evil!

Here is an 6/6/6, aka Evil Day, warning for you, enemy. I am extremely evil and you have entered on my evil property. Spread this evil-ness to others by making a derivative work of this... Or another evil something that is flowing about. And, if you don't you will be a goodie too-shoos forever!! GeorgeMoney T·C 6 June 2006


[edit] Holy fudgebeans...

Just like Extraordinary, I thought you were already an admin! 69.145.123.171 Hello! Tuesday, June 27, 2006, 02:43 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry to bother you...

Hi Where! I was the [annoying] wikipedian {for lack of better word} who needed you to revise my sig. Since I can't test it on my userpages, I was hoping to use this as a test space (just once or twice, I promise).

Thanks.

P.S.For some reason, doing it in the sandbox caused some kind of wiki formatting failure or something.

Tyson Moore 17:48, 28 June 2006 (UTC-4)

Fixed it!!! Tyson Moore 17:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC-4)
FIXED IT!!! (for real this time) :p
Tyson Moore 18:55, 28 June 2006 (UTC-4)
Don't worry. You aren't being annoying in the least (quite the opposite!) :). By the way, you can create your own sandbox to experiment in if you want at User:Tyson Moore/Sandbox (or any other subpage of your user page). Happy editing! -- Where 22:00, 28 June 2006 (UTC-4)

[edit] python

im done with the idle scripts, so what do I do now to get the bot on irc?  Dure  (T)X(E)X(C) 21:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC-4)

To build a bot in python, you will need to use this library. Feel free to ask me on IRC if you have any questions! -- Where 22:05, 28 June 2006 (UTC-4)

[edit] Your page

Hi, I rediesgned your pages. It's not great, but still better than before :) . Also, feel free to change the colors. --GeorgeMoney (talk) (Help Me Improve!) 00:55, 1 July 2006 (UTC-4)

Oh my! I love it :D :D :D. Thank you! You are truly great at web design. [I also gave him a random acts of kindness barnstar] -- Where 01:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC-4)
I still think it's a bit jumbled. --GeorgeMoney (talk) (Help Me Improve!) 01:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC-4)

[edit] RC Perl

Maybe for the AIV perl script, you can have it import the list of admins and check that instead of telling of it's an admin from the edit summary. --GeorgeMoney (talk) (Help Me Improve!) 01:31, 1 July 2006 (UTC-4)

Thanks for the suggestion :). I will definately do this if I find that the script does not work well enough as is; however, all admins are required to leave summaries when editing AIV that say whether the list is empty. When I tested it, it seemed to work fine; but if things go awry, I will keep in mind your suggestion. Thanks again! -- Where 11:03, 1 July 2006 (UTC-4)

[edit] Apology

You may not have noticed it, but when we last talked, I was having a really bad day. I came back to apologize for what I may have said during my very upset state. Regards — The King of Kings 11:48 July 01 '06

No problem. We all have our moments. -- Where 11:00, 1 July 2006 (UTC-4)

[edit] Image:Anti-Zionist.PNG

In the future, please list images on IfD, not MfD. I've speedied it anyways as an attack image (I8).

Best wishes for your RfA, although you don't need them and I'm sure will be speedying things like these in a matter of hours. theProject 20:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC-4)

Ah; thank you. I'll do that in the future :) -- Where 20:22, 1 July 2006 (UTC-4)

[edit] Test

[edit] Test

[edit] Test

[edit] Test

[edit] A note

I see your RfA only needs two more votes to get to WP:100... Way to go! Anyways, I've finally implemented an AI that works! I've uploaded it to here (notice that you have to rename it to tictactoe.py so it works). Have fun playing it! fetofs Hello! 17:04, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cculber007

I really do not think unblocking him would be a good idea. He just sent me another abusive email with another legal threat and such language as "God does not approve of you". This doesn't make me feel comfortable about what he'd do once unblocked. --InShaneee 18:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not at all comfortable with that idea. He's clearly telling you one thing while continuing to misbehave, and I have great confidence that he would simply continue if unblocked. --InShaneee 20:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
No, but the simple fact is that I got over a dozen legal threats from him, as well as an email from wikipedia's legal representative, whom he called to threaten as well. This sounds like more than a clear-cut indef block situation. --InShaneee 20:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hello! Just thought you'd want to know that I responded to the question you left on my RfA. If you have any other, fire away! --cholmes75 (chit chat) 18:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok; thanks :) -- Where 18:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

I am pleased to let you know that, consensus reached, you are now an Administrator. You should find the following forums useful:

Congratulations on your promotion and the best of luck with your new charge! Redux 21:24, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Yay! Thanks :D -- Where 01:36, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats a section lower

#Congrats.21.21

[edit] A question on your conflict with Whoermaster

Hi, on your recent RfA, you mentioned a conflict with Whoermaster. I was wondering if, at the time, you noticed that Whoermaster was a new user? Thanks! Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 21:32, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

The following was copied from my talk page: Yes; I was aware at the time that he was a new user, and I acted accordingly by repeatedly explaining Wikipedia policy. Cheers, -- Where 23:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Looking at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jew-fro, I would reccomend being a bit more patient with newbies. They may not have been sockpuppets, they might have been meatpuppets. If so, then the term "sockpuppet" or "meatpuppet" could possibly be scaring away a newcomer, when we could accomplish the same goal of discounting their opinions more politely, such as with Template:afdanons, and explaining to them that because they are new, their opinions will probably be discounted by the closing administrator, but they are welcome to share their opinion anyways. Anyways, just my two cents. : ) Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 23:55, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Good point; I should have done it. I didn't know about that template back then and my actions were probably influenced by the (pretty nasty!) personal attacks that I was a target of. Nevertheless, I will go the extra mile to make sure that nothing like that happens again. Thanks for pointing that out! -- Where 00:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! Just FYI, if your RfA were still open, I would have voted oppose, but then struck that out and voted support per your willingness to change. Hopefully you won't have to deal with too many personal attacks as an administrator, but admins do seem to be targets, so the best of luck! Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 00:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFA thanks

Image:Where RFA ty.png

Wow! You've got some weird CSS GeorgeMoney (talk) (Help Me Improve!) 21:55, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats!!

[edit] Add congratulations here

Congratulations on your new mop! Sango123 23:13, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
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Congratulations on your new mop! Sango123 23:13, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Congratulations on getting the mop and a last-minute breakthru to WP:100! Yikes! :-D Misza13 T C 21:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I took the liberty of removing your RFA notice from your header. CAAT! (congrats and all that). Petros471 22:19, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Congrats, my dear Where! :) Now go and unleash your evil side - bwa-hah-ha! ;) Big hugs! Phædriel ♥ tell me - 22:21, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Congratulations! Well done on achieving the status of admin! You'll look great with a mop and bucket!  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  22:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Congrats Great job, and if I voted for you, you must be good for the job, just kidding, but 103-0-0 is awesome, good luck in the future. --WillMak050389 22:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Congratulations! Well deserved! And I just love the thank you picture. :) -- Banes 22:46, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Congratulations! Your "RfA thanks" message cracks me up. :P --Ixfd64 22:51, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the thanks - made me laugh :) - Glen 22:51, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • That was a thank you and a half. Congrats o_O -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 23:02, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I did not vote in your RfA, as being a new user, I think I should wait a while :-), however, I would like to know how you create screenshots on Wikipedia. OMEN 23:06, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Hello. I take screenshots using a Linux program called ksnapshot. If you are in windows, you can press the print screen button on your keyboard, and paste the screenshot into an image editor (like MS paint). -- Where 23:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, that "add awards" gallery is really cute. OMEN 23:34, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Gotta love the thank you—and, you're welcome :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 23:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Congatulations on your promotion, and you're very welcome! --Merovingian {T C @} 00:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Yay the Where! Of course, this does mean I've got one less non-admin friend. *sob* We're becoming an endangered species! Congrats anyway! :D ~Kylu (u|t) 00:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Well done with the promotion, good luck. Abcdefghijklm 12:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Nicely done, Where. Look forward to working with you even more. Now you can turn on all that admin only .js stuff ++Lar: t/c 13:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Congrats and Happy Fourth! --Randy Johnston (‽) 05:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
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A toast
  • Congratulations and I look forward to working with you. Here's a toast and a pre-emptive throat lubrication before you are harangued by a horde of vanity autobiographers and bandcruft manufacturersBlnguyen | rant-line 02:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations. Here are what pass for words of wisdom from the puppy:
  1. Remember you will always protect the wrong version.
  2. Remember you must always follow the rules, except for when you ignore them. You will always pick the wrong one to do. (See #5)
  3. Remember to assume good faith and not bite. Remember that when you are applying these principles most diligently, you are probably dealing with a troll.
  4. Use the block ability sparingly. Enjoy the insults you receive when you do block.
  5. Remember when you make these errors, someone will be more than happy to point them out to you in dazzling clarity and descriptive terminology.
  6. and finally, Remember to contact me if you ever need assistance, and I will do what I am able.
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Congrats and welcome to WP:100 ! — Nathan (talk) / 10:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks everyone :D -- Where 00:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Where/Kylu

I notice you've pre-emptively nominated Kylu for adminship. Would you mind if I co-nominated?

Please email as well -- I'll be out of town in a month in about ten hours or so and may not see a talk message. Thanks. theProject 02:53, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay; I responded via email. -- Where 03:02, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] your rfa thanks

Well, I was glad to support you. Just wanted to let you know that a person on Commons nuetralized the rfa image because he thought it was vandalism. Matt B."aka" Thetruthbelow 04:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I talked to the user who blanked it. GeorgeMoney (talk) (Help Me Improve!) 05:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if there are policies on the commons like WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL, but this guy responded to me "Sorry that I didn't look closer and sorry that we've sysoped another twit. --Gmaxwell 05:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC)". I would call that a personal attack. GeorgeMoney (talk) (Help Me Improve!) 05:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks very letting me know. I responded to Gmaxwell. -- Where 13:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] email

I have just sent you an email that you should look at. Matt B."aka" Thetruthbelow 06:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I responded :). Thanks! -- Where 13:35, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

Well done for becoming an admin faster than me, since I had the account registered before you! May the Light guide you in your power usage, and thanks for giving me the honour of nominating you. —Xyrael / 15:38, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

No, thank you for giving me the honor of being nominated! When your RFA comes around, I look forward to giving my strong support (per the reasons mentioned on the RFA reviews page). -- Where 19:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Thankyou :) It may be some time (nominator will be on holiday soon), but it'll come. —Xyrael / 19:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I CALL SHENANIGANS!

Where's RFA never existed! I call Shenanigans. Shenanigans!! (On a sub-note, congrats) Will (message me!) 18:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I did it using a copy of mediawiki running on my computer :) -- Where 19:31, 3 July 2006 (UTC

[edit] Elite Bastards

Thanks for prodding the article, I've explaine dmy reasons on the talk page. I'll give it a few days to see if anything gets added, because I'm nice like that, but I noted the editors who created also own the site... HawkerTyphoon 22:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Where 00:12, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations!

Congratulations on your successful nomination to adminship! Jayjg (talk) 00:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :D -- Where 00:12, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CNN 5 and 67.32.172.177

After reporting these users to WP:AIV you removed them because the "evidence of sock puppetry is not concrete." I would contest that:

  • 67.32.172.177 said "good job" at User talk:CNN 5 after...
  • CNN 5 made the exact same edits to the exact same articles.

It seems the evidence is pretty clear to me. --Chris (talk) 01:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Also please note that I put "sockpuppets" in double quotes because technically they are not sock puppets, since it could be said that the user created a user account for himself. But they are certainly the same person, which is what I meant. --Chris (talk) 01:10, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
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That is true... I find it unlikely though. At any rate I will be keeping an eye on those articles. --Chris (talk) 01:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] RfA Thank you

Thank you!

Thank you, Where? Over here. No, the thanks are here, where is there! THIRD BASE! Oh where was I? No, where is you, Oy Vey, I give up. Whomever and Wherever you are, I thank you for your support in my RfA. I appreciate your trust and support, and I will do my best to further help this great encyclopædia and community of ours. If there is anything that you feel I can do to help, please let me know. And of course, I would congratulate you on your own consensus, but I just don't know where to send it. Oh well. 8-) -- Avi 03:34, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Change to Computer Hardware

I never made any change.

[edit] Congratulations!

Congratulations on your adminship!

EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 09:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! :D -- Where 11:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalSniper

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Oh and by the way you're approved now. --Chris (talk) 12:42, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CONGRATS!!

Congrats on becoming an admin as your co-nominator!! Enjoy the mop! :) G.He 18:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
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Congrats on becoming an admin as your co-nominator!! Enjoy the mop! :) G.He 18:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


Thanks! :D -- Where 18:33, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] jordanjames

Jordanjames just messed with Jake's page a few minutes ago after I posted a warning, see history for details.

Also, the Ted Casablanca thing looks good but isn't: Ted runs a Blind Item column in which he has been alluding to a bisexual actor called Toothy Tile for a year. This is what jordanjames means. While it IS almost certain Toothy Tile is Jake (and his boyfriend may well be Austin - there are many, very obvious, clues that point to them), this cannot be verified in a way that can added to Wikipedia. It's deliberately deceptive. This is why I'm concerned, because jordanjames is adding this thing on a basis that cannot be used in Wikipedia. Dev920 19:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

She did it again. [1] Dev920 07:04, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Yikes. Looks like somebody blocked her now though. -- Where 14:13, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvios

The copyvio tag clearly states that "simply modifying copyrighted text is not sufficient to avoid copyright violation". Please follow the guidelines. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 19:51, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello; I'm not quite sure what you are referring to. Can you please tell me? -- Where 21:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh, sorry, I was in a little hurry. I was refering to your edits on A Little's Enough, Valkyrie Missile, and Start The Machine. The problem with copyvios is that they are still in the history, that's why these articles need to be deleted and rewritten from scratch instead of the copyrighted text being removed. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 21:42, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi again. I was acting based on the directions on WP:CP, which state "Revert the page to a non-copyrighted version if you can; The infringing text will remain in the page history for archival reasons unless the copyright holder asks the Wikimedia Foundation to remove it." I will not revert you until we come to an agreement on this, of course. Let me know what you think. Happy editing! -- Where 21:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Since the copyvio was there right from the first edit, I assumed that wouldn't apply since there was no previous non-copyrighted version to revert to... --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 21:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
I do not believe that the versions that I had edited had any copyrighted material in them (I just double-checked this). Is it okay if I remove the copyvio notice?
I do not believe that the versions that I had edited had any copyrighted material in them (I just double-checked this). Is it okay if I remove the copyvio notice? -- Where 22:56, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I just thought that if all versions before the copyvio tag was added had the copyrighted text, the article would have to be deleted (after all, what would we need the whole copyvio procedure for if a simple edit would do?). But if you think it's okay with the copyvios left in the history, go ahead. However, since there's hardly any content in the articles anyway, could you maybe just redirect them to We Don't Need to Whisper (as I did in the temp versions)? (See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums#Track by track analysis and Talk:We Don't Need to Whisper). Otherwise I'd have to go over all of them again... --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 23:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Okay; done. One of the articles had some content, so I didn't make it into a redirect. Feel free to do so if you disagree. -- Where 23:10, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, it's perfectly fine. I'll just merge the third one later... Oh, and thanks for being so cool about the whole thing. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 23:12, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
No problem :D. Thank you as well. -- Where 23:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin

I think you should add your name to Wikipedia:List of administrators/IRC nicknames. GeorgeMoney (talk) 20:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I have done so. -- Where 21:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Don't give an Ameriflag (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log)

Jaranda also blocked this user but indef., I'm not sure which block stands. Here's the log. Thanks! Yanksox 00:03, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

The latest block is the one that stands; the user is now blocked indefinately. Thanks for telling me! -- Where 00:07, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
The shortest block stands, but Jaranda fixed it by unblocking and reblocking. Also, despite vote inflation, unanimous results are still rare. Congrats. NoSeptember 03:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the information and the congrats. -- Where 03:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi.

Well, erm, hello. I'm dropping by and say hello since apparently George knows you and I'm also a sysop at your test wiki. :) (On account of George, once again :D) Øřêōş 18:25, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi :D -- Where 19:54, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Do you mind just screwing off?

First you delete my anti-zionist symbol becuase you deem it "offensive" and now you're changing my talk page, just leave me and my account alone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eduardo89 (talk • contribs).

(I replied on his talk page) -- Where 00:57, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Where, sometimes in the Torah Jerusalem is refered to as Zion. Just thought you should know. ILovePlankton 02:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. -- Where 03:16, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My imposter

Thankyou for sorting that out for me.--Crestville 11:10, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem. -- Where 14:00, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Mallorysnyder.jpg

You said on WP:CP that you felt that Image:Mallorysnyder.jpg was not fair use. However, I was thinking that perhaps it was, since it is being used to show who she is. Please let me know what you think. Thanks for your time! -- Where 03:43, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Basically an image use is fair when we are talking about the image, and not when we are talking about the person/place depicted on the image. This is just a very general rule of thumb, of course. Wikipedia:Fair use has the detailed Wikipedia guidelines on fair use of texts and images. For a quick pick on what my be directly related to this case, I may want to focus on Counterexample #7 on Wikipedia:Fair use#Counterexamples (but read the whole page, anyway. It' important). Let me know if I an be of any other help. Best wishes, --Abu Badali 14:48, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah; good point. I didn't see that. Okay, I deleted the image as a copyvio. Thanks for your help in this matter! -- Where 14:58, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
No problem :) --Abu Badali 15:05, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Actually

Jaranda just extended your block to indef so talk to him about it. --Pilotguy (roger that) 19:04, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay; thanks. I'll talk to him. I like your sig by the way :) -- Where 19:08, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I block obvious vandalism only accounts indef, like 5 + cases of vandalism in the same hour with no good faith edits as they normally have no chance of reforming, that guy was heavy vandalising Power Ranger related pages alot. If he wants to reform, he can use the unblock template. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 19:18, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your quick reply :). However, I disagree with you on three counts. First of all, I still think there is a substantial chance that s/he could become a good-faith editor; look at benon. Second of all, the user does not know about the unblock template. Finally, I do not think an indefinate block for first-time vandals is consistant with the blocking policy. Please let me know what you think, and, as always, happy editing! -- Where 19:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re:Your great work at WP:CP

The original conversation can be found at User_talk:The_Thadman#Your great work at WP:CP

I am absolutely honored. :-D Thanks! אמר Steve Caruso (desk/poll) 23:21, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
No problem :). You deserve it. -- Where 06:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Elections

Where
Thank you for your vote in the Esperanza Elections. Your support is much appreciated, and it means that I am now in the Council. I will continue to try my best, and if you have any questions or queries, please don't hesistate to leave me a message. Thanks again, — FireFox 15:40, 10 July '06

[edit] Your RFA

Wow, that must be one of the best RFAs in the entire Wikipedia, keep up the good work Minun (talk) 19:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Minun (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

Thanks :) -- Where 19:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re:comment on Kylu's RfA

Hi - excuse me, but it is virtually inconceivable to me that (1) I would even dream of deriding or attacking a great person like Kylu, and (2) that the time-honoured phrase is remotely sexist or derogatory. Comments about unique qualities of women are more often than not, compliments. Plus, given the "Ballistic support" I expressed for her, how did you have any reason to think my latter comment was a personal attack, implicit or otherwise?

And no, I will not refrain from making such comments because I do not desire to be politically correct. If such comments are some feminist's idea of an insult, tough. It is a shame that you think I was insulting her (its absolutely inconceivable to me!), but I'm sorry, that's your fault and maybe you need to take a pinch of salt with things. This Fire Burns.....Always 05:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Yea Gods! Why would I insult the people who carry the same equipment in their pants as me! It is true that I intended this compliment with reference to the small numbers of lady admins on WP, as compared to men. Its one kind of systemic bias that endures. Sorry for losing my temper, but I hope you can see that my support and faith in Kylu is genuine. This Fire Burns.....Always 06:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other talkpage

On Kylu's RFA, you mentioned that "Adminship needs a woman's touch." While you almost definately did not mean it as such, I perceived this remark as sexist and as an implicit personal attack. It would be greatly appreciated if you could could try to refrain from making comments that could be percieved like this in the future, so as to reduce wikiStrife. Thanks, and happy editing! -- Where 05:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

We misunderstood eachother; I was saying that it seemed like an implicit insult towards male people. I never heard of that proverb; I will look it up. Cheers, -- Where 05:58, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah; I see now the information regarding the proverb. While I still strongly disagree with its usage. nevermind :) -- Where 06:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
No problem. -- Where 06:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ITWA article

Thanks for giving me a chance to add more to the article. I really appreciate it. ;-) --Slyder PilotE@ 10:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome :). -- Where 15:17, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] That crazy vandal

Thanks for the quick intervention, I appreciate it. So much fuss comes up when one tries to stop vandalism. :) --Kuzaar-T-C- 16:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem :) -- Where 16:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion with Mário

[edit] Snapshot of other talk

Hello.

I was wondering what you meant by the above image. Do you mean that the Israelis and Palestinians should just drop their weapons and have a state together? Or are you advocating genocide? Or something else?

Thanks, -- Where 16:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. If I am interpreting you correctly, you feel that Arab-Israelis are currently treated as a subserviant people? And you thus feel that you think two wrongs make a right and that Jewish people in Israel/Palestine should be treated as inferiors? I am not sure if I am understanding you correctly. -- Where 17:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
In all honesty, I find your accusation that Arab-Israelis are being treated like the Jews were treated under the Nazi regime quite horrifying. While there is unfortunately some discrimination, Arab-Israelis are capable of voting and holding any type of job. And no Arab-Isrealis are being forcing into concentration camps and gassed. In fact, the only deliberate killings of Arab-Israelis that I can think of were by Jewish-Israeli terrorists, and these instances do not happen very often. However, I am relieved to find that this disagreement is just a disagreement on what is actually happening, rather than a disagreement on what should happen. We both agree in equality and human rights. I would recommend, however, that you add to the caption of the image on your page a clarification stating that you believe in equality; many people can and will interpret it quite differently. -- Where 17:58, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi. There's no need to remove the picture; it isn't meant as an attack image, and you thus have every right to have it. I was just recommending that you point out that you are advocating equality, rather than genocide or reduced-citizenship for Jews. But that's just a suggestion, not a request. Your call. -- Where 19:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry I misinterpreted you, BTW. -- Where 19:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Don't worry; you were completely civil and your English was almost perfect. Happy editing! -- Where 19:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My talk

I'm advocating an Arab Palestinian state, occupying the historical territories of Palestine, since the jewish occupation of the region is a recent fenomenon (it started in a massive scale after WWII) and the Israeli actions seem to follow a policy of total humiliation and annihilation of the Palestinian populations. Of course the Israelis can remain in the territory, with the same statute the so-called "Arab-Israelis" have in the current state of Israel. According to the Israelis, their status is perfectly dignus, so, there should be no problem. The images of the Operation Summer Rains triggered the inclusion of the map, along my knowledge of the conflict, which originated, in part, with some contacts I've made during my life with Palestinian diplomats and politicians and also with Israeli people, most notably, Ely Karmon, who is certainly among the most arrogan persons I've seen in my whole life. Mário 17:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

One of my greatest political concerns is the recognition of people's right to self determination. Palestinians had their own state before the Israeli occupation, so, their state should be recreated in its former location, the Palestinian part of the former Mandate for Palestine, which was inhabited by an absolute majority of arabs. Despite living in their own teritory, Arab-Israelis are treated as second-class citiziens, a little bit like jews in Nazi Germany, that's a total humiliation. Despite being immigrants, Israelis should be considered regular citizens in a Palestinian state, as I, being from a country of immigrants, have the biggest respect for immigrants. I'm not even discussing the brutality of Israeli actions in Palestine, I could speak of the countless massacres carried by the Israeli Defence Forces, the wall around Gaza, the assassination of Palestinian political leaders, the selective and deliberate destruction of Palestinian facilities, the disrespect for UN Resolutions, etc, etc. Concluding: jews left Palestine 18 centuries ago, so, it is an Arab territory under occupation, actually, occupation of territory is part of jewish doctrine. And that occupation is supported by the western governments, that's the only reason why Israel keeps existing. Mário 17:48, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you don't recall, but Nobel laureate José Saramago was accused of anti-semitism after comparing the treatment of Palestinians to the holocaust. I knew that you would think the same, that's why I changed "a bit" to "a little bit", nonetheless you still misinterpreted the sentence, I'm sorry. And you also seem to reduce the whole discussion to the status of the Arab-Israelis, when I was speaking about the situation of the entire Palestinian population. Anyway, I'll remove the picture, you may delete it, along with my last User space edits, if you want. I know you are an admin. I actually supported you in your recent RfA, I just changed my name after that. The picture was more like a test, it didn't survive much longer. I thought I would have the same luck of the Israeli editors that use userboxes claiming their support to far-right parties, that support exactly the opposite of my picture. Thanks for this discussion. Cheers! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mário (talk • contribs).

I removed it. It's no big deal, I'm here with different intentions, mainly, improving my English (now I know that I should have written phenomenom instead of fenomenon). And I hope I wasn't uncivil, it wasn't my intention, I often have trouble finding the most appropriate words. Keep your good work! Cheers! Mário 19:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WhereBot's rudeness on Crusade (album)

Please reign in your bot. Please do not delete Crusade (album). If album covers are fair use, surely non plagiarized articles are fair use! --Alcuin 01:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry; programming error on my part. WhereBot is still in testing stages (it exits immediately after editing); still I should have taken more precautions. Completely unacceptable on my part. Sorry about this; it will not happen again. I reverted my naughty bot's edit. -- Where 01:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
No biggie, just glad to hear my page met wikipedia's standards, after all. --Alcuin 01:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Image:UpsAnd-b.jpg

Ah sorry, it's the same artist and I got confused. I subsequently found the artist's website, it is the same as "Extrasolar 3" on her portfolio. Chaos syndrome 09:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bug: Comment Localization Script and History Pages' Radio Buttons

Hi. I believe I've found a problem with your comment localization script — I believe it disables some of the radio buttons on many (but not all) history pages. (Why not all? The difference may have something to do with spaces in an article's name. I'm not sure. This was suggested by another coder.) (This comment localization script being the culprit would also make sense given that radio buttons are right next to the time and date on a history page.)

I'm not a coder, so I can't point to particular code as the culprit, but I did a massively comprehensive trial by error by rebuilding my monobook from scratch and then pulling out and putting in modules -- it was when I pulled out the comment localization script that the error disappeared. I was going to provide you with full information here, but then realized that my debugging talk thread on the Scripts UserProject and my monobook.js' history screen probably provide all the proof and information you need.

I would be very happy to assist you in whatever capacity to diagnose and solve the problem, as I really enjoyed your script — it was incredibly convenient not to have to do the time conversion math in my head. — Mike (talk • contribs) 17:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks — I inserted your new code and gave it a test run on the pages where it was causing problems before, and no problems now. Thanks so much for such a quick turnaround! :-) And, hey, no problem on the code causing me grief -- especially when compared to the very cool convenience of not having to do time-code conversions in my head anymore. — Mike (talk • contribs) 19:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smiledozer

Why exactly did you delete the page? I dont see anything under Speedy deletion criteria... Probably some for AFD nominations though.69.244.68.216 02:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

sorry that was me forgot to log on. Grundlegod 02:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Smiledozer was deleted because it met CSD A7; it did not assert the notability of the topic. Happy editing! -- Where 02:35, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Any idea?

Just in case you might know the answer — Wikipedia talk:WikiProject User scripts#Duplication of Toolbox Links.2FTabs. — Mike (talk • contribs) 20:35, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

for your bot have it keep a log of the reports and the analisis of them Betacommand 05:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA thanks

Hello Where/4, and thank you for your support at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with an overwhelming final count of (105/2/0). I was very pleased with the outpouring of kind words from the community that has now entrusted me with these tools, from the classroom, the lesson in human psychology and the international resource known as Wikipedia. The Free Encyclopedia. Please feel free to leave me plenty of requests, monitor my actions (through the admin desk on my userpage) and, if you find yourself in the mood, listen to some of what I do in real life. In any case, keep up the great work and have a fabulous day. Grandmasterka 06:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] RfA-nom thanks!

Thanks for contributing to my successful RfA!
To the people who have supported my request: I appreciate the show of confidence in me and I hope I live up to your expectations!
To the people who opposed the request: I'm certainly not ignoring the constructive criticism and advice you've offered. I thank you as well!
♥! ~Kylu (u|t) 20:27, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Just a little something to let you know that I appreciate the hard work you did putting the nom together! Somehow I not only made admin but also WP:100 also! Weird. Thanks. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 20:27, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violations

Hello, Where. If you would like to notify editors who have posted copyrighted content to Wikipedia, please use {{nothanks}}. The copyright violation template, {{copyvio}}, should only be used to replace copyrighted content, especially since it places the page that it is added to in the possible copyright violations category. Thanks, Kjkolb 23:27, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me :). I seem to mix them up occassionally, but I think I got it now. -- Where 01:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Where. Could you check Battle of Chains and maybe other pages of User:Mohammad adil for copyvios? It appears to me he copied everything from the adress mentioned below on the page. I couldn't find any note on the copyright. --84.63.4.19 12:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Comment

Hi Where - first off, I never hold grudges. Secondly, after you clarified what you were thinking, my anger instantly went away. No, I do not have any negative impression of you at all. I have a rather large vein for pawky humor, and my recent comment to Kylu was simply an attempt to laugh at the irony of our respective misunderstandings. I was dead certain that you were talking about my remark as offensive to women, and it turned out to be a completely unexpected reason, which made me grin a lot. I was just letting Kylu in on the fun.

I guess the only thing I'd say is never take me without a pinch of salt when talking of non-Wikipedia business. You shouldn't worry so much about people's comments either, as issues between users here are entirely meaningless in both short and long run, and of no consequence to Wikipedia or the reason for our working here. Hoping to have a chance to work together, Cheers! This Fire Burns Always 06:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, the hitlist comment was in regard to a couple of trolls I've had the honor to fight recently. This Fire Burns Always 06:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scripts/User tabs

I have a problem with your user script where it adds two of each tab to my series of tabs

contrib, page moves, block log, edit count, contrib, page moves, block log, edit count

It's annoying becaus it goes over the edge of the page. Here's my monobook.js file. Any help appreciated. Harryboyles 14:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CSD A8 amendment

See Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#A8 changes. I agree that we need to more effectively stop random copy-paste contributions, but I am concerned about clearly and effectively allowing copy-paste text from public domain and freely licensed sources. —Centrx→talk • 19:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Misza13's pile!

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[edit] CCulber007

Alright. Just let him know that if he makes any more legal threats, he's gone for good. --InShaneee 04:03, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The End

I'm tired about this stupid discussion. I'm now very busy, so I can't participate in this "comedy", so if you can please delete my user_page and all history of it editing. Thanx, Have a nice day. P.S.: NEVER JUDGE PEOPLE FOR THEIR BELIEVES. --SteveGOLD 11:47, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I am only enforcing Wikipedia policy. Per your request, I have deleted your userpage. Feel free to recreate it if you want to, but only do so in accordance with WP:UP. Thanks, -- Where 15:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. :) Cheers! --SteveGOLD 16:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
If you don't want to be judged, you might want to spell "beliefs" correctly (this is not meant as a serious comment and should -not- be taken seriously) — Nathan (talk) / 18:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Things that rock for a thousand, Alex

No problem :). I'm glad somebody finds it useful. -- Where 20:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stub sorting Barnstar

Greetings. There is a Barnstar for stub-sorting up for proposal here. If you'd like to participate in the discussion, we'd much appreciate it. Thanks, and have a great days. :) SynergeticMaggot 18:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Show/Hide

Hello Where, not to be a burden, but you do know Wikipedia a whole lot better than I do. i was experiementing with those windows that you can 'Click to Show' and 'Click to Hide'. I made a successful one a User:Scrumshus/Userbox mini. However, when I tried to work it into my infobox on the left side of my userpage, it wouldn't cooperate. I tried working it inot my alternate infobox, but it didn't work either. If you follow my links, you'll see what I'm talking about. Can you help me fit my Show/Hide bar into my inofobx? Thanx, Scrumshus 17:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] delete

Could you delete my pages. Thanks User:Wossi/Delete [wossi] 04:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I figure that you might find the pages useful if you happen to come back some day, and there isn't any harm in keeping them. But if you still want them deleted, let me know, and I will oblige. -- Where 20:55, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Toolserver

Wow, I noticed you were signing up for the toolserever, good luck —Minun Spiderman • Review Me 19:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :) -- Where 20:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I'd love to here above it. Im going to create tools such as a signature generator and a user page generator and perhaps even a barnstar maker. I'd love to here what your going to do, cheers —Minun Spiderman • Review Me 11:16, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wherebot

I would suggest that wherebot's reporting format is {{User:Wherebot/template|wiki-page|http://example.com}}, and people could improve on the reporting format without having to bug you to change it. I also have some an idea for the pages that have been deleted to not show on the list with the #ifexist parserfunction, but it would be much easier if the bot used the template. GeorgeMoney (talk) 22:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I guess you don't wanna do that, maybe you can atleast change it from [http://example.com http://example.com] to just http://example.com, which produce the same results, but less code:

Example 1: http://example.com [http://example.com http://example.com]

Example 2: http://example.com http://example.com


GeorgeMoney (talk) 10:41, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

hmm.... I just saw that on the second part, it cuts off the http:// in the url.... oh well. Can you at least tell me why not to use the template? GeorgeMoney (talk) 10:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the delayed response. I'm worried that constantly subst'ing a template would increase server load, when I don't see much of a need for people to change the format. It also could look ugly if the format is changed, as then several different formats would be used on Wikipedia:Suspected copyright violations. What are your thoughts on the matter? -- Where 16:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, I just think it's kind of ugly already. It looks very "scrambled", or for a better word, "unorganized". And, for the edit summaries of the bot, I think it shouldn't say the exact edit it's making, because that is unhelpful (e.g. five tildes don't subst in edit summaries, etc.. ). I think the summary should be changed from:
Robot: Automated text replacement (-'''Only remove this line if you want the bot to stop functioning''' +* Article -- [http://example.com example.com]. Reported at ~~~~~ '''
into:
Robot: Reporting copyvio: [[Article]] http://example.com

.

GeorgeMoney (talk) 08:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please be more careful with copyvios

You deleted Maria Teresa, Grand Duchess of Luxembourg in July on the basis that there was a copyvio. All you actually had to do was delete the copyvio text, or if you couldn't tell which bits of the text were copyvios delete the text fully and replace it with a 2 line stub. Instead you deleted the entire page. As a result you

  • deleted the date of birth of the woman in question
  • deleted the standard template used in articles of that sort, with all the links in it
  • deleted non-copyvio information like the name of her grandson
  • deleted all the categories.

As a result of deleting the article rather than fixing it a bot then deleted all the directs to it, on the basis that the article they were redirecting to did not exist. Someone else then created a new article about the woman under a different name, which meant that the new article linked to none of the old links in other articles. Luckily it is an obscure topic or we could have had various users innocently starting articles on the same topic under the various different links to what had been redirect pages.

You don't delete pages with copyvios. You remove the copyvio or stub it. And you don't delete patiently non-copyvio stuff like dates of birth, categories and templates. I've had to spend ages tonight as an admin trying to untangle the mess, undelete the redirect pages, move pages around and dig around under the deleted page to salvage all the non-copyvio stuff you lost. I don't doubt the genuineness of your actions. Unfortunately they did have alkward consequences. But we all make mistakes and thankfully this one could be rectified. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 22:50, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

First of all, I would like to express my regret that this incident took place; doubtlessly, I will take more care in the future. However, at the time the article was deleted it was like this; there was very little material that was not from here (there were no categories and there was no template at the time). That being said, it looks like there was a small amount (I was able to find 2 sentences) of non-copyvio material, and this is unfortunate. I must have saw that the vast majority of the article was a copyright violation and incorrectly assumed that the rest of it was also.
I am confused by your remark "you don't delete pages with copyvios," as Wikipedia:Copyright problems/Advice for admins seemed to say otherwise. Perhaps the page should be amended? I will not do any more work on WP:CP until we can reach an understanding on the appropriate way to deal with copyvios.
Thank you so much for telling me about this, and in such a polite way too! I really really appreciate it. -- Where 01:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Eduardo incarnated

Anything we can do about Eduardo, who seems to be back as User:Wykydron? See his talk page history since he'll likely blank it again prior to you getting this message. Sorry to bug you while you're on vacation...!  :) Regards, --Stephane Charette 20:57, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Need help

I need help, I need to know how to gain trust from other users, cheers —Minun Spiderman • Review Me 14:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

If people see that you are a committed and helpful Wikipedia, they will generally come to trust you. Getting to know Wikipedians on IRC can also help. -- Where 15:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] my RFA

Hello, Where. If you have the time, leave your opinion on my RFA. Thanks in advance. Best regards, --Abu Badali 00:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Toolserveraccount

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You might have done this already, but if not, I think you should exclude websites found that are listed at User:JesseW/Full mirror list (which is just a all-in-one version of the links on WP:MIRROR#GFDL_compliance). That might be hard to implement because it is such a long list, though... GeorgeMoney (talk) 23:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slight Messedrockerbot error

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[edit] vandalism

137.166.4.130 - block this IP, thanks

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[edit] Re:Kimberly Kupps

OK, I see that "prominence" could be taken as a claim of notability. (I considered it to be a weaker assertion, hence the Speedy Delete"). I will go ahead and put a prod on it. Thanks, ... discospinster talk 12:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox Alignment

Hi Where.

I was just wondering (because you're the first person I thought of that would know this),

Is it possible to align a userbox at the top of the page in the centre? I can do it Left and Right, but not Centre.

Thanx!

Tyson Moore

Thanx for the smile! Tyson Moore

[edit] RE:Background too dark?

Wow, detective extraordinaire! How did you find my hidden sandbox? I have many *cough*one more you know! I see what you mean about it not being that clear (it's worse on mine with Essjay's theme, but he doesn't vote so unless he promotes me that won't be a problem), but it's supposed to follow the theme of my userpage. However, I might lighten the links - could you suggest a shade? Thanks. Please reply on my usertalk so I get a notification. —Xyrael / 07:39, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just to let you know

I've created this in case you want to drop anything on that page ;) Petros471 11:12, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfABot

I gather from conversation that you are the one who runs RfABot; may I ask you if I could run it in a private channel for my own use (and anyone else who wants it)? Thanks. —Xyrael / 13:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Wherebot

Hi, thanks for fixing wherebot. It seems to be working great again. Minor quibble, wherebot doesn't place new entries correctly on the list. See [2] here. Cheers, Garion96 (talk) 15:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A RfA thank you from en:User:Xyrael

WikiThanks

I'd like to thank you Where for either supporting, opposing, commenting, nominating, reading, editing, promoting and/or anything else that you may have done for my successful request for adminship (I've broken the one thousand sysop barrier!); I'm thanking you for getting involved, and for this I am very grateful. I hope to be able to serve Wikipedia more effectively with my new tools and that we can continue to build our free encyclopedia, for knowledge is power, but only wisdom is liberty. Please do feel free to get in touch if you feel you can improve me in any way; I will be glad to listen to all comments. Again, thanks 8)             —Xyrael / 11:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your congratulations - you can now call yourself a nominee of the 1000th admin ;) —Xyrael / 12:22, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CovenantD

He was blocked, right now, in some articles he edit war me, I already made 3 rv (well just in one actually). What's the procedure to rv his rv's?--The Judge 02:43, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Barnstar

Don't know how to say 'thank you' in olde english. But thanks for the barnstar. Garion96 (talk) 11:35, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

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Genetlman,

I received your message about posting articles which seem to be copyrighted to you guys. however i want to clarify all information and articles regarding Islam Hijack or Islam was Hijacked 're my own . and infact i own a weblog where those 're actually posted by me. should you require any other information please let me know!! let me know if you have posted my article or not ?


regards imran

[edit] My own article and No copyright violation

Genetlman,

I received your message about posting articles which seem to be copyrighted to you guys. however i want to clarify all information and articles regarding Islam Hijack or Islam was Hijacked 're my own . and infact i own a weblog where those 're actually posted by me. should you require any other information please let me know!! let me know if you have posted my article or not ?


regards imran

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[edit] Thanks for encourgement

Dear Where, I was really very much encourged by your kind compliments-

I did read the no original research policy. I don't wanna argue over this however what my understanding on this policy is that everything we put in our article should be previously proven and mentioned - this is what i actually meant there is nothing new all is previously mentioned even on this wikipedia however i put together all this in kind of a story just like this below story -- which is uncontroversial but may be i am tellin' the story in a different way ... 1st Story was Islam was Hijacked and 2nd Story is Movie " The World " a God Almighty Production. I hope you get my point it's only a different way to narrate a story but nothing new is in there!

Movie “ The World “ a God Almighty Production.

Cast: Human Beings - Production Crew: Angels

Special Effects: Hurricanes, Quakes, Winds, Rains, Floods, lightening etc.

Writer/Director/Producer: God Almighty

Sponsored by : Facts & Reality

Posted at my blog and my own article


This Movie which is still underway however very close to its end and therefore so far has not been released to general public, however some of the people somehow were able to watch a few scenes as those were allowed by the producer for publicity purposes among the general public before the release of this Movie, All human beings have been assigned a role to play – It’s quite interesting. Though there’re plenty of extras in this Movie with very a few Stars Heroes among too many villains.


This Movie is full of violence, Sex and nudity, Abusive language, racism, Love & Hatred, Horror & Comedy, Wars including WW1. WW2. and WW3, with very a few scenes of Justice & Peace. A Scene in this movie which actually is at the End of this movie starts with couple of huge flying machines crashing into huge twin tower building, one of the most dramatic and exciting scenes of this movie to me --- I really appreciated the work of stuntmen in this scene who crashed the planes and also of those who were inside the twin tower building and jumping out from that building when it starts to collapse. Great Job of stuntmen in another flying machine (United 93) they were playing their role as the passengers very courageous. They actually did not deserve to die that way I had wished if Producer could change that Scene that eventually all of the passengers get control of that flying machine and were able to land safely. And most disturbing Scene to me was which was filmed in another part of the world (middle east) where a Fighter Flying Machine with laser guided missile hit a Building killing more than 50 Children (Qana-Lebanon) Actually those were the “Crew” (Angels) of this Movie and mistakenly killed however Producer wanted to include that Scene in the movie so that this Movie looks even more realistic. It really looked realistic instead work of computer animations. However The End is really going to be most exciting when two masters return under one flag and slogan and defeat evil and rule the world.


So far only the Producer knows the complete Story of this Movie – and only he can change the Story of this Movie., Movie’s Script was written in “Fate“ . This is how we can understand what actually “ Fate “ is. We’re only playing our roles as the characters of this Movie, and we have no control over the script of this movie and can not make any changes- Only Producer of this Movie has the right to make changes and it’s very rare when he does so.


Shuttle Columbia Disaster actually did not result from the mistake of anybody – Everybody including Astronauts and NASA played their role very well but the disaster actually had to happen as this was the requirement of that scene and to show to general public that Producer actually is in full control of this movie as the Director of movie as well – Nobody can change the story except the Producer . And Producer wants to End this Movie at the terms of his own.


I am still wondering What is my Character and role in this Movie. Never wanna be an “Extra” though

[edit] Thanks for encourgement

Dear Where, I was really very much encourged by your kind compliments-

I did read the no original research policy. I don't wanna argue over this however what my understanding on this policy is that everything we put in our article should be previously proven and mentioned - this is what i actually meant there is nothing new all is previously mentioned even on this wikipedia however i put together all this in kind of a story just like this below story -- which is uncontroversial but may be i am tellin' the story in a different way ... 1st Story was Islam was Hijacked and 2nd Story is Movie " The World " a God Almighty Production. I hope you get my point it's only a different way to narrate a story but nothing new is in there!

Movie “ The World “ a God Almighty Production.

Cast: Human Beings - Production Crew: Angels

Special Effects: Hurricanes, Quakes, Winds, Rains, Floods, lightening etc.

Writer/Director/Producer: God Almighty

Sponsored by : Facts & Reality

Posted at my blog and my own article


This Movie which is still underway however very close to its end and therefore so far has not been released to general public, however some of the people somehow were able to watch a few scenes as those were allowed by the producer for publicity purposes among the general public before the release of this Movie, All human beings have been assigned a role to play – It’s quite interesting. Though there’re plenty of extras in this Movie with very a few Stars Heroes among too many villains.


This Movie is full of violence, Sex and nudity, Abusive language, racism, Love & Hatred, Horror & Comedy, Wars including WW1. WW2. and WW3, with very a few scenes of Justice & Peace. A Scene in this movie which actually is at the End of this movie starts with couple of huge flying machines crashing into huge twin tower building, one of the most dramatic and exciting scenes of this movie to me --- I really appreciated the work of stuntmen in this scene who crashed the planes and also of those who were inside the twin tower building and jumping out from that building when it starts to collapse. Great Job of stuntmen in another flying machine (United 93) they were playing their role as the passengers very courageous. They actually did not deserve to die that way I had wished if Producer could change that Scene that eventually all of the passengers get control of that flying machine and were able to land safely. And most disturbing Scene to me was which was filmed in another part of the world (middle east) where a Fighter Flying Machine with laser guided missile hit a Building killing more than 50 Children (Qana-Lebanon) Actually those were the “Crew” (Angels) of this Movie and mistakenly killed however Producer wanted to include that Scene in the movie so that this Movie looks even more realistic. It really looked realistic instead work of computer animations. However The End is really going to be most exciting when two masters return under one flag and slogan and defeat evil and rule the world.


So far only the Producer knows the complete Story of this Movie – and only he can change the Story of this Movie., Movie’s Script was written in “Fate“ . This is how we can understand what actually “ Fate “ is. We’re only playing our roles as the characters of this Movie, and we have no control over the script of this movie and can not make any changes- Only Producer of this Movie has the right to make changes and it’s very rare when he does so.


Shuttle Columbia Disaster actually did not result from the mistake of anybody – Everybody including Astronauts and NASA played their role very well but the disaster actually had to happen as this was the requirement of that scene and to show to general public that Producer actually is in full control of this movie as the Director of movie as well – Nobody can change the story except the Producer . And Producer wants to End this Movie at the terms of his own.


I am still wondering What is my Character and role in this Movie. Never wanna be an “Extra” though

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[edit] israeli salad

because i didnt realize there already was an article ( Israeli Salad ) about it already when i created it. It turns out i just made a duplicate article. Ilikefood 22:17, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Ilikefood 22:36, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggest me more on improving editing skills?

Dear Buddy, where are you :) - If you could spare some few moments outta your precious time to have a look at my user page as it's only been few days since i joined here, and trying to improve my editing and formatting skills of the articles. -- by the way i did take your advice to publish the Article of " The World God almighty Production " but Sensor Board didn't approve it :-) lol. bye for now, take care, --www.mahdi.ms 07:23, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HELP!!!

Hi where.

I tried to make my userboxed userpage into one big table (as suggested by you and GeorgeMoney).

I ended up with a silly mess here.

Thanks so much for your help!

Tyson Moore

(P.S. The code is hidden under here: )

Thanks! Tyson Moore 01:53, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for 3RR assistance

I appreciate your help on the 3RR warning for Michaelbluejay. My hope is that he will try to work with others, instead of reverting changes he disagrees with. Regards, Atom 03:04, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation cases / status box

Hi Where, glad to see you taking cases as a mediator, but when you take up cases can you please fill in the details in the case's status box fully? Thanks! Jsw663 07:04, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: Tawkerbot suggestion

Sorry I haven't replied yet... I think it would be beneficial to use many search engines, because sometimes the results vary by search engine, which could help lead to more copyvio's being discovered. Thanks for your response! [[User:Nwwaew|Nwwaew ([[User talk:Nwwaew|Talk page!]])]] 19:43, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Uh oh...

Hi Where!. I know that I might seem as a complainer, but you're the only person I know (other than User:GeorgeMoney!) thanm could help me.

I happened to get a very nasty keylogger on my machine, and whenever I log on to wikipedia, there are many vandalism posts using my name. I have managed to use some kind of user script to prevent me from editing any pages (don't ask me... i found it on a wikipedia userpage), except the ones i say. So, is there any way to figure out all the vandal edits I have made?

Thanks..

Managed to revert some of my edits talking to an admin. Some... not all. Tyson Moore
I didn't want to bother you with a new message, so i'll put it right here.
You userpage is... behaving wierdly (if that's a word.) I'm kinda bored and I was experimenting on how userpages look at different resolutions. At anything lower than 1024x768, your userpage (as well as many others) look... funny.
Tyson Moore 15:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Fixed! (By that I mean I got rid of the keylogger, and changed my password) Tyson Moore 17:25, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi again!

Hi where. I was wondering (when you have time) if you could see what's wrong with my sig.

The myTALK is not a link. The other two links after that should be red because they don't exist (yet).

Thanx!

it's hidden under here

Thanx!!

I would sign, but it's broken.

So: Tyson Moore (About 6-ish EDT)

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[edit] A wikithreat

I think that you might want to have a look at This.

I'm kinda... freaked.

It's like having a wikistalker.

Thanks.

(My sig doesn't work.) Tyson Moore

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[edit] Sig

You're probally tired of helping me. So don't if you don't want to, but...

My signature is broken. I don't know why...

Thanx.


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Tehehe! (Waiting for sig to be fixed) 22:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] wherebot for Wikiversity

Would you be willing to put wherebot on Wikiversity? --JWSchmidt 17:04, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I "nominated" wherebot at Wikiversity:Bots/Status. I already mentioned wherebot to one of Wikiversity's two bureaucrats (Sebmol). --JWSchmidt 02:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I created an example for how Wherebot might function at Wikiversity, see v:User:Wherebot#Example. The example includes a page in the "Wikiversity:" namespace where the bot can list violations and the example shows a set of templates that editors can use for dealing with the violations according to Wikiversity deletion policy. --JWSchmidt 16:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Sebmol approved wherebot for use at Wikiversity on the condition that I keep an eye on it. I am glad to do so. --JWSchmidt 17:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries in pywikipedia

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[edit] Blockage!

Hi Where! I was wondering if you could carry through and put a permanent ban on my school. Yes, this has been approved by me and my school V.P. (he has a Wikipedia account too... here.).

Could you use this template? Thanks.

If you don't want to... i could get another admin to do it....

Thanks again

Tyson Moore es 16:53, 6 November 2006 (UTC) and Katalaveno

Well, that Albania edit (and most other useful ones) were mine. I just couldn't be bothered to log in.
Tyson Moore es 22:01, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes, but if you block the IP, won't that let people login , but not allow anon. edits?
Tyson Moore es 02:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
But, see, we encourage people to sign up for user accounts, and we just want to make sure things like that don't happen. If they were logged in with a user account, then we wouldn't get blocked so often. We have already been blocked. We don't want other students to not be able to edit when it was one student that caused us to be blocked. Some students have already signed up for user accounts. So, if you wouldn't mind putting the block in. If we get a huge uproar from the students, then we can deal. I just think it would be beneficial.
Thanx so much.
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User talk:217.33.207.195 requesting unblock :)  Glen  12:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

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Yes. I think that would be suitable compromise.

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Tyson Moore es 16:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Perfect! Thanks so much.
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