Talk:Where's Wally?

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Contents 1 Merging with Waldo...I say NO! 2 Broken Link 3 banned? 4 american version 5 Parodies 6 Wally/Waldo 7 Name 8 Prank Flash 9 YES! 10 dont combine 11 'Characters' sections 12 A Challenged Text? 13 Books Left Out 14 Get Rid of the "Credits"? 15 Statistics

[edit] Merging with Waldo...I say NO!

Someone just brought up that the "Wally" and "Waldo" pages should be merged, I think that this is wrong! If the articles were just on the 1987 books "Where's Wally" and "Where's Waldo" than I could understand merging them. Those two books were identical except the "ly" at the end of Wally was changed to a "do". Everything else is the same. Even the 1988 book "Find Wally/Waldo now?" are identical and could share an article. But these pages are about the franchises as a whole.

The 6 "classic" Waldo books illustrated by Martin Handford are identical (except the character name). But as a whole the franchises are very different. The American Waldo franchise did a lot of things that thee UK's Wally did not. The articles talk about the franchise as a whole. Their was Waldo Magazine, Waldo fan-club, Waldo toys, Waldo events, Waldo toys and about 10 Waldo books that never had any kind of "Wally" counterparts. And there are a bunch of "exclusive" Wally products and productions that never become Waldo-ized. There are about 4-5 Wally books were made that never become "Waldo-ized".

Some things do overlap and on the surface the two appear very similar, but each franchise has its own history, its own exclusive characters, its own books, its own products, its own productions, its own honors/awards and they each have different "attitudes", characteristic, and whatnot. They are related, but each are independent. Simply lumping Waldo as "another name for Wally" (or vise-versa) would be a disservice to the huge difference and histories between the two "versions" of something that come from the same original character and idea. There are many more differences between Waldo and Wally than just the name.

It's almost like the difference between The Office (UK TV series) and The Office (US TV series). I hope to spend some time expanding both the Wally and Waldo articles to be more specific to each version and define all the parts (including the differences) of the Waldo & Wally phenomenons. -- WaldoWatcher 03:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I suggested the merge because the two articles are 80% duplicated content. If you want to go ahead and turn them in to truly seperate articles, I'll happly withdraw my suggestion. But as it stands these articles are practically identical. I don't see why the differences between versions can't be covered with a few paragraphs, rather than needing a whole new article.

The comparison with the office is flawed. The american office is a remake. Not just a rebranding. Granted, some Wally stuff was not produced as Waldo and vice-visa, but this hardly makes them seperate things.

Regardless, the current situation of two almost identical articles is simply poor form. --JiFish(^Talk/_Contrib) 18:40, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I say yes, but that Wally should be merged into Waldo; not the other way around. I'm sure that's my US bias creeping in, but that's how I feel. -- stubblyhead | ^T/_c 17:10, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Merge Waldo into Wally. Handford is British, the books were published in Britain first, Wally is the original name. And I second everything User:JiFish said. --Bonalaw 17:49, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Unless there is anything else anyone would like to add, I'm going to merge Waldo into Wally within the next week. --JiFish(^Talk/_Contrib) 14:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Waldo goes into Wally, the motion is PASSED! Comradeash 18:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the proposed merge of Waldo into Wally. I am reading the articles for the first time, and I see that yes, most of the content is duplicated. The differences can easily be explained within a couple of sections... there's no need to duplicate the main article. And yes - Wally should of course be the main article: it was the original. EuroSong 10:58, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I also support merging Where's Waldo into Where's Wally, for much the same reasons as stated by EuroSong and Bonalaw.--Cini 11:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree with most of the above and that Where's Waldo should be merged into Where's Wally, and redirects set up as necessary. Born Acorn 13:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I also agree: merge Waldo into Wally. Wally's the original. Although Waldo has more spin-offs than I'd realised, a fair amount of the content is essentially the same. --A bit iffy 07:11, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

So... this has been going on for 2 months now, and the consensus is that the articles should merge. Is anyone going to actually do it? :) I'd offer to do it myself, but I am not a major contributor and don't want to step on anyone else's toes. EuroSong ^talk 12:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not done yet. I also don't want to step on toes, but my Virgo nature needs this merged. --Green-ghost 07:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

• I agree: Wally and Waldo should be merged. They are basically the same thing. There is no point to have two pages for it. RobJ1981 16:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

But who's going to do it? I'd do it but I don't feel I am experienced enough. Born Acorn 19:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

• Merge —Ragdoll 18:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, I did the merge, but it wouldn't hurt for someone else to look over it. It would also be really great to have sources for the information. Thanks!Lisamh 00:01, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Looks like someone undid the merge. Where's Waldo? was reverted to pre-merge. Born Acorn 23:18, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broken Link

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Link to the bitmap does not work.

[edit] banned?

A certian book was banned on "Long Island"?? That dosent make sense to me, there is no "long island" government to ban such a book, perhaps a suffolk or nassau county ban, or a ban on the new york state level, but not a "long island" ban.

Libraries often ban books regardless of municipal government, this is most likely what the reference was in regards to.

A library banning a book is a far cry from a "long island" wide ban, seeing as they are tens dozens of libraries on Long Island.

[edit] american version

Is the american version the exact same books just with a different name? Astrokey44 23:32, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Yep, pretty sure they are. Correct me if I'm wrong. BillyH 23:57, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Parodies

Wondering if we should mention the numer of parodies of wheres wally Eg if anyone could find more examples. Might be an idea to put the NG flash in there as well as any other mick taking links that fit in with the article?

[edit] Wally/Waldo

It seems somewhere along the line that someone automatically changed all Wallys to Waldos, meaning you've got bizarre situations where it tells you that the US title of 'Where's Waldo' was 'Where's Waldo'. I've changed them all back to Wally's, except for the US-specific bits. BillyH 21:03, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I have never heard of Where's Wally? I heard of Where's Waldo? Waldo not Wally. Someone should work that out. --Yancyfry jr 04:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

That's because (I guess) you're American, and as usual, the marketing situation over there is as such that they pretend they invented everything and the rest of the world does not exist.. not your fault :) EuroSong ^talk 09:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Any idea why the books are called Where's Waldo in the USA? pomegranate 23:55, Aug 4, 2004 (UTC)

Is there a movie scheduled for 2005 as indicated in this article? --The_stuart 21:32, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Prank Flash

There seems to be many different versions of the prank flash. I have not seen the one including the harlequin foetus image but have seen the face from the exorcist. And there is another version where after about 25 seconds a pale white womans face comes up with flashing eyes and a mans scream can be heard. This is probably the more milder version. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chillie Gal (talk • contribs).

The version with the harlequin fetus doesn't exist anymore. The exorcist replaced the harlequin fetus

[edit] YES!

I think very much so. As the illustrator was British I feel any mention of Waldo to begin with should be stricken from the record. His name is Wally.

[edit] dont combine

how is someone from america, that doesn't know or care who wally is going to find the page at all interesting. they are fine how they are

That's what redirects are for. EuroSong ^talk 10:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, indeed. Stellmach 22:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Characters' sections

There are two 'characters' sections, featuring pretty much the same content. Someone who knows more about Wal(ly/do) should remove one/merge the two. Phileas 18:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Challenged Text?

The American Library Association has ranked the series as the 88th most contested book/series of the last two decades of the 2oth century.

http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/bbwlinks/100mostfrequently.htm

Any idea why? I always thought they were widely loved. - Plasticbadge 00:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I think the first book contained a partly revealed breast. Born Acorn 13:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Books Left Out

Sorry if this does not conform with the correct format, but I am new to wikipedia and I thought this should be brought up. I do not know if this was the case in other countries, but in Australia we had (starting in 1996 I believe)a wally book released every week for many years. These books were part of a collection. The first set (which I own all of them, although they are in my cupboard and do not have access to them now) consisted of at least 100 copies, stored in folders that came with the issue everytime it was necessary. These books were called "Wally's world". Later came Wally's History of the World with the same number of issues and folders. Wally's world gave information on various countries throughout the world in an easy to understand format for kids. Often countries were combined, and I think they did cover all the economically developed countries in the world. Wally's History of the World discussed the French Revolution, Settlement of Australia, and alot of other great historical events occuring throughout the middle ages and modern history alike. It is indeed worth a mention.

[edit] Get Rid of the "Credits"?

What's the point of that? It seems, um, highly redundant and irrelevant to me. These credits don't even pertain to the books, but to the TV series. (A fact which is not mentioned either, btw.) Binba 05:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics

Are there any statistics on how many books were sold under each name, Wally vs. Waldo? Actually, are there any statistics on how many books were sold in general? The comic strip ran in the Toronto Star for a few years in the mid/late 90s. Esn 02:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)