Talk:West Highland White Terrier
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[edit] Done some removal of images and clearing up of justifications
Article I felt, was messy with too many images (2 of low quality) and paragraph titles being pushed out of place by the images. I have "been bold" and cleared this up, but I feel the article is still biased. (195.82.104.122 12:35, 3 July 2006 (UTC))
[edit] Better picture; Removal of Picture
- free license
- this dog (Bassica) has better racial feautres
- the icture of the westie in the pink sweater is unnecessary and not very good quality. This is not flickr. I propose for it to be deleted.
A.J. 14:17, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] olive oil for skin?
Can anyone cite a medical site or reference for this claim just added:
"Feeding a Westie a tablespoon of olive oil each week will assist in keeping the skin "hydrated.""
I thought I'd read somewhere that that was an old wives tale. Elf | [[User talk:Elf|Talk]] 21:47, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
How the oil will help with hydration I don't know. From what I have read, some people believe that the fatty acids in the oil will help with the dog's skin, but they usually recommend using a supplement instead as olive oil has a lot of calories. Here's an mention of corn oil: [1]
[edit] References
There are a lot of statements in the article that do not have references and seem, IMO, to be POV. Here are a few examples:
West Highland White Terriers are a breed of dog known for their spirited personality and brilliant white coat; their devotees often call them simply Westies. They are friendly, good with children, and thrive on lots of attention.
We need references for their personality and for their character (friendly with children?).
Some Westies have "brandy stains" on their backs and/or feet, but this is undesirable in show/breeding specimens.
We need references for the 'brandy stains' and a better explanation as to what they are and why they are undesirable (and who says so).
- This one I don't know about; coats must be white per breed stds and anything else is a fault. Elf | Talk 03:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
In short, I think the article needs a thorough cleanup. I will have a go somepoint soon - but if someone else can have a go it would be good. -localzuk 01:28, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Some items to be folded in/ref'd:
- "...is all terrier and needs no pampering...thrives on plenty of attention...excitable temperament." New Encylcopedia of the Dog (cited in various articles)
- "Full of self-esteem, this hardy, active, and game little dog... Breed is alert, courageous, and self-reliant, but makes a friendly and charming companion." Encyclopedia of Dog Breeds (ditto).
- From FCI breed standard (haven't looked at others yet): "Small, active, game, hardly, possessed of no small amount of self-esteem with a varminty appearance. Alert, gay, courageous, self-reliant but friendly."
- Yes, they're known for their white coat & they are called Westies. So far I don't see a specific mention of children but I've looked in only 2 books. Elf | Talk 02:47, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- More from the breed club listed in ext links:
- "Are they good with children
- This is highly dependent on adult supervision and the age of the children. If the adult in charge has taught the children proper respect for the puppy’s rights and care of the puppy, Westies and children can be a happy combination. Children, particularly 10 and older, can enjoy playing a good game of soccer or catch with a Westie. They are sturdy for their size.
- No child should be the primary caretaker of any dog. This must be an adult’s responsibility.
- Westies are not recommended for the home where children from the entire neighborhood gather to play. This can lead to too much excitement for a Westie and may lead to unintentional nipping."
- OK, one more note in looking at the history page--looks like I added pretty much all the info ([2]) and since I'm not a westie expert, it all came out of books on my shelves. That was almost 2 years ago, before there started being a push to cite references for everything. For most the the dog articles that I filled in, I pulled a bunch of books out, read, made notes, consolidated the info, and created the article. As I started looking this stuff up (again), I remember how bloody long it took to assemble all this info & I'm not really in a mode of spending an hour or 2 doing the research all over again. So take a look at the history link to see what I added & rest assured that it all came from the breed standards and/or published mainstream books. For what it's worth. Elf | Talk 02:59, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Bias
This article seems to fawn over Westies, and doesn't address their intelligence.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.166.19.197 (talk • contribs).
- So Be Bold and do something about it. If you don't want to do that, what do you think is wrong with it? -Localzuk (talk) 12:05, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removing one photo
I am removing this image because I feel that it doesn't add to the article in any meaningful way, it's just a small, blurry, diagonal photo (that and the caption "westy is happy"). Pharaoh Hound 13:14, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
