User talk:WayeMason

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[edit] Welcome

Hello WayeMason, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and vote pages using three tildes, like this: ~~~. Four tildes (~~~~) produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Tobycat 02:00, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Technical: Music of Canada

Thanks! Unfortunately the method of finding templates is not intuitive using the search engine. The template {{musicofCanada}} can be found at Template:MusicofCanada. It can be edited there. It looks like there are about two dozen articles that use the template so keep in mind that all will display the edits you make.

FYI, there are two ways to include a template. Method 1 is what you are seeing in the Music of Canada article where the template name is in curly brackets by itself. This method results in dynamic changes to the template being propagated to the article each time the template changes. Method 2 converts the template into static content on the destination. Once inserted, changes to the template will not propagate to the destination article. This is how I inserted the welcome message onto your talk page. It is accomplished by adding "subst:" prior to the template name. For example {{subst:musicofCanada}}. Tobycat 18:08, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Buck 65

Good work so far cleaning up that article. It's a big job. I think your strategy of moving the reviews off into their own articles makes sense. This is common practice, actually, when articles get too long. What happens is that the detailed content gets its own page and then the higher level page mentions that content but at a more general level.

As a matter of process, what you propose should work just fine. I recommend making clear what you're doing, though, since somebody might come across the new unrevised pages and tag them for cleanup. Similarly, if you start cutting content out of the main article somebody might incorrectly infer that it is vandalism. To avoid misunderstandings there are a few things you can do during the process to keep other editors up to date on what is going on:

outline the plan on the talk page of the article and any new articles you create
comment out, rather than delete, the content you cut from the main article and note what you are doing. You'd delete it once the process is complete but by temporarily commeting it out people who review the history differences can read your messages.
post a notice on top of the article flagging it as under revision.
1. {{inuseuntil|August 15}} posts a message reserving the article until that date for you to edit. You can check out how that displays using the sandbox. It is helpful if you want to take a few hours or days to finish the project. You can put any text in place of the date.
post your own cleanup tags
post really clear summaries in the edit summary

I'm not suggesting you do ALL of these things, which would be overkill. The idea is simply to ensure that others who find the article know what's going on. Tobycat 18:08, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Quite interested in helping out with the buck pages. Not too knowledgable but would be happy to proof read and do some minor research Pluke 19:11, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nova Scotia articles

I'd be more than happy to have a look at the articles you mentioned. I'll also make a point of fine tuning any other NS articles I see that need improving. - Haunti 14:31, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

PS- When you make a note in someone's talk page, don't forget to sign it with four tildes (~~~~). Doing so makes it a lot easier to find out who left the message.

[edit] Municipal Corporation Terminology

Hi Waye,

No worries - I was just browsing the counties category last evening and noticed CBRM was added so got around to reading and editing, as my random surfing usually leads to these impromptu edit sessions. I completely agree on the wording I had been using being incorrect - they were/are municipalities and are thus incorporated using the offical title "Municipality of the County of <insert name here>". I'll go back and find where in the HRM and CBRM pages I've used the "unincorporated" terminology and try to bring it in line.

As for HRM vs. "Halifax" - you're preaching to the choir. I've been after the major contributors for over a year, stating that it is a regional municipality now and that the "cities", "town" and "county" municipalities pre-1996 no longer exist as jurisdictions. Alas, I have no idea if they will ever be swayed as even HRM'ers often have no clue about how their municipal gov't is implemented. At any rate, it is a disservice to those not living within the former City of Halifax boundaries to have all that information about their communities placed under the "Halifax, Nova Scotia" entry.

Cheers,Plasma east 19:46, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Personally it's my opinion that it doesn't matter what the legal status of Dartmouth, Bedford, etc, are, if those terms are still in common use among local residents (and having been to Halifax many times, I know with 100% certainty that they are), then they should still be used. IMO the HRM page should just be about the HRM government, while the history/climate/etc sections of special interest to those not from the area (i.e. the ones who wouldn't know about the whole HRM deal and would just look under Halifax) should go under Halifax. Anything specific to Dartmouth or the smaller suburbs should go under their own articles. It's all about ease of use. Kirjtc2 22:46, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Halifax

And do you really think that it is appropriate that *you* decide that Halifax, Novo Scotia is Halifax? Oh what a coincidence, you live there! Anyway, Halifax is a substantial town in Yorkshire which has precedence over the others named after it which it outdates the others and people refer to it simply as "Halifax", whereas Halifax, Nova Scotia is referred to as Halifax, Nova Scotia. Dunc|☺ 19:18, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Actually I looked into the issue on the page history. It was originally a dab page that you screwed up. It makes more sense for the ignorant fools who don't know any geography for it to be a dab page don't you think? Remember the 3RR. Dunc|☺ 19:28, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

No personal attacks please, they hurt. Dunc|☺ 19:34, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Wow, I'll have a look at this one tomorrow I think. -- Earl Andrew - talk 03:49, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Admin

Despite being on Wik for quite a while, I haven't pursued becoming an administrator yet (don't have enough time to devote to it), so won't be able to help you there. I've had help before from User:Adam Bishop before, so you might want to consult with him. Cheers, Plasma east 16:01, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Halifax Common or Halifax Commons

hi there. it may be the case the name Halifax Commons (in the plural form) gets currency in Halifax for there apparently originally being two commons, a North Common and a South Common. it just a conjecture based on an interesting vandalization of the wiki page you started Halifax Common by a user who despite vandalizing the page (perhaps inadvertedly) wrote of there being two commons. i reverted the vandalization but put in what the apparent vandal said. Regards, -Mayumashu 16:57, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sherose Island, Nova Scotia

To be honest, I'm in the middle of re-stubbing many articles, so the attention I pay to one article is minimal - sufficient to ensure the new stub is appropriate, and to fix formatting mistakes I find. I also quickly scan the length of the article to judge if it should remain a stub or not. I just read the article, and I think there's still some info that can be added - give me a few days and I'll look for something to add... Mindmatrix 19:35, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Of course, you can be bold and remove the stub notice; I don't have any control over the article, nor should I. Since you have more familliarity with the subject, you'd know better than I what constitutes a comprehensive article about it. Mindmatrix 19:42, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HRM Maps

They look great! Nice to have them to illustrate the changes, both geographically and politically. Plasma east 13:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HRM communities sidebar

After several edit sessions on various HRM-related entries, I'm currently looking at some way to standardize the content and appearance of the community articles. As a first step, I'm looking into designing a sidebar for all HRM communities/neighbourhoods which will somewhat follow the Halifax/Dartmouth info boxes already present in those articles. Ideas include having HRM at the top as the main link, with an inset map showing community location, lat/long, population info (if available - most is grouped under census subdivisions), neighbouring/adjoining communities/neighbourhoods, etc. Any suggestions would be welcome! Cheers,Plasma east 21:37, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree, the Islam template is simple yet very attractive. I'd be looking at something similar for HRM. Both the Canadian Navy template and Canadian Air Force template are also useful - thus my reason for looking at doing something for HRM communities/neighbourhoods.

Re. maps - I have access to software and data as well. What I was envisioning was a standard map look/feel for the outlying rural communities that are in the former county part, highlighted by a single point. The neighbourhoods of Halifax and Dartmouth could have a zoom-in of the former city or surrounding area with a similar simple point. Where lat/longs exist for communities officially referenced in the Canadian Gazeteer or on nsplacenames.ca, we can include those lat/longs, otherwise leave it blank since there is no officially defined "centre" for South End or North End or West End Halifax nor North End Dartmouth, etc.

Again, my thought was looking more at the importance of having standardized entries for various areas of the county and the neighbourhoods of the former cities. We can also use the planning areas I guess - although I that these boundaries and names have changed several times since amalgamation. I don't really have a problem with them as they're convenient geographic areas for grouping various regions/communities.

I wouldn't sweat getting something organized ASAP, I just wanted to see if we can look into coordinating on these items as I've noticed others have placed neighbourhood and community articles, some of which are lacking. I can devise a draft template this week and then maybe we can work on it from there. BTW - how did you get the planning area boundaries?

Re. the main HRM article, I think we may need to start creating separate sub-articles on geography, economy, transportation, culture, and building/structure info to keep it from getting too unwieldy!

Cheers,Plasma east 13:51, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

I hear you on the Wiki-burnout issue. I'm pretty busy right now, travelling on work but should be back to the Merry-times next week so will devote time to it then. I'm envisioning such projects as long-term - I'll try to make some maps incorporating the planning districts... Plasma east 04:49, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HRM Transportation/Metro Transit

Hi! Thanks for your kind words re: my Metro Transit article. The article presently is something I'm tinkering with; I'm preparing to put it up on the Metro Transit page to add to the great stuff that's already there. Public transit is a huge interest/passion/obsession of mine, specifically the local system here in Halifax and it's bus fleet.

I'm quite interested in what you all are doing with the HRM page; if you need transit info (specifically Metro Transit), I guess I'm your guy! Let me know if I can help, or just grab what you need! I'm new to the whole wiki thing, so this is all weird and new and weird and somewhat new to me, all at the same time. Chris 02:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NS Counties project

Sounds good. I've gotten sidetracked with real work from contributing to the HRM Communities project but hope to put some hours in over the holidays. I recently created maps for all 67 townships in PEI and hope to do the same for parishes, districts and municipalities in PEI, NS and NB in the coming weeks as well.Plasma east 16:57, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Sounds good to me as well, although I'm new at "projects". Is it just a page with certain tasks for the members to focus on? Anyway, I'm in, just let me know what I have to do. Nice job on the HRM merging situation, by the way. Ouuplas 03:49, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Alright I'm willing to join as well. I'm also new at this project thing but I'm sure that it'll work out, if you just tell me what to do then I'll be fine. Theyab 16:28, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Culture, sport, media

Should be merged back into the main HRM, in my opinion. Just a thought, I don't mind lists (like the buildings one) being moved into seperate articles, but the HRM article doesn't have enough solid text.

[edit] Wikimedia Canada

Hi there! I'd like to invite you to explore Wikimedia Canada, and create a list of people interested in forming a local chapter for our nation. A local chapter will help promote and improve the organization, within our great nation. We'd also like to encourage everyone to suggest projects for our national chapter to participate in. Hope to see you there! -- user:zanimum

[edit] Maritimes

Yes I know, I just added the short dab-elaboration due to the similarity between the singular and plural: just an s. ;) //Big Adamsky 12:07, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image licenses

I clarified the licenses on Image:Map of Nova Scotia Highlighting HRM.png and Image:Map of Nova Scotia.png. Could you just confirm that I chose the right licenses (one is PD and the other is GFDL) and that you are the creator of these images? Thanks Matt 11:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the welcome.

Halifax isn't really that large a place, I know both Steve and MA at Collideascope, and especially the illustrious James B. Nicholson. No doubt we've probably met somewhere. I'm still fairly new to the Wikipedia and I'm trying not to make too many mistakes. BTW: OldCommentator=Mark Laing. --OldCommentator 03:17, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your completion of the info box on State of Palestine

I just read the article about State of Palestine (which I visited as a reader curious about political oddities, not as somebody especially concerned about this area).

I noticed you filled a complete info box, similar as that of a fully sovereign state, which is not obviously relevant, due to the very special situation of Palestine.

There had been a discussion on Talk:State_of_Palestine in June 2005 (mostly sections 7 and 8 on this page) and a decision seemed to have been admitted with no special difficulties : nothing about area or maps, nothing like TLD or Calling Codes. I would like to revert to the situation of the article (a very rudimentary infobox) as it was in mid-January 2006. I prefer to take a few days to ask about your opinion on this matter before destroying your creation : are you strongly supportive of a complete infobox, or did you fill it just to give help, but with no deep fondness for your work ? French Tourist 21:38, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coast Letter

Kudos on the letter I saw in The Coast a few weeks ago. Well-written and well-said. The Chief 05:17, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Halifax, Nova Scotia (former city)

People from other places seem to like linking to this page instead of Halifax Regional Municipality, Nova Scotia whenever possible, saying "when insert subject happened, it happened in the former city of Halifax (that is, peninsular Halifax)". What's your opinion? I mean, you don't see Tower of London linking to City of London (it links to London). Any thoughts on me possibly putting note or something on the Halifax disambiguation page suggesting a link to HRM instead of Halifax, Nova Scotia (former city)?

It's not that I don't think Halifax, Nova Scotia (former city) is useful, I just think that when someone clicks on a link that says "Halifax", they should probably see something more than the neighbourhoods on the peninsula. Plus the HRM page links to it in it's history section.

cheers, Ouuplas 02:26, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Er, Tower of London was a bad example, but I think you'll get what I mean anyway.

Heh, at first I thought naming it "History of the former city of Halifax" would be a little extreme, but I guess it would eliminate the problem. I'm all for it. I wish the city would rename HRM to something simpler like "Greater Halifax", or better yet, "Halifax". Ouuplas 04:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User Box for the Wikiproject Nova Scotia

It's at the bottom of the Wikiproject Nova Scotia talk page. I'd turn it into a template but I don't know how. Cheers. OldCommentator--OldCommentator 14:54, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings From An Old Friend

Hey Waye, nice to see you around Wikipedia. I'll join the Nova Scotia project too; I see you've been busy. CraigBurley 17:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Míkmaq

Waye, should I proceed and move the three relevant articles to Míkmaq, Míkmaq language, and Míkmaq hieroglyphic writing? Or should we have a formal proposal? Unfortunately I suspect that such a "vote" will end up confirming the confusing Mi'kmaq/Mi’kmaq/Mi´kmaq because of relative frequency of the fallback representation, since many Wikipedians think that quantity trumps quality. What do you think? Evertype 08:54, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Have you time to look into this yet? Cheers, -- Evertype·✆ 08:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

There are two questions I guess. One is for the ethnonym: Micmac or Mikmaq? The other is orthography: Míkmaq or Mi'kmaq? I get the impression from you and Chris that we should use the official form (with accent). -- Evertype·✆ 09:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Waye, the article is currently at Mi'kmaq where it belongs. That is the correct spelling and there is nothing wrong with it and no reason to "fix" it. The whole issue over what the apostrophe looks like is a total non-issue, there is no practical or foreseeable problem caused by it being at Mi'kmaq. I have pointed this out repeatedly and many people have pointed out that Mi'kmaq is the most common and correct variant used both by Mi'kmaqs and others in Canada, but all this has fallen on Evertype's deaf ears as he is convinced that nothing will be acceptable short of convincing everyone that it should be moved to "Míkmaq" (note the wierd looking accent over the i instead of an apostrophe.) He moved it once after everyone already told him that Mi'kmaq is the most common, I moved it back and asked him not to move it without due process, but I think he is still trying to get around it somehow. Even though almost nobody but him ever actually uses this form. It's too bad more Mi'kmaw aren't online or into computers to voice an opinion on this. If he wants to use the accents on other Mi'kmewey words, it is not such a big deal, but the name of The People is and always has been Mi'kmaq (with the apostrophe). ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 01:24, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

"Everyone" did not tell me anything, Codex. And will you please kerb your anger? -- Evertype·✆ 12:32, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ink!

Hey Waye - saw the bit on you in the latest Halifax! magazine. --RobHutten 02:28, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

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